Using real world physics and cience don't always work as this is comics, a lot of the time Thor is fighting other cl100/top tier people, the writer has a hammer shot be about as effective as a normal hit. I guess it could be explained as Thor holding back. he has after all mentioned several times that he does that when fighting mortals.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Using real world physics and cience don't always work as this is comics, a lot of the time Thor is fighting other cl100/top tier people, the writer has a hammer shot be about as effective as a normal hit. I guess it could be explained as Thor holding back. he has after all mentioned several times that he does that when fighting mortals.
It's not a matter of strength period. The hammer adds to the dmg caused by the strike or the blow. It's indestructible, it's enchanted, and it wieghs a hell of a lot. Adding all that in in combination of Thor's strength is what makes it hurt like a son of a *****. It's unfair to try and use any feats performed with it as a feat to support thor being superior to anyone in strength. Let alone Diana. I want to see what he's done with his fist. Or what's lifted. those are strength feats.
Not taking sides here...but
I would love to see these discussions in the wolvie thread.....so strength does not matter when cutting or piercing with a sword and such lol
Thors hammer does add to his damage and striking power...no discussion should be had on this...i am surprised to see any qualms about it
I have run thousands of roleplaying games and such for 20 - 30 years....in marvel saga's game thors hammer is +7 his strength is 19 he hits for 26
example- thor with steel pipe is +1 plus strength 19 he hits for 20
thor with fist hits for 19
BTW wolvies adamantium claws are +5.
Regular uru is +3 or +4 without enchantments(depending on said weapon)
Thors hammer is +7
Lets say to destroy a planet thor would need a score of 25 he would not destroy it with his hands...with the hammer he would since his score would be 26
This is not using cards and trump to add to the feat which can be done with or without the hammer....but its a tell tale sign that the hammer does increase his damage output and magical enchantments do add to it
Maybe i came into the thread and i am missing somthing(alot of pages have gone by since i was interested)
Originally posted by Silent Master
First of all, the sword being talked about is a magical sword that is sharp enough to shave electrons off atoms.Second, we are only saying that just being magical doesn't add to it's striking ability.
The fact that they actually said that it could "shave electrons off atoms" proves just how ridiculous DC can be at times 😄
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's not a matter of strength period. The hammer adds to the dmg caused by the strike or the blow. It's indestructible, it's enchanted, and it wieghs a hell of a lot. Adding all that in in combination of Thor's strength is what makes it hurt like a son of a *****. It's unfair to try and use any feats performed with it as a feat to support thor being superior to anyone in strength. Let alone Diana. I want to see what he's done with his fist. Or what's lifted. those are strength feats.
So your saying Captain America could perform the the same feats?
It's a mechanical advantage. Give him an adamantium hammer in the same mold, and he'd duplicate any feat he's previously performed.
How do you know how much Mjolnir weighs?
He's closed a dimensional rift with his fist, he caused enough pressure from an arm wrestling match to throw the planet out of orbit, and he lifted the midgard serpent whom happened to be crushing the planet under it's weight. All >> Diana's feats. Include his feats with Mjolnir and he >>>>. Diana's feats.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Who says he's right? Physics professors will tell you that The hammer does allow for a harder hit. Even if Thor's fist were made of the same material as the hammer, it would still hit harder becuz of the swing of the hammer. Adding in that the hammer is harder than thor's fist, and that it's magically charged, i would be correct. Any feat performed with the hammer is not a strength feat alone.
Are you dim? I already said that the hammer adds a sheer mechanical advantage.
You're arguing that it MYSTICALLY amplifies the power of his attacks.
Originally posted by starlock
Not taking sides here...butI would love to see these discussions in the wolvie thread.....so strength does not matter when cutting or piercing with a sword and such lol
Thors hammer does add to his damage and striking power...no discussion should be had on this...i am surprised to see any qualms about it
I have run thousands of roleplaying games and such for 20 - 30 years....in marvel saga's game thors hammer is +7 his strength is 19 he hits for 26
example- thor with steel pipe is +1 plus strength 19 he hits for 20
thor with fist hits for 19BTW wolvies adamantium claws are +5.
