Putting it all together...spoilers

Started by Chiki Mina126 pages

Will is just angry at the fact that Jack is trying to mess with his girl 😉 lol.

Will is in no one side, IMO. He is using both EITC and Jack with his crew to reach his father and get Davy's heart. But that doesn't mean he's evil. He doesn't trust anyone but himself at this point, so to beat a pirate he has to become a pirate.

Will wants to see Elizabeth happy in whatever decision she makes. And seeing her crying at Tia's hut really softens Will's expression. Seeing her like that hurts him. He only wants her to be happy.

No, Will isn't evil. 😉 And I don't think it's entirely true that he is on no one's side...when he discovers which side is "right" (has anyone noticed that Will and Norrington's stories are very similar?), Will will throw himself body and soul into the fight to defend those who need it.

"jackismyboo, if the writers said that Will is being noble...then that's what he is being. I hate to say this, but the writers know more about these characters than even we do. Will has his flaws, yes, but he is not some evil bastard out to wreck Elizabeth and Jack's happy love."---Surreal

I would be that evil bastard! lol. I don't lose gracefully. I have to hand it to Will. The first time I saw the movie, I thought he was just trying to get some insight on why she was so upset, like, "does she just miss Jack or does she love Jack." But watching it at home, able to go back, he's proving his love for Liz, not wanting her to be unhappy. So Will got some brownie points in my book for that.
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Originally posted by Surreal_44

1. What is Will and Elizabeth's relationship like up until the final battle?

2. What is Jack and Elizabeth's relationship like up until the final battle?

Oh, and I had a thought about Will...do you think it would be possible for him to eventually find a woman who loved him and would help him to break the curse and be free from the Dutchman, or do you think he might be forced to forever sail the seas?

Ok, let me roll up my sleeves. This is seriously the best thing since sliced bread.

1.) Will and Elizabeth's relationship is understandably strained through out most of the events at World's End. Though Will finally figures out that Elizabeth's motivations in the famous J/E kiss were not necessarily out of love, events have already been set in motion to keep them apart. After Will confronts Elizabeth about what she did to Jack, she tells him that he can't trust her not to make decisions without him. Later, they all discover that Will has traded Jack to Beckett in order to gain control of the Pearl. Elizabeth is stung that he chose not to make her privvy to his plans. (It's from the script).
From that point on, it's hard to say what their relationship is like, but I would imagine that similar to DMC, the opportunity never presents itself for the two of them to be together and to hash out the logistics of what their relationship has become. Also, they're developing as individuals rather than as a couple. They've both got their own set of goals they want to accomplish. Will wants to free his father from Jones, and I'm going to guess that Elizabeth wants vengeance against Beckett for the death of her father as well as motivating her men as a captain. The only time they're probably together is during the final battle sequence where Will asks Elizabeth to marry him again. Also, though Will knows that the kiss was not necessarily about Elizabeth's love for Jack, when he confronts her, she never answers his question about whether or not she does. This will be hanging over their heads, and more than likely, will be what motivates Will to propose again.

2.) Jack and Elizabeth's relationship is a bit more of a mystery simply because there isn't as much about it in the scripts. It's strained because he'll be angry with her about what she did to him, and she's still not necessarily sure about why she did what she did. Still, underneath it all, in the first script, Jack is able to forgive Elizabeth for what she did and admire her all the more. In the scripts, it seems as though she's attempting to push him away even though she may still be attracted to him. I don't want to speculate when I don't have anything to back it up at this point.

3.) Is there a girl out there for Will Turner other than Elizabeth?

It would be great if there was, and if that story was in the fourth film. I'd love to see it! I don't think he'll be forced to sail the seas forever, though who's to say that by the end of the film, that won't be what Will wants?

Mmm..Brownies 🙂

Will isn't evil. And I doubt he will become evil. Who are the real heroes in this movie anyways? If everyone betrays eachother lol.

I don't have anything to add, just wanted to say, very well put Savvy clapping

OMG Misty! Please don't leave so long. I miss you so much!

I won't leave for another 30 minutes..I miss you to 😄 I don't work tonight but I have to go to the airport to get my parents, they are coming fOR VAC... I'm soo happy 😄

i i havent been on in a while, i have been busy but i watched the trailer and noticed that in every clip will was wearing a necklace and i couldnt see one on elizabeth. i thought she was suppose to become captain with that necklace or something? is it will now? maybe u have already answered this question, idk but i also noticed that i didnt see bootstrap in the trailer. all i saw was a glimps of someone who looks like they were rotting on the ship and growing things like they would normally do. do u think that was bootstap? cuz to me it actually looked like will but thats just my opinion. thx

omg ok so i dont know if u guys already know this but the prisoner i saw in the trailer, the one that looked all gross and bound to serve one hundred year at the mast and all that stuff. i paused it..... and it was jack! he was growing things and looked the a gross piece of coral! omg please tell me this might not be a bad thing?!

ya i think it is jack...from what ive heard its supposed to be the good side of jack when he is in pugatory...but i dont know...maybe im wrong... 😮 😄

wait can you explain that to me? wutdo u mean the good side of jack?

I'm not worried about that. I'm thinking it could be one of Jack's hallucinations. Because according to TnT in the DVD commentary the said that the purgatory was a place where on goes to suffer all your fears for eternity. As we saw in DMC Jack was running away from DJ because he didn't want serve him. So I'm betting it might be hallucinations of one of his many fears..

Originally posted by mss_mira
wait can you explain that to me? wutdo u mean the good side of jack?

well supposedly, from what ive heard, you go insane in purgatory and he starts seeing the sides of him, like his good side, jealous side, ect. but i dont know

Originally posted by Mistypirate
I'm not worried about that. I'm thinking it could be one of Jack's hallucinations. Because according to TnT in the DVD commentary the said that the purgatory was a place where on goes to suffer all your fears for eternity. As we saw in DMC Jack was running away from DJ because he didn't want serve him. So I'm betting it might be hallucinations of one of his many fears..

thats what i was saying..exactly

ok good lol i was freaking out for a second

LOL don't freak out, I gotta go see you guys later..

bye misty

3.) Is there a girl out there for Will Turner other than Elizabeth?

It would be great if there was, and if that story was in the fourth film. I'd love to see it! I don't think he'll be forced to sail the seas forever, though who's to say that by the end of the film, that won't be what Will wants?-savvysparrow

I hope so. Will can tell how his love story got ruined by a the world's most notorius pirate. lol 😉

Seriously I don't think Will will think Jack that way. I think he admires him. I know I must be cheesy by saying this.

I doubt Will's immoratlity will last forever. Even though he won't be exactly alone since he's going to be reunited with his father.

ok so now..... wut about the necklace thing?