Storm vs Kitty Pride

Started by 2damnloud43 pages

Originally posted by phillipan
You cant assume storm can do something if she hasnt done it. You cant be sure that storm knows exactly whats needed to magnetize something.

Wasn't it you that said storm works her powers instinctively and not scientifically?

Nope, that was Rutog98.

In my opinon it is intinctive as well as conscious(or as you said "scientifically"😉

She often describes exactly what she is doing and seeing through whatever medium she manipulates.

It can be very much conscious as well as instinctive.

At least that's my opinion

Would creating an electromagnet field be harder than magnetizing metal??

I'm assuming that the creation of large amounts of electricity would create a natural magnetic field(electromagnetic)

She's never magnetized metal, so I dunno.

It just doesn't seem it would be a chore for her.

Originally posted by phillipan
"Storm is also>>>>>>>>>Electro"

In what sense do you mean that? I hope you dont mean control over electricity because electro has been shown magnetising objects through electricity has sotmr ever done that?

It would still be a strin for storm to tap into the eaths electrical field.

LOL! Its no strain at all for Ororo to tap into the planet's electrical field. She's done it plenty of times.

Originally posted by Rutog98
LOL! Its no strain at all for Ororo to tap into the planet's electrical field. She's done it plenty of times.

Yea but constantly using it supercharge her body?

Can somebody post the scan where Storm scolds the Trion?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
doh

Overall? Yea, of course.

In terms of electrical control, etc... Electro wins. 😐

In terms of electrical control, Storm>Electro. Electrolysis, anyone? Creating clothing out of thin air, anyone?

Originally posted by Rutog98
Can somebody post the scan where Storm scolds the Trion?

If by scold you mean beat...
Its in this thread a few pages back. 😑

Originally posted by pr1983
lol, thats almost as ridiculous as batman surviving superman's assault during sacrifice...

No. The X-Men wear uniforms that protect them. A bullet should not even be able to get through Storm's outfit. That said, Hulk hurling that thing with unerring aim was PIS. He can't aim at the rates Storm can spin an object.

Originally posted by phillipan
If by scold you mean beat...
Its in this thread a few pages back. 😑

No. I mean where she tells them off after defeating them.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna

I don't see any reason why Electro can't just rain solar winds down onto the planet.

Because he doesn't have that power.

Originally posted by Rutog98
No. The X-Men wear uniforms that protect them. A bullet should not even be able to get through Storm's outfit. That said, Hulk hurling that thing with unerring aim was PIS. He can't aim at the rates Storm can spin an object.

their uniforms don't extend to their skull, and even if they did, its the hulk, no matter how much body armour you're wearing, if he throws anything even similar to a brick, the target would be killed...

and you're really going to argue PIS?

Originally posted by Rutog98
Because he doesn't have that power.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm goes above and beyond electro

Storm can MAKE PLASMA from NOTHING which shows she goes beyond controlling plasma, she can control the forces that produce plasma on a conscious level as well as control it.

She basically 'makes' her very own solar wind.

It's basically the same way she made the lightning in "empty space".

Continuity continuity.

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/2346/makingplasma6sh.jpg


This has nothing to do with the point.

Besides, making plasma is nothing. Seriously.
Plasmas.

Grape Plasma

Plasma is nothing but electrically charged, thus superheated, gas.

Why can't Electro control something based on his main element? Who knows. Maybe he can if you consider lightning creates plasma in the atmosphere. In that case, anyone who can discharge electricity is creating plasma.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
notice "" around controls electricity.

I don;t think he can do what storm can do.

She actually controls electricty by literally ploting the flow of electrons and SEEING the driving force behind the manifestation she creates.

She can see and entire storm in terms of electrical potential and as "energy" right down to the air and rain.

Shit's cool man🤘


This is where our visions take 90 degree angles from each other.

Question: How does Electro control electricity?

Ok, so the creators of the NEON sign and the lamp are equivalent to Storm controling SOLAR radiation??? OK. 😆

Electro's electrical powers don't seem to allow him to make and manipulate other energies that Ororo's do. She didn't neccesarily use the em or electrical FEILDS to manipulate the Solar winds, she used her control over the particles manually, hence her second site.

She manually makes lightning as X-treme issue 13 states. Watching the flow of electrons allows her to create lightning. using the same method allowed her to manipulate the Stellar energies and empty space in Uncanny 165 and 166 and how she Calmed that Storm created by Shaman.

Storm does it more manually. She once again states what she's doing-- "gather all the super-charged plasma you can, concentrate it, intensiy it's heat, compress it to a needle point.."

Storm's more intricate. Electro seems to only act as a conduit for a good amount of electrical energy.

Fire is plasma. I probably could "make plasma" given that fact. Is that really the same as a mutant controlling Solar winds, and basically making a solar wind(radiation)on earth out of thin air as seen in that scan???

