Darkseid vs The Silver surfer

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are really retarted. I said that Besides Odin and Dr. Strange, You dont 'see that many Top tier magics in Marvel. As a matter of fact, none that I can think of. Try reading what I said again. Slow wit. And again, I said you would be hard pressed to find a magic user in marvel who can match the phantom stranger. This is a lie how?

Their are many beings in Marvel that wield magic whim are above Dr. Strange and Odin, you simply made a baseless claim and are now facing the repercussions.

Just admit that you stated Dc magic was more powerful than Marvel magic. Your quotes from the thread blatantly show it.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Wrong, Dr. Strange wielded chaos magic, as well as Shuma gorath, up until the retcon.

So in other words it never existed, and his claims were bias and baseless.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Their are many beings in Marvel that wield magic whim are above Dr. Strange and Odin, you simply made a baseless claim and are now facing the repercussions.

Just admit that you stated Dc magic was more powerful than Marvel magic. Your quotes from the thread blatantly show it.

I'm not squirming shit. WHen did you pay my bills? are you my man? are you my parents or even a freind? to squirm would mean i gave a **** about you. I don't. ANd still, you would be hard pressed to find a magic wielder in marvel who trumps the phantom stranger. I stand on my comment. I also stand on my comment that magic in DC is stronger than in marvel. Lucifer is Magic. The Spectre is magic. PS is magic. Need I go on.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DS has shown the ability to create an shield that nothing short of a light particle could get thru. He can instantly drain abstract lvl beings of thier power. His Tp is far superior to anything the surfer could resist. DS has reality manip, superspeed of his own, high lvl durability, ( surfer certainly isn't one shotting DC). DS omegas have never missed a target in history barring the superman pis. Surfer is done here. DS was able to erase out the INfinity man. who would be equal to or superior to even the upgraded surfer. Dont' know for sure about surfers' new lvl yet.

TP would take time, Surfer would have all the time he requires to blast DS off his feet and onto the defensive. and could even be enough to just put him in yet another blackhole.

Surfer can become smaller than light, thus OE beam would be totally useless as would DS' shield. Surfer could incinerate DS from the inside.

Surfer can manipulate time, reality warping is moot when you can step out of any time frame.

Omega beams would not hit Surfer, he's got about a million ways to avoid any beams. you need to come up with some reason to believe that they would, as it's pretty easy to demonstrate Surfer's ability to mess with such things.

Surfer would likely win more often than DS, definitely far more often than Superman would against DS.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are so retarded. The guy said that I said dc's god was more powerful than Marvel's. That was a lie. You mixing up shit. get ur shit right before you say anything else. you aren't even arguing the right stuff.

I'm going to break this down for you seeing as how your squirming has made you more senseless than normal.

gods = Magic wielding beings

If DC magic > Marvel magic

It means DC gods > Marvel gods since the power the wield is of greater power.

Originally posted by janus77
shield is meaningless, Surfer would just create a blackhole and shunt DS and his shield into it. bfr.

TP would take time, Surfer would have all the time he requires to blast DS off his feet and onto the defensive. and could even be enough to just put him in yet another blackhole.

Surfer can become smaller than light, thus OE beam would be totally useless as would DS' shield. Surfer could incinerate DS from the inside.

Surfer can manipulate time, reality warping is moot when you can step out of any time frame.

Omega beams would not hit Surfer, he's got about a million ways to avoid any beams. you need to come up with some reason to believe that they would, as it's pretty easy to demonstrate Surfer's ability to mess with such things.

Surfer would likely win more often than DS, definitely far more often than Superman would against DS.

You are a fanboy incarnate. DS is a being who kills skyfathers for kicks and absorbs abstract beings powers. You realize that anything surfer can do, DS can do better.

If you want be technical Soajaboy, Wanda's retcon never exceeded anything beyond earth.

So her eliminating Chaos magic is as false as your accusations of Nvr lying are.

Unless of course you can find me scans of her affecting the abstracts.

Which of course you cannot.

She caused a rip in the omniverse, she wasnt destroying the verse by herself, but the potential rip she caused was.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
I'm going to break this down for you seeing as how your squirming has made you more senseless than normal.

gods = Magic wielding beings

If DC magic > Marvel magic

It means DC gods > Marvel gods since the power the wield is of greater power.

First of all. Dude. The dummy said that I said DC's GOD was greater than Marvel's GOD. which was a lie. I have always said they were equal. Then your retardedness comes in and says I'm lying. No i'm not. you ****ed up.you thought he was talking about something else. NOw just admit it and move on. Marvel's cosmic powers are stronger than DC's and I have said this too. I won't take it back. But that doesn't mean there aren't cosmic beings in DC who can match some of marvel's big and bad cosmics. I already stated that DR. strange and Odin were the only marvel magics I considered top tier. The vishanti are abstracts and don't count. Mephisto gets owned all the time. Thanks. Good night.

