Darkseid vs The Silver surfer

Originally posted by janus77
that's Superman fighting Darkseid, not the same powersets as Surfer, different type of fight.

Surfer's only going to use his superior speed to counteract DS' TP attack or to outrun the OE... not to speedblitz him.

what's DS' 'battle strategy' for this match? what's he going to do, and how's he going to get at the Surfer (bearing in mind, he could fake out DS with a bunch of illusions).

Originally posted by starking
Yeah they're not the same powersets, pc Supes is far more redicoulous than Surfer. Has Surfer sneezed out a solar system, no. Darkseid not only owned Supes, but billions of beings just as powerful. Plus Surfer has no way of avoiding the oe, it cant, blocked or avoided, it ERASES YOU FROM EXISTANCE(and if you bring those instances with post-crisis Supes than im going to hurl)

One correction, Daxamites are Superior to Superman. Did you see what they did to Element lads world? A planet full of Sersi plus lvl tranmutors Got Pwned all the way from Space.

Maybe if PC Superman sneezed on Darkseid or used some of that galaxy-spanning speed or simply punched Apokolips into dust, he could have beaten PC Darkseid....

Honestly. Superman just got stupid and lost his Plot Device Powerset when he fought Darkseid. There is no feat whatsoever in DS' list that puts him on the level of sneezing out solar systems.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Maybe if PC Superman sneezed on Darkseid or used some of that galaxy-spanning speed or simply punched Apokolips into dust, he could have beaten PC Darkseid....

Honestly. Superman just got stupid and lost his Plot Device Powerset when he fought Darkseid. There is no feat whatsoever in DS' list that puts him on the level of sneezing out solar systems.

..............Ok, the fact that you think that PC Supes could beat PC Darkseid proves you are a completely biased idiot. I have nothing more to say to you. ❌

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Maybe if PC Superman sneezed on Darkseid or used some of that galaxy-spanning speed or simply punched Apokolips into dust, he could have beaten PC Darkseid....

Honestly. Superman just got stupid and lost his Plot Device Powerset when he fought Darkseid. There is no feat whatsoever in DS' list that puts him on the level of sneezing out solar systems.

I don't think anyone else has a feat like sneezing out a Solar system.

-FO!!

PC Supes did beat PC Darkseid eventually in their fights, but usually had to rely on help and plot devices to do so.

..............Ok, the fact that you think that PC Supes could beat PC Darkseid proves you are a completely biased idiot. I have nothing more to say to you.

Why?

DS ever pulled a galaxy worth of planets?

Ever moved so fast that, even though a peson was talking to him, he could rush to another galaxy and then back again? Supes did it to Lois I believe.

And again, the super-sneeze is more destructive power than DS ever has had.

So, yeah, PC Supes has more strength feats, speed feats and power feats than DS... Nothing DS did comes close.

Still Pc Darkseid ***** slapped Pc Supes everytime they met.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Why?

DS ever pulled a galaxy worth of planets?

Ever moved so fast that, even though a peson was talking to him, he could rush to another galaxy and then back again? Supes did it to Lois I believe.

And again, the super-sneeze is more destructive power than DS ever has had.

So, yeah, PC Supes has more strength feats, speed feats and power feats than DS... Nothing DS did comes close.

Those are feats Darkseid has in spades over him.

Kinda like Surfer and Thanos - Surfer has shown us vastly more power and feats, but when he runs into Thanos, he gets slapped down.

This may help shed some more light on the Wanda/Marvel Magic thing, but then again this is senile Claremont:

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8301/w6el9.jpg

Anyway maybe HoM Wanda's bio will appear in this:

http://www.marvel.com/catalog/?book_id=6637

Superman is just a silly and boring character.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Superman is just a silly and boring character.

One can't say the same about the Surfer? Who can LITERALLY pull powers out of his ass? At least Superman has a somewhat defined power set. The power cosmic is akin to the power plot - it can do ANYTHING the writer feels like doing.

THAT seems more silly and boring, no?

Can someone please post these Darkseid scans of him blitzing the JLA and such?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Can someone please post these Darkseid scans of him blitzing the JLA and such?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DS blitzed the entire pre crisis JLA with just a projection of himself. He beat them down with one Hand literally. IT's in his respect thread.

Originally posted by Priest
lol, that wasent a blitz

Yeah it was. All of them have superspeed and reaction times. And he literally caught them all off guard. Not even the flash could move out of the way.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yeah it was. All of them have superspeed and reaction times. And he literally caught them all off guard. Not even the flash could move out of the way.

Originally posted by Priest
nah, thats not a speed blitz. batman catches superman off guard all the time, but we dont say that batman can speed blitz.

DS has superior Speed and reflexes. It's not even up for discussion. He speed blitzed High Father, He routinely knocked the shit out of a speeding Superman. Him and Orion used SuperSpeed in thier cosmic Martial Arts match. Not that He needs Super Speed. The OE always hit thier target ( jeph loeb idiot writing will not discount 40 plus years of Kirby History!!) and surfer is well beyond screwed.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DS has superior Speed and reflexes. It's not even up for discussion. He speed blitzed High Father, He routinely knocked the shit out of a speeding Superman. Him and Orion used SuperSpeed in thier cosmic Martial Arts match. Not that He needs Super Speed. The OE always hit thier target ( jeph loeb idiot writing will not discount 40 plus years of Kirby History!!) and surfer is well beyond screwed.

Originally posted by Priest
yeah i know surfer's skewed lol...
im just pointing out that Darkseid can't speed blitz, he hasent done it enough times to say he has super speed.
He may have Fast reaction speed, which i can agree with, but dosent have Super speed.
Thanos knocks around a speedign surfer on the regular, but that dosent meen he has superspped, he just has high reaction speed.

OR they are just too badassed to actually go around speed blitzing someone. Im sure galactus has superspeed as well. But he doesn't need to use it. for what?