For your ananlogy to work, you would have to prove to me that the level of energies Ororo created in the scan is on par with the Neon sign and that lamp and that the methods used are also the way Ororo''s powers work.

You keep glazing over that ver IMPORTANT part of her powerset.

It is how her powers work.

You just refuse to accept how her powers work when so CLEARLY stated😆

Electro's doesn't seem to work like that.

This is really desperate Swanky😆

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Ok, so the creators of the NEON sign and the lamp are equivalent to Storm controling SOLAR radiation??? OK. :laugh

Who is putting words in whose mouth now? That point was - making plasma on Earth is nothing. Besides, you're missing the main point.

Electro's electrical powers don't seem to allow him to make and manipulate other energies that Ororo's do. She didn't neccesarily use the em or electrical FEILDS to manipulate the Solar winds, she used her control over the particles manually, hence her second site.

If she was a telekinetic why would she be wasting her abilities on stupid crap like tornadoes and lightning?

She manually makes lightning as X-treme issue 13 states. Watching the flow of electrons allows her to create lightning. using the same method allowed her to manipulate the Stellar energies and empty space in Uncanny 165 and 166 and how she Calmed that Storm created by Shaman.

Storm does it more manually. She once again states what she's doing-- "gather all the super-charged plasma you can, concentrate it, intensiy it's heat, compress it to a needle point.."

Storm's more intricate. Electro seems to only act as a conduit for a good amount of electrical energy.


So you're saying he just kind of fires the electricity off his skin and with little or no aim? That's wrong.

Not only that, he's been able to spread into magnetism. But that's not the point.

Fire is plasma. I probably could "make plasma" given that fact. Is that really the same as a mutant controlling Solar winds, and basically making a solar wind(radiation)on earth out of thin air as seen in that scan???

Solar wind and solar radiation are two different things. And it's not like nuclear radiation, it's electromagnetic radiation. Both could logically be controlled by someone with even a small range of control over the EM spectrum.

For your ananlogy to work, you would have to prove to me that the level of energies Ororo created in the scan is on par with the Neon sign and that lamp and that the methods used are also the way Ororo''s powers work.

I don't even know what analogy you're talking about.

The entire point was you think Storm can magnetize objects but she hasn't so it can't be said she can. I think Electro should be able to control bands of electrical energy from space (solar winds), but he hasn't so it can't be said he can.

You keep glazing over that ver IMPORTANT part of her powerset.

This is a very ironic coming from the person who's missed almost every point I've made in this entire thread.

This is really desperate Swanky😆

Again, you make it sound like this is my last ditch efforts to twist this information to discredit my arch nemesis, a fictional black woman. Can't really be a last ditch effort if almost no effort is used now can it?

Originally posted by phillipan
And kind of unrelated but why do you mean when you keep saying godess? Goddess like Thor level or goddess like the monothiestic view of god? Because im pretty sure the writers dont mean the word godess to be taken literally but its a hyperbole like most things in comics are.

Hyperbole. And NOT literally, regardless as to what 2damn says.

Originally posted by Rutog98
No. The X-Men wear uniforms that protect them. A bullet should not even be able to get through Storm's outfit. That said, Hulk hurling that thing with unerring aim was PIS. He can't aim at the rates Storm can spin an object.

You are unbelievable. The Hulk could throw a car STRAIGHT through Storm's strongest winds. A chunk of cement is not going to be deterred by any winds of hers. 😐

Originally posted by pr1983
their uniforms don't extend to their skull, and even if they did, its the hulk, no matter how much body armour you're wearing, if he throws anything even similar to a brick, the target would be killed...

and you're really going to argue PIS?

Exactly.

Originally posted by Rutog98
That said, Hulk hurling that thing with unerring aim was PIS. He can't aim at the rates Storm can spin an object.

Apparently he can, because he did. Hulk catches jets and missiles with his hands. That's how abilities work.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
You are unbelievable. The Hulk could throw a car STRAIGHT through Storm's strongest winds. A chunk of cement is not going to be deterred by any winds of hers. 😐

You missed the point totally. My point was at the rate he was spinning, he should not have been able to take aim at her or focus on anything.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Apparently he can, because he did. Hulk catches jets and missiles with his hands. That's how abilities work.

No it's not. 😘

Originally posted by Rutog98
You missed the point totally. My point was at the rate he was spinning, he should not have been able to take aim at her or focus on anything.

Why's that? Are you trying to imply that Storm's winds were hurting and/or disorienting the Hulk? Because I think that's where we're disagreeing. All she was doing was picking him up and twirling him about. In a relatively rare moment, the Hulk showed some extreme calmness. He non-chalantly grabbed the chunk of cement and chucked it at Storm. I don't really see the problem here. 😬