Originally posted by janus77
how does DS win?
what are the factors?

Souja, you are among the most biased people on this board. Hell, most of the damn board is Apocalypse biased, but you don't see me griping about it all the time. Your problem is, you obviously have never read the Darkseid respect thread or talked to Draco. He can prove that Nvr is right when he says Darkseid is over Odin. Over FP Galactus.....now that's reaching abit. But Darkseid is powerful enough to do pretty well against a decently fed Galactus.

I used to think Nvr was a DC biased fanboy. Then I talked to Draco and some others. Found out Nvr was pretty much right. Yeah, there's bias on here, but if you read the respect threads and talk to the posters who are semi-neutral and well informed, you'll see who the people who actually win these kind of fights are.

To say that Surfer has ANY chance in hell of beating Darkseid, is outright bias.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are a fanboy incarnate. DS is a being who kills skyfathers for kicks and absorbs abstract beings powers. You realize that anything surfer can do, DS can do better.

my pleasure is in that specific act, arguing and presenting a decent counterargument.

yours seems to be in hostility and over the top reactions.

I happen to be very good at ripping into silly people, but just 'cos you're probably an adolescent, I'll refrain.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'm not squirming shit. WHen did you pay my bills? are you my man? are you my parents or even a freind? to squirm would mean i gave a **** about you. I don't. ANd still, you would be hard pressed to find a magic wielder in marvel who trumps the phantom stranger. I stand on my comment. I also stand on my comment that magic in DC is stronger than in marvel. Lucifer is Magic. The Spectre is magic. PS is magic. Need I go on.

Actually Nvr your wrong.... again.

To squirm is to one twist about in a wriggling, snakelike motion or two, to feel or exhibit signs of humiliation or embarrassment. You are right now doing both, and it's showing.

I could go on a name a few Marvel characters who's power rivals that of the characters you mentioned, however that isn't what I intended to do. I posted only to call you out on another one of your bullshit claims.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
you ****ed up.

Originally posted by janus77
you realise you still haven't provided a reason for DS wining.
you may have a fondness for the character but, this is an argument. you've got to make a convincing case, using logic and reason as well as supporting facts.

my pleasure is in that specific act, arguing and presenting a decent counterargument.

yours seems to be in hostility and over the top reactions.

I happen to be very good at ripping into silly people, but just 'cos you're probably an adolescent, I'll refrain.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Souja, you are among the most biased people on this board. Hell, most of the damn board is Apocalypse biased, but you don't see me griping about it all the time. Your problem is, you obviously have never read the Darkseid respect thread or talked to Draco. He can prove that Nvr is right when he says Darkseid is over Odin. Over FP Galactus.....now that's reaching abit. But Darkseid is powerful enough to do pretty well against a decently fed Galactus.

I used to think Nvr was a DC biased fanboy. Then I talked to Draco and some others. Found out Nvr was pretty much right. Yeah, there's bias on here, but if you read the respect threads and talk to the posters who are semi-neutral and well informed, you'll see who the people who actually win these kind of fights are.

To say that Surfer has ANY chance in hell of beating Darkseid, is outright bias.

I'm biased how, because I refuse to join you in your fantasy beliefs about Apoc and his power?

No, it's not that were biased it's simply that Apoc isn't that powerful.

What am I griping about? I could care less what you think about Odin or his power, I simply posted to call Nvr out on another one of his lies.

Thats your problem now. You hold respect threads so high, without reading the context of the book. If you haven't noticed, respect threads leave out a lot of low and mid showings meaning to base all your beliefs off a respect thread is senseless.

that's Superman fighting Darkseid, not the same powersets as Surfer, different type of fight.

Surfer's only going to use his superior speed to counteract DS' TP attack or to outrun the OE... not to speedblitz him.

what's DS' 'battle strategy' for this match? what's he going to do, and how's he going to get at the Surfer (bearing in mind, he could fake out DS with a bunch of illusions).

Originally posted by janus77
that's Superman fighting Darkseid, not the same powersets as Surfer, different type of fight.

Surfer's only going to use his superior speed to counteract DS' TP attack or to outrun the OE... not to speedblitz him.

what's DS' 'battle strategy' for this match? what's he going to do, and how's he going to get at the Surfer (bearing in mind, he could fake out DS with a bunch of illusions).

DS > SS in speed

DS speed blitzed the entire Pre crsis JLA including Flash.

Originally posted by Board Walker
DS > SS in speed

DS speed blitzed the entire Pre crsis JLA including Flash.

You have scans of that?

examples? scans?

Yeah ill dig them up, their on this site.