Originally posted by 2damnloud
Why did she almost KILL him 3 times??? 😱You're obviously deluded if you think that 318 mph hour peak winds are going to support hunderds of millions of pounds of weight. Until you prove otherwise that it can, It still stands that storm's winds would have to be past the speed of sound. Notwithstanding the Sienna Blaze feat AND Straining Magneto's power almost killing him.
Going tho the NTH degree to deny and deny. It's total suspension of common sense. 😆
GOD, WHERE IS CLAREMONT?!?!? 🙁
Refresh my memory, which 3 times was this exactly I only recall 1 time with the blizzard.
While she's been at his mercy not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 times that I recall off the top of my head.
She braced the foundation with her winds, the foundation being braced is what supported the building. The building is still grounded as shown on panel.
So it is speculation then, that's hardly a surprise.
Originally posted by phillipan
2dam did you ever get a response from him when you supposedly sent him a list of questions about storm?
http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?p=1332879#post1332879
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Refresh my memory, which 3 times was this exactly I only recall 1 time with the blizzard.While she's been at his mercy not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 that I recall off the top of my head.
She braced the foundation with her winds, the foundation being braced is what supported the building. The building is still grounded as shown on panel.
She created a vacuum removing the air from his vicinity. She created that vortex where he only had seconds to act or he would expire because it was straining his powers and sucking the air from his lungs, and as you mentioned, the blizzard.
And again, to even "brace" hunderds of millions of pounds takes winds of extreme magnitude. Couple that with her winds having strained Magneto AND redirecting Sienna's Phoenix-like, ecosytem detroying Blast, and there is enough continuity there to assert her winds are above average strength.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakhttp://x-mencomics.com/xfan/forums/showthread.php?p=1332879#post1332879
Oh you found it 😊
Well, there it goes. I hope Claremont doesn't listen to the ONSLAUGHT of whinny, bitchy ass Storm detractors who like their comic hierarchy just the way it is 🙄
Come to find out, he's been posting there for YEARS and taking time out to answer questions from fans.
He's a great writer, but some of you people, man.
I can see it now.
"Oh my Claremont, I don't like the way you do this and that with Storm. I'm never going to buy a comic written by you again wah wah wah"🙄
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Come to find out, he's been posting there for YEARS and taking time out to answer questions from fans.He's a great writer, but some of you people, man.
I can see it now.
"Oh my Claremont, I don't like the way you do this and that with Storm. I'm never going to buy a comic written by you again wah wah wah"🙄
Great idea! I think ill go and post right now...
as if.
I dont care if he wants to start writing storm as uber, for now she isnt and it seems she wont ever be.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
She created a vacuum removing the air from his vicinity. She created that vortex where he only had seconds to act or he would expire because it was straining his powers and sucking the air from his lungs, and as you mentioned, the blizzard.And again, to even "brace" hunderds of millions of pounds takes winds of extreme magnitude. Couple that with her winds having strained Magneto AND redirecting Sienna's Phoenix-like, ecosytem detroying Blast, and there is enough continuity there to assert her winds are above average strength.
In that very same event he managed to act saving himself then he went and filtered lightning through Storm burning her.
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9074/magdefeatsstorm6ri.jpg
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4638/magbettercontroloflightingthen.jpg
He's also done this:
http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=story1page04newea8.jpg
And this:
http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=story1page14sx8.jpg
Then showed her up in this:
http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenunlimited3916gg7.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/5152/xmenunlimited3917vp7.jpg
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/9522/xmenunlimited3918lg1.jpg
Then there's that time where he stopped Storm from using her powers with the blood trick in Fatal Attractions. Hmm the scans not in the Magneto Respect Thread.
Not true, by bracing the foundation with her winds, the foundation is what does the majority of the work.
She had help with Sienna's Phoenix-like attack, Cyclops deflected the backlash which would have fried them. And again speculation on her winds.
Originally posted by phillipan
Great idea! I think ill go and post right now...
as if.I dont care if he wants to start writing storm as uber, for now she isnt and it seems she wont ever be.
And things aren't always what they.
It's just that I KNOW people can act like asses whne hings don't go their way.
Even in this thread, just because I KNOW that Magneto cannot beat storm if both were written at their full credit, people just wanted to start spamming the thread out.
What better way than to get it straight from the writer to put it all to rest. 😱
He'll probably write her down now because of these some stupid ass fans. 😘
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
In that very same event he managed to act saving himself then he went and filtered lightning through Storm burning her.http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9074/magdefeatsstorm6ri.jpg
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4638/magbettercontroloflightingthen.jpg
It clearly says she was not prepared so her body was not able to compensate for the energy surge.
