Storm vs Magneto pt 2

Started by Trolt68 pages

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Hm. Storm cannot be harmed by the effects of weather?

You've got to be right. I mean, you've got the proof right here. Three times even:

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9074/magdefeatsstorm6ri.jpg
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4638/magbettercontroloflightingthen.jpg

http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=story1page04newea8.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=story1page14sx8.jpg

Storm sure showed Magneto there, lulling him into a false sense of security.

Storm's invulnerability to weather effects >>>>>>>> Magneto. πŸ’ƒ

storm would have owned magneto if only she was better. damn you!!! lol

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Hm. Storm cannot be harmed by the effects of weather?

You've got to be right. I mean, you've got the proof right here. Three times even:

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9074/magdefeatsstorm6ri.jpg
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4638/magbettercontroloflightingthen.jpg

http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=story1page04newea8.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=story1page14sx8.jpg

Storm sure showed Magneto there, lulling him into a false sense of security.

Storm's invulnerability to weather effects >>>>>>>> Magneto. πŸ’ƒ

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Originally posted by Trolt
storm would have owned magneto if only she was better. damn you!!! lol

Oh yea, he hurt her so bad.πŸ™„

She's never been on the brink of death from his attacks. HE on the other hand 😎

Originally posted by 2damnloud
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P.S.--Another dazzling display of truly unequaled debating skills! πŸ‘†

Originally posted by 2damnloud
The enviroment in no way enhanced her ability to control it.

It made her stronger capable of handling more powerful energies, hence the sudden surge of energy. Regardless of that she's in a different atmosphere which has shown to make her stronger. On Earth her showings differ.

She suffocated him twice and he said the blizzard was so strong yet she held back. She had him EASY regardless of what happened next.

And he vice-versa, in the 5+ other occasions. IRRC He almost killed her when he burned her with her own lightning. Nightcrawler had to save her.

She was in the process of trying to sve them and the idiot guy shot at her. Magneto was able to repel the bullets at is leisure. I guess now Storm's powers work faster than he can defelct bullets, 😱

Well seeing how she got shot I wouldn't say so.

I thought she "supported" it?? You're switching your stance up as we go along because it's not panning out. Are you saying one row(speculation) of supports were destroyed, and the rest of the building was sufficiently supported by the remaining supports, enough so that the building takes a decent amount of time to collapse?? I ask, what was the actually point by Johnny of destroying only part of the foundation, leaving an ample of enough window of time for Storm to escape before it came down??

She supported it by bracing the foundations. That's still supporting it my stance is the same from the start. Destroying part of it acted as a distraction, he wasn't trying to kill her, hence his remarks at the end of the issue.
She braced the foundation for a short time span.

It was team effort. Storm directed the power with her WINDS and Cyc kept residual energies fro harming them.

He kept any backlash from harming them. That's still ateam effort. Backlashed Energy would be part of Sienna blazes blast. He helped.

Accompished by the combined might of Storm's electrically charged wind tunnel directing the young woman's POWER upward and Cyclops' optic Blast preventing any excess(from Strom's redirection feat) from harming the trio.

Cyclops blocked residual energy AFTER the redirection or while the redirecting was occuring.

It was a joined effort, from the scan both look like they performed it together.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And furthermore. I know now that you're not being serious, but I enjoy debating anyway, so I will.

Hypothetical situation, 2damn. Storm already has her strongest winds (note: not pressure dome) blowing in the direction she's facing. Note: Not her "ZOMG! FULL-POTENTIAL COSMIC-LEVEL WINDS!", but the strongest wind she's created before, let's say the one used to SUPPORT the building.

Now, a high-powered sniper rifle with armor-piercing rounds is placed 50 feet in front of her (a little more than half the distance between home plate and first base), aimed at her heart. For argument's sake, let's say the the wind is not affecting the shooter, the gun, nor the bullet's trajectory nor speed UNTIL it reaches her wind.

Now, the sniper rifle fires, only 50 feet away. Storm can't do anything to protect her chest with her arms or anything, but can only rely on her winds. Will Storm's winds deflect/stop the bullet before it reaches her?

Human torch even SAYS he's burning away the structural support for the ENTIRE BUILDING.

