Originally posted by savvysparrow
I believe he's referring to the four who are closest to him. Elizabeth...well, we all know why. Will has tried to kill him on more than one occassion, I would argue. He's betrayed Jack by hitting him over the head with an oar, leaving him at the mercy of Barbossa and his crew in the first film. He threatens to kill Jack in DMC after Jack refuses to allow him to stab the heart. He says: "I keep the promises I make Jack. I intend to free my father, I hope you're there to see it." Barbossa has attempted to kill him more than once; he's marrooned him on an island twice and has stabbed him with the intent of killing him.
Tia Dalma cannot be trusted. I'm not sure where the notion came about that she's a guide or a wise leader. She may be, but she's not trustworthy. Jack says as much in DMC when he worries that she might stab him in the front, rather than in the back. Also, somewhere in the leaked script he taunts her about trying to kill him, and she says: Don't tell me you didn't enjoy it."That's my take on who's tried to kill him. I don't believe it was Ragetti or Pintel because while they're capable of a lot, they don't have the strength of mind to carry out the plan.
Touche!
wow Totally forgot about that Line..."I keep the promises I make Jack. I intend to free my father, I hope you're there to see it." ..... Should we pay attention to this line? I mean could it be refrencing Jack Dieing at the end of DMC? or do u think its a subtle refrence to something that happens to Jack in AWE that doesn't allow Jack to be there when Will sets his father free? Like perhaps...being a Barnicle Crusty Fish Face at the bottom of the sea? 😕
Originally posted by Chiki Mina
You're welcome, savvy 🙂 LOL Parlay!! 😉Now that I see that picture, there is a rumor or theory about a wedding that is not Will and Elizabeth.
yes and that question is put on the toy because Jack and Liz are forced into marriage....and they act like they hate each other....but yet there is a hint of feelings there!!!!
omg wat if the J/L rumors are true and the scene where Liz tells Jack "It would have never worked out between us" was Liz telling that the marriage would have never worked out! and then thats is why Will asks Liz to marry him....to see if she in fact does not have feelings for Jack!!!
I think im rambling but it makes sense in my head...🙁
Originally posted by PirateDiva
Touche!wow Totally forgot about that Line..."I keep the promises I make Jack. I intend to free my father[B], I hope you're there to see it."
..... Should we pay attention to this line? I mean could it be refrencing Jack Dieing at the end of DMC? or do u think its a subtle refrence to something that happens to Jack in AWE that doesn't allow Jack to be there when Will sets his father free? Like perhaps...being a Barnicle Crusty Fish Face at the bottom of the sea? 😕 [/B]
Mmmmm, I'm not entirely sure actually. I've always thought that the whole three way sword fight scene was foreshadowing of the events in AWE and given what I've heard recently, I still believe it. But I think that Will's line is more of a subtle warning that he's not be trifled with. Jack's treated him as though he's a naive puppy, and he's not going to put up with it any more. It marks the end of their tenuous friendship.
I guess.....but that line has just joined the list of lines that are knawing at me, and tell me there is something more than meets the eye!!! Kind of like the line that Jack tells Will in the Cannibal Island Scene, "SAVE ME"....Jack would never say SAVE ME to someone and sit there and wait for them to save him....So i'm still waiting to see if that line comes true....will WILL save JACK in AWE? i dont know we'll see!! 😄
Originally posted by PirateDiva
yes and that question is put on the toy because Jack and Liz are forced into marriage....and they act like they hate each other....but yet there is a hint of feelings there!!!!omg wat if the J/L rumors are true and the scene where Liz tells Jack "It would have never worked out between us" was Liz telling that the marriage would have never worked out! and then thats is why Will asks Liz to marry him....to see if she in fact does not have feelings for Jack!!!
I think im rambling but it makes sense in my head...🙁
That is what i have been thinking alot especially with the labrynth person in Fanfiction the nobles oblige story. now rumors and speculations, they do say third time the charm.
You are not rambling this is a good topic i wish and hope it is true.!!! It makes perfect sense to me too.