It also shows how much<<<<<<<<<<<Storm is. It took ALL of his remaining strength to warp the magnetic fields within HER tempest whereas Storm can manipulate the Glactic core and follow up by manipulating empty space which did not take "all her remaining stregnth" from the first feat to accomplish.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
He's also done this:
http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=story1page04newea8.jpg
And she also trapped Magneto in a vortex. One good turn deserves another.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Then showed her up in this:
http://img261.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenunlimited3916gg7.jpg
http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/5152/xmenunlimited3917vp7.jpg
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/9522/xmenunlimited3918lg1.jpg
😘
I can't believe you would batantly LIE like that on the scans. I have that comic and Magneto had nothing to do with what was going on sides saving the people. Storm lost control of her powers because she was getting pissed off and wanted fight Magneto. She was initially trying to save the people who's car had gone over the edge of the bridge. Magneto nudged the car with his powers, Storm went and created a water spout. 😆
The second quote should be like this
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Then there's that time where he stopped Storm from using her powers with the blood trick in Fatal Attractions. Hmm the scans not in the Magneto Respect Thread.
🙄 There's no Blood rip in this fight. It shouldn't work anyway. Stars have more electomagnetic energy in their radiant energy than magneto can harness in a lifetime as well as the Storms Ororo harnesses and channels through herself hence it took ALL of Magneto's remaining strength to warp the field in the aforementioned tempest.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakNot true, by bracing the foundation with her winds, the foundation is what does the majority of the work.
She had help with Sienna's Phoenix-like attack, Cyclops deflected the backlash which would have fried them. And again speculation on her winds.
😘
Even going by your "logic" of the only one portion of the concrete pillars were destroyed, the majority of the weight(remember hunderds of millions of pounds) would tilt to one side OR the weight oof the building itself would totally incapacitate the remaining strutural support because it would not be evenly distibuted. The building is supended ABOVE Storm's head. 😆
Storm was the one who redirected it upward. Cyclops had nothing to do with the redirection process. PERIOD 😆
You're reaching and grasping 😮💨
Originally posted by 2damnloud
It clearly says she was not prepared so her body was not able to compensate for the energy surge.It also shows how much<<<<<<<<<<<Storm is. It took ALL of his remaining strength to warp the magnetic fields within HER tempest whereas Storm can manipulate the Glactic core and follow up by manipulating empty space which did not take "all her remaining stregnth" from the first feat to accomplish.
And she also trapped Magneto in a vortex. One goo turn deserves another.
Galactic Core feat took place in a different atmosphere, IIRC she said she felt stronger in that atmosphere. So your point is moot. I've seen Storm fail countless of times. Including the scan below involving the water spout.
You're forgetting that he has bested her more times then she has him. And this is not including his Fatal Attractions blood trick he pulled on her. Which HAS worked in the comics. Comic >> Your Speculation.
😘 I can't believe you would batantly LIE like that on the scans. I have that comic and Magneto had nothing to do with what was going on sides saving the people. Storm lost control of her powers because she was getting pissed off and wanted fight Magneto. She was initially trying to save the people who's car had gone over the edge of the bridge. Magneto nudged the car with his powers, Storm went and created a water spout. 😆
Lie excuse me? I said he showed her up, which he did. He saved the kids while she couldn't.
😘Even going by your "logic" of the only one portion of the concrete pillars were destroyed, the majority of the weight(remember hunderds of millions of tons) would tilt to one side OR the weight oof the building itself would totally incapacitate the remaining strutural support because it would not be evenly distibuted. The building is supended ABOVE Storm's head. 😆
One row of walls does not make up the majority of the foundation, as you can see the building was slowly breaking. Hence the reason why she let it go and it collapsed she then tossed some of the debris over Johnny.
And the building is attached to the ground.
BTW How long do you think she held that foundation?
Storm was the one who redirected it upward. Cyclops had nothing to do with the redirection process. PERIOD 😆You're reaching and grasping 😮💨 [/B]
He prevented the backlash from frying them the narrative said it was a joined effort. He helped. And again speculation on her wind speed.
You forgot to comment on this.
http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=story1page14sx8.jpg
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Galactic Core feat took place in a different atmosphere, IIRC she said she felt stronger in that atmosphere. So your point is moot. I've seen Storm fail countless of times. Including the scan below involving the water spout.