It's says it, right there.πŸ˜†

This whole building scenario is now dismissed. Anything else is pretty much reaching.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And furthermore. I know now that you're not being serious, but I enjoy debating anyway, so I will.

Hypothetical situation, 2damn. Storm already has her strongest winds (note: not pressure dome) blowing in the direction she's facing. Note: Not her "ZOMG! FULL-POTENTIAL COSMIC-LEVEL WINDS!", but the strongest wind she's created before, let's say the one used to SUPPORT the building.

Now, a high-powered sniper rifle with armor-piercing rounds is placed 50 feet in front of her (a little more than half the distance between home plate and first base), aimed at her heart. For argument's sake, let's say the the wind is not affecting the shooter, the gun, nor the bullet's trajectory nor speed UNTIL it reaches her wind.

Now, the sniper rifle fires, only 50 feet away. Storm can't do anything to protect her chest with her arms or anything, but can only rely on her winds. Will Storm's winds deflect/stop the bullet before it reaches her?

Yep, quite easily. A gun has been way closer than that to her and she's used winds to stop it. Not in that manner, but she did stop it.

You see, thought is faster than a bullet.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Yep, quite easily. A gun has been way closer than that to her and she's used winds to stop it. Not in that manner, but she did stop it.

You see, thought is faster than a bullet.

But I was under the impression that it took storm time to devlop a nasty gust of wind. πŸ˜•

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Yep, quite easily. A gun has been way closer than that to her and she's used winds to stop it. Not in that manner, but she did stop it.

You see, thought is faster than a bullet.

I didn't mention anything about thought being involved in this. She's ALREADY using her winds to attempt to "deflect" projectiles. No other brain activity is necessary nor stipulated in this hypothetical situation.

In all honesty though, the bullet would hit its target. 😐

But yea. Your answer just re-confirms my already-confirmed suspicions. Have fun, 2damn! πŸ˜†

By the by, you got a scan of this previous so-called bullet-stopping experience?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
You see, thought is faster than a bullet.

By the way. According to KMC rules, "It's said that the speed of thought is about 30 m/s." 30 meters per second.

Typical speed of a sniper bullet? Oh, this'll be good:

600+ m/s.

Hm. Correct me if I'm wrong...but isn't 600+ >>>>>>>>>>>> 30? πŸ˜•

Originally posted by Metalmanx
By the way. According to KMC rules, "It's said that the speed of thought is about 30 m/s." 30 meters per second.

Typical speed of a sniper bullet? Oh, this'll be good:

600+ m/s.

Hm. Correct me if I'm wrong...but isn't 600+ >>>>>>>>>>>> 30? πŸ˜•

but distance from brain to body and distance from bullet to target will be vastly different...so it also depends on how far the sniper is

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I didn't mention anything about thought being involved in this. She's ALREADY using her winds to attempt to "deflect" projectiles. No other brain activity is necessary nor stipulated in this hypothetical situation.

In all honesty though, the bullet would hit its target. 😐

But yea. Your answer just re-confirms my already-confirmed suspicions. Have fun, 2damn! πŸ˜†

By the by, you got a scan of this previous so-called bullet-stopping experience?

Oh so her powers are active?? 😱 Without question.

Yes I do. I have to find it.

Originally posted by masterbruce
but distance from brain to body and distance from bullet to target will be vastly different...so it also depends on how far the sniper is

50 feet. Slightly more than half the distance between first base and home plate.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
50 feet. Slightly more than half the distance between first base and home plate.

yeah, the bullet would hit before she could react

Originally posted by masterbruce
yeah, the bullet would hit before she could react

Actually, I stipulated it so her thought-speed is not a factor. Her winds are already going. I'm merely asking if the wind can stop the high-powered armor-piercing sniper bullet from reaching her from only 50 feet away.

The answer is yes. Yes the bullet would hit her.

Originally posted by masterbruce
yeah, the bullet would hit before she could react

Her powers are already active.

No the bullet would not hit her.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Actually, I stipulated it so her thought-speed is not a factor. Her winds are already going. I'm merely asking if the wind can stop the high-powered armor-piercing sniper bullet from reaching her from only 50 feet away.