Originally posted by Chiki Mina
I really think that the barncale Jack is a dream sequence from Elizabeth. I mean she was dreaming in CotBP. *shrugs*
ya i like that theory we were discussing on the phone better....Were it's a dream that Liz has of Jack....i mean going into Davys Locker u dont know what to expect...so i think this is how Liz pictures him and has a dream, sorry, nightmare of how Jack looks like in DAVY's Locker!!!
Originally posted by jackismyboo
That is what i have been thinking alot especially with the labrynth person in Fanfiction the nobles oblige story. now rumors and speculations, they do say third time the charm.You are not rambling this is a good topic i wish and hope it is true.!!! It makes perfect sense to me too.
OMG i sooooo am reading that story too!!! Ya it was funny cause i have been reading it and today i heard that rumor of a Possible Jack /Liz wedding and i was like WTF?? im totally reading a fanfiction thats like that (Noblesse Oblige)....and sooo i totally recommended the story to Mina who told me about this rumor!!! CRAZY!!! I hope she puts more Chappies today!!! 😄
This is hillarious...we talked very little about an E/W ending.
Is just, this marriage came up and it's almost true. Actuallay. I think it is true.
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But this is the scene where supposedly there's a forced marriege. In order for Elizabeth to get into the Pirates meeting. She has to marry a pirate. Is like when a prince has to marry a princess to keep that royal blood going.
Obviousl, there's a dispute on probably on who Elizabeth is going to marry, dissagreement, or just plain ol' drunk.
Look closely..The crew is there. There's cottong and I believe Gibbs etc. But ther crew are there. It is very much possible for a marriage. Remember that in Jack's bandana they were discussing that it looks like a wedding ring. It was discussed over at World Player.
Those ball in chain has symbolism to it. And remember what Ted/Terry say about how J/E is always..mm in chains. hehe
Hey, just jumping in here for a moment....
I've had a rough day, so this may come out as being harsh, but that scene with Barbossa is not a forced marriage, but it is a love scene. 😄 And no, it doesn't involve Jack or Elizabeth. Sorry.
Also, the idea that Elizabeth has to marry someone to get into the pirate meeting is untrue and really just plain silly. She has the piece of 8, she doesn't need to be married or "of pirate blood" to get in. 😛
I will post up my J/E theory later, but how about focusing on W/E for just a bit? 😄
So, here are a few questions to get us started....
1. We see Davy, Beckett and Will on the beach squaring off with Jack, Elizabeth and Barbossa, yet later on Will seems to have switched sides and Barbossa takes a swipe at Jack. What happens?
2. Calypso has been released, and the final battle between the pirates and the EITC has begun. Will and Elizabeth are fighting on the deck of a ship. Will proposes. What does Elizabeth say?
3. Will and Elizabeth kiss in the midst of battle, seemingly forgetting the battle, the fact that they are being boarded by more enemies and that giant waves are breaking over the ship. Why do they choose that moment to kiss?
4. Will ends up stabbing the heart. Why? How?
5. How does Elizabeth respond to Will stabbing the heart?
6. What happens after the battle is over?
So feel free to use those questions, switch them up or change the order of them. Or make up some of your own. 😄 You gals are creative, I'm sure you can make W/E work if you try. 😄
Originally posted by savvysparrow
Wait, wait, wait. Where did this rumor about a forced marriage come from?
Before I respond to your post,savvy.
Surreal, a love scene of what? Between Barbossa and his balls in chains?
Savvy, that rumor was on a while ago. Its getting closer to the truth. If you want more info pm me, please.
I don't want to spread.
Originally posted by Ericadawn
She never thinks of the consequences, only the immediate results. Like "I can get James to get Will if I agree to marry him", but not "If I agree to marry James, I can't marry Will" or that she would hurt James by doing so.
exactly..she just toys with Men's emotions...poor James....but...yes, she did act very impulsively here too to save Will..she agrees to marry James to save Will, but not thinking that if she marries James she can't be with Will, but then she hurts James by using him that way. But he seems pretty okay with it when he bows out gracefully...he's a classy guy like that, that's what I love best about Norrington, well, until he ran off with the heart and went straight to Beckett....I'm not too happy with him now....hopefully he will redeem himself in AWE.