She said nothing of the kind. The Galactic Core manipulation>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Than the Tempest Magneto STRUGGLED to warp. Hell Shaman's Blizzard>>>>>>Than Magneto Struggling to manipulate the fields.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
You're forgetting that he has bested her more times then she has him. And this is not including his Fatal Attractions blood trick he pulled on her. Which HAS worked in the comics. Comic >> Your Speculation.
She almost KILLED him 3 times. He HURT her what, 5 times😆
Originally posted by ExodusCloakLie excuse me? I said he showed her up, which he did. He saved the kids while she couldn't.
Yea lie. 😆 I'll post the entire portion of the that story in context.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
[B]
One row of walls does not make up the majority of the foundation, as you can see the building was slowly breaking. Hence the reason why she let it go and it collapsed she then tossed some of the debris over Johnny.And the building is attached to the ground.
BTW How long do you think she held that foundation?
Even if one portion of the foundation was destroyed, which was the point(so the buiding would fall on Storm) The sheer weight of the sructure would be so unstready that it would fall almost instanttneously because of uneven distribution. The enetire structure is SUPENDED over Storm's head hence the huge GAP 😆
Storm could hav held it up ALL day. She showed no strain and actually was casully taunting Johnny and smirking.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
He prevented the backlash from frying them the narrative said it was a joined effort. He helped. And again speculation on her wind speed.
She redirected the FULL POWER. Cyc had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the redirection process at all. I already posted that scan a few pages back.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakYou forgot to comment on this.
http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=story1page14sx8.jpg
PIS Storm cannot be harmed by the effects of weather. Also, even in weakended state strom has fought Magneto for control of her lightning.
Storm>>>>>>>>>>>>>Magneto 💃
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Ororo's winds can clock in at past the speed of sound.She could deflect and throw back anything Magneto can throw at her.
Magneto is supposedly 15 times faster than a normal human. He has been "tagged" quite a few times, so I guess that doesn't really factor in.
Ah. Interesting.
While it's PIS for Storm to snuck up on because of her "I can see everything" sight, it's perfectly acceptable for Magneto to get tagged by slower opponents even with his 15 times faster reflexes.
Definitely interesting. Care to comment?
Originally posted by 2damnloud
She said nothing of the kind. The Galactic Core manipulation>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Than the Tempest Magneto STRUGGLED to warp. Hell Shaman's Blizzard>>>>>>Than Magneto Struggling to manipulate the fields.
I'm pretty sure she mentions a sudden surge of power right before she performs the Galactic Core feat. And in the next issue I'm also pretty sure it says something about the elements in the space atmosphere being greater then the elements of Earth.
She almost KILLED him 3 times. He HURT her what, 5 times😆
She almost killed him once and even then her blizzard powered him up. The other two times are equavilent to Mags hurting her 5+ times.
Yea lie. 😆 I'll post the entire portion of the that story in context.
Please do, also the part where he manages to block a bullet and she gets hit.
Even if one portion of the foundation was destroyed, which was the point(so the buiding would fall on Storm) The sheer weight of the sructure would be so unstready that it would fall almost instanttneously because of uneven distribution. The enetire structure is SUPENDED over Storm's head hence the huge GAP 😆
Not true seeing how only a row of walls were broken it would take a while for the building to fall especially with her holding the foundation together with her winds. It did eventually fall.
Storm could hav held it up ALL day. She showed no strain and actually was casully taunting Johnny and smirking.
Speculation.
She redirected the FULL POWER. Cyc had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the redirection process at all. I already posted that scan a few pages back.
I ask you does that make any sense? Full power includes the backlash energy. Cyke prevented any backlash from hitting them. It was a joined effort.
PIS Storm cannot be harmed by the effects of weather. Also, even in weakended state strom has fought Magneto for control of her lightning.Storm>>>>>>>>>>>>>Magneto 💃 [/B]
She has been hurt by her own lightning on numerous occasions apart from the many occasions above, there's also the Thor fight in CoC V2 #2 and then in UXM #445? The one where Sage sneaks into the mansion an gases everyone.(Most of the occasions if not all were written by Chris Claremont) Screaming PIS??
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Ah. Interesting.While it's PIS for Storm to snuck up on because of her "I can see everything" sight, it's perfectly acceptable for Magneto to get tagged by slower opponents even with his 15 times faster reflexes.
Definitely interesting. Care to comment?
Straw man.
I've never stated that storm's second sight means she's incapable of getting tagged. 🙄
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Ororo's winds can clock in at past the speed of sound.She could deflect and throw back anything Magneto can throw at her.