Regular uru is +3 or +4 without enchantments(depending on said weapon)
Thors hammer is +7Lets say to destroy a planet thor would need a score of 25 he would not destroy it with his hands...with the hammer he would since his score would be 26
This is not using cards and trump to add to the feat which can be done with or without the hammer....but its a tell tale sign that the hammer does increase his damage output and magical enchantments do add to it
Maybe i came into the thread and i am missing somthing(alot of pages have gone by since i was interested)
Good thing role playing games mean...well..
Absolutely nothing.
Originally posted by Dreamcatcher
So your saying Captain America could perform the the same feats?It's a mechanical advantage. Give him an adamantium hammer in the same mold, and he'd duplicate any feat he's previously performed.
How do you know how much Mjolnir weighs?
He's closed a dimensional rift with his fist, he caused enough pressure from an arm wrestling match to throw the planet out of orbit, and he lifted the midgard serpent whom happened to be crushing the planet under it's weight. All >> Diana's feats. Include his feats with Mjolnir and he >>>>. Diana's feats.
Subjective. The Midgard Serpent didn't weight nearly as much as the earth. Not even a third. IT would have knocked the planet out of orbit. ANd Thor never knocked the planet out of orbit in an arm wrestling match. It was hyperbole. You can even tell in the way that the conversation was going on between the two commentators. The hammer is still a hammer, and it's still enchanted. The feats performed with it cannot count towards his strength. Period.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlso we only count ww's feats and disragrd thors impressive ones. this is something only u would try to pull.
Subjective. The Midgard Serpent didn't weight nearly as much as the earth. Not even a third. IT would have knocked the planet out of orbit. ANd Thor never knocked the planet out of orbit in an arm wrestling match. It was hyperbole. You can even tell in the way that the conversation was going on between the two commentators. The hammer is still a hammer, and it's still enchanted. The feats performed with it cannot count towards his strength. Period.
Originally posted by Soljer
Are you dim? I already said that the hammer adds a sheer mechanical advantage.You're arguing that it MYSTICALLY amplifies the power of his attacks.
Good thing role playing games mean...well..
Absolutely nothing.
When added to whatever skills are needed here.... it sure does mean somthing,especialy when i dont say ignorant statements
"You're arguing that it MYSTICALLY amplifies the power of his attacks."
The answer is yes without a doubt it does
It might mean nothing here.but at least i understand whats behind the comics for versus matches...i dont blindly make statments that say because its magical it does not do more damage...i wish more of this site had roleplaying experience,at least the site would improve alot
Regular Hammer does damage so would adamantium hammer
magic hammer does more damage..not that hard to understand
trying to say anything else is silly
Originally posted by starlock
When added to whatever skills are needed here.... it sure does mean somthing,especialy when i dont say ignorant statements"You're arguing that it MYSTICALLY amplifies the power of his attacks."
The answer is yes without a doubt it doesIt might mean nothing here.but at least i understand whats behind the comics for versus matches...i dont blindly make statments that say because its magical it does not do more damage...i wish more of this site had roleplaying experience,at least the site would improve alot
Regular Hammer does damage so would adamantium hammer
magic hammer does more damage..not that hard to understand
trying to say anything else is silly
Exactly. Or why else would Odin even enchant the thing if the first place if it didnt' add anything to Thor's battle output?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Exactly. Or why else would Odin even enchant the thing if the first place if it didnt' add anything to Thor's battle output?
Maybe so he could open/close dimensional portals, and transmute energy and matter? dur.
What you're arguing is that a Green Lantern's power ring makes him punch harder.....
Originally posted by Soljer
Maybe so he could open/close dimensional portals, and transmute energy and matter? dur.What you're arguing is that a Green Lantern's power ring makes him punch harder.....
No. don't be a dummy. The Ring is still connected to the arm. There is no Torch behind it. But if the ring puts a shield around the GL"s fist, then he certainly would hit harder. ANd if the Ring transmutes the fist into mystical armor, even harder still. Now imagine all of that being swung by a superstrong being. It's going to hit a hell of a lot harder than just a fist from a super strong being.