Darth Bane Vs Darth Vader

Not sure I really understand you...

Are you saying Bane's lightning is better than Sidious'?

It's really not that hard to understand. Bane can conjure up controlled storms of force lightning. A lightsaber alone can't defend against such an attack, due to the fact that it is stiff and that it doesn't encompass a large enough area.

Lightning is channeled to the lightsaber. I doubt Count Dooku fired his lightning the exact width of a lightsaber at Kenobi in AOTC, or that Sidious did that to Mace in ROTS...

I'm still wondering how you figure precognition has nothing to do with the force... 😕

Lightning is channeled to the lightsaber.

What the fvck are you talking about? Lightning is magically attracted to the blade of a lightsaber? You clearly don't know what you're talking about, there's no proof whatsoever that lightning is simply channeled to a lightsaber.

I doubt Count Dooku fired his lightning the exact width of a lightsaber at Kenobi in AOTC, or that Sidious did that to Mace in ROTS...

What don't you get about it? Both Dooku and Sidious aimed their lightning at their opponents, and their opponents simply pushed their lightsaber in front of the lightning to defend against it. It's not that hard to comprehend. By your logic, lightning shouldn't have ever been considered so difficult to block seeing as it always just goes straight to a lightsaber. That logic's pretty whack, wouldn't you say?

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
I'm still wondering how you figure precognition has nothing to do with the force... 😕

Force mastery. Mastering the force doesn't have anything to do with precognition.

Remember what I was saying about attacking as many minor details in my posts as possible, btw? It's still annoying. Please stop.

asking a question is an annoyance? Then you my friend are in the wrong place. And yes, force mastery has alot to do with it. The more masterful you are, the more it can serve you. I wouldn't rank Zett's precog abilities on par with Vader's.

Both you and zephiel are full of shit, because it's not stated anywhere. If anything Vader is MORE powerful than Bane because he's half machine. Common sense eludes you yet again.

No allfg is correct, according to DSSB, Bane is physically the strongest. You can ask Advent or anyone else who has analyzed the sourcebook to support me. I will get scans up as soon as my damn machine begins to work.

EDIT: That is, Orbalisks included.

Originally posted by allfg
What the fvck are you talking about? Lightning is magically attracted to the blade of a lightsaber?
simply pushed their lightsaber in front of the lightning to defend against it.

Since you seem to know: Why does the lightning go to the lightsaber, then?

The crystal inside a lightsabers Blade draws and absorbs as much the energy that it can.

The blade dissipates it afterwards.

Where does it say that?

@Zephiel: Where in the DSSB does it say that? Because it's not under Bane's entry.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Where does it say that?

@Zephiel: Where in the DSSB does it say that? Because it's not under Bane's entry.

Check under their physical scores. Bane is canonically labelled as being stronger than Vader. It's represented numerically, but it was nonetheless designated as such in the DSSB, putting it above our word.

So, stats are your source?

I guess Sidious can't use force lightning, right?

Originally posted by jollyjim311
So, stats are your source?

I guess Sidious can't use force lightning, right?

What?! The DSSB explicitly states Sidious can use force lightning, it lists it clearly.

In stats? Mine is downloaded, and some of it is weird...

Originally posted by jollyjim311
In stats? Mine is downloaded, and some of it is weird...

Scroll down to force feats.

If it's not there, I'll phone up Gerard Butler and ask him to stab me in his Leonidas outfit.

Statistical interpretations of character abilities can still be considered canon.

Oh, I see it, I was thinking it was its own skill.

Oh wonderful, the main argument deals with stats, which aren't canon to begin with. Furthermore, Vader is a cyborg so there is no reason to believe a human is more powerful than a half machine. That's like me going to one of those canon star wars roleplaying games and seeing Exar Kun's stats trumping those of Luke or Sidious. Not a good argument at all.

Oh wonderful, the main argument deals with stats, which aren't canon to begin with.

The statistical interpretation of attributes are more reliable than our interpretations. It's sufficiently substantiated, by the very nature of the Orbalisks themselves.

Furthermore, Vader is a cyborg so there is no reason to believe a human is more powerful than a half machine.

So? Bane was being pumped with organisms that supplied him with darkside energies and extra adrenaline. There is no reason to assume Vader is stronger just because he has mechanical limbs.

That's like me going to one of those canon star wars roleplaying games and seeing Exar Kun's stats trumping those of Luke or Sidious. Not a good argument at all.

The DSSB doesn’t even have a statistical interpretation for Luke or DE Sidious, so I don’t see your point at all. Anything ivented by the player is non canon, and can't be used to support an argument. Items reviewed by Lucasarts, are by their own merit, better than our interpretations.