Magneto is supposedly 15 times faster than a normal human. He has been "tagged" quite a few times, so I guess that doesn't really factor in.
And furthermore. I know now that you're not being serious, but I enjoy debating anyway, so I will.
Hypothetical situation, 2damn. Storm already has her strongest winds (note: not pressure dome) blowing in the direction she's facing. Note: Not her "ZOMG! FULL-POTENTIAL COSMIC-LEVEL WINDS!", but the strongest wind she's created before, let's say the one used to SUPPORT the building.
Now, a high-powered sniper rifle with armor-piercing rounds is placed 50 feet in front of her (a little more than half the distance between home plate and first base), aimed at her heart. For argument's sake, let's say the the wind is not affecting the shooter, the gun, nor the bullet's trajectory nor speed UNTIL it reaches her wind.
Now, the sniper rifle fires, only 50 feet away. Storm can't do anything to protect her chest with her arms or anything, but can only rely on her winds. Will Storm's winds deflect/stop the bullet before it reaches her?
Originally posted by 2damnloud
Straw man.I've never stated that storm's second sight means she's incapable of getting tagged. 🙄
Uh...that's not what I said. Let's try reading it next time, shall we?
I do recall you saying that it's PIS that she is ever snuck up on, due to her ability to see the world and everything in it in the form of energy, that it "speaks" to her, or some BS like that. Now, with these abilities, she should not snuck up on, correct?
By the way, I love the way you "counter" arguments by throwing out a debating term and leaving the questions unanswered. Real classy. 👆
Originally posted by 2damnloud
PIS Storm cannot be harmed by the effects of weather. Also, even in weakended state strom has fought Magneto for control of her lightning.Storm>>>>>>>>>>>>>Magneto 💃
Hm. Storm cannot be harmed by the effects of weather?
You've got to be right. I mean, you've got the proof right here. Three times even:
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9074/magdefeatsstorm6ri.jpg
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4638/magbettercontroloflightingthen.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=story1page04newea8.jpg
http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=story1page14sx8.jpg
Storm sure showed Magneto there, lulling him into a false sense of security.
Storm's invulnerability to weather effects >>>>>>>> Magneto. 💃
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I'm pretty sure she mentions a sudden surge of power right before she performs the Galactic Core feat. And in the next issue I'm also pretty sure it says something about the elements in the space atmosphere being greater then the elements of Earth.
The enviroment in no way enhanced her ability to control it.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakShe almost killed him once and even then her blizzard powered him up. The other two times are equavilent to Mags hurting her 5+ times.
She suffocated him twice and he said the blizzard was so strong yet she held back. She had him EASY regardless of what happened next.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakPlease do, also the part where he manages to block a bullet and she gets hit.
She was in the process of trying to sve them and the idiot guy shot at her. Magneto was able to repel the bullets at is leisure. I guess now Storm's powers work faster than he can defelct bullets, 😱
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Not true seeing how only a row of walls were broken it would take a while for the building to fall especially with her holding the foundation together with her winds. It did eventually fall.
I thought she "supported" it?? You're switching your stance up as we go along because it's not panning out. Are you saying one row(speculation) of supports were destroyed, and the rest of the building was sufficiently supported by the remaining supports, enough so that the building takes a decent amount of time to collapse?? I ask, what was the actually point by Johnny of destroying only part of the foundation, leaving an ample of enough window of time for Storm to escape before it came down??
You're grasping and it's not panning out. 😘
Originally posted by ExodusCloakSpeculation.
It's truth. She was smirking. No strain at all "😄"
Originally posted by ExodusCloakI ask you does that make any sense? Full power includes the backlash energy. Cyke prevented any backlash from hitting them. It was a joined effort.
You're grasping again. 🙄
It was team effort. Storm directed the power with her WINDS and Cyc kept residual energies fro harming them.
Accompished by the combined might of Storm's electrically charged wind tunnel directing the young woman's POWER upward and Cyclops' optic Blast preventing any excess(from Strom's redirection feat) from harming the trio.
Cyclops blocked residual energy AFTER the redirection or while the redirecting was occuring.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
She has been hurt by her own lightning on numerous occasions apart from the many occasions up there's Thor in CoC V2 #2 and then in UXM #445? The one where Sage sneaks into the mansion an gases everyone.(Most of the occasions if not all were written by Chris Claremont) Screaming PIS??
I would say something, but I wont 😄
I'll just say ok.