The answer is yes. Yes the bullet would hit her.

at that distance, the wind would have no effect at all on the sniper bullet. Wind is just air, even the strongest wind wouldn't change the trajectory of the bullet in that short of a distance.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Human torch even SAYS he's burning away the structural support for the ENTIRE BUILDING.

It's says it, right there.πŸ˜†

This whole building scenario is now dismissed. Anything else is pretty much reaching.

"Especially when those walls provide the foundation support for the entire building".

Does not equate to:

"I'm burning away ALL the structural support for the entire building"

They provide foundation support for the entire building, which one row of walls do. He burnt threw one row of walls. It's not the entire foundation.

Re: Storm vs Magneto pt 2

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Both Bloodlusted with one stipulation. Magneto can't use the Blood-ripπŸ˜–hifty:

3 days prep.

Magneto can do his Science stuff and Ororo can meditate and get intune with nature more and more and more.

Fight takes place/starts out in The Roman Colosseum

Because I'm sometimes hit with nostalgia:

Magneto wins. Why?

"Magneto is a mutant with the superhuman power to shape and manipulate magnetic fields that exist naturally or artificially.

As the Master of Magnetism, he can lift, move, and alter objects (sometimes weighing many thousands of tons) through magnetic force (e.g., he can lift a Russian Typhoon-class submarine from the ocean floor, project metal at an unparalleled velocity and place tremendous pressure on metallic substances to liquefy and reshape them), manipulate the iron-enriched blood-flow to one's brain to induce aneurysms or unconsciousness, redirect the flow of blood through one's brain to alter thoughts and perceptions or blank a persons mind completely, levitate a person or control a person's actions by manipulating the iron in their bloodstream, remove the iron from the bloodstream entirely through a person's skin, control ferrous particles in the atmosphere, alter the Earth's magnetic field which extends into space as the magnetosphere, prodigiously increase his own strength to superhuman levels, erect electromagnetic force fields with a high degree of impenetrability, erase computer hard drives, and achieve a wide range of other effects. Magneto can use his magnetic powers to increase his physical strength up through Class 100 (the ability to lift over 100 tons).

Magneto has used his magnetic abilities to extract the Adamantium bonded to Wolverine's skeleton. Magneto has stopped armies, raised islands from ocean floors, moved mountains, and even threatened to devastate the world with apocalyptic floods and earthquakes. Magneto once blanketed the entire globe with a self-generated electro-magnetic pulse that caused widespread devastation.

Magneto usually protects himself with a personal forcefield that he can quickly expand to protect large areas. His forcefield has withstood the effects of multiple nuclear weapons, volcanic eruption, the depths of space and attacks from multiple Avengers or X-Men, including Phoenix, Thor, and even Galactus (during the Secret Wars).

Magneto is also capable of flight for very long distances and at varying speeds. He apparently has several means by which he achieves flight, one of which is by gliding along the planet's natural magnetic lines of force, another by simply creating an anti-gravity field about himself and propelling himself thusly.

By concentrating, Magneto can perceive the world around himself as patterns of magnetic and electrical energy. He can perceive the natural magnetic auras surrounding living beings.

Magneto can use his magnetic powers in more than one way simultaneously. He can completely assemble a complicated machine within seconds through his powers. Although Magneto often gestures when using his magnetic powers, he can utilize them fully even when standing totally still merely by concentrating.

Although Magneto's primary power is magnetism, he has some ability to project or manipulate any form of energy that is related to the electromagnetic spectrum. He can fire and absorb bolts of electricity and magnetic force, reverse lasers and other forms of radiation or energy, create enough intense heat as infrared radiation to destroy a metal door, and become invisible by deflecting visible light around his body. (He has also dispersed a "flame cage" created by the original Human Torch, but whether he had simply expanded his personal force field or employed something else entirely is unclear.) In Excalibur (vol. 3), Magneto uses his powers to create a traversable wormhole between two points in space.

His ability to wield his superhuman powers effectively is dependent upon his physical condition. When severely injured, his body is unable to withstand the strain of manipulating great amounts of magnetic forces. When his powers are not at their peak, he appears to have greater difficulty controlling forces other than magnetism.

A long-running mystery throughout the history of the X-Men is to what extent Magneto is capable of manipulating the psionic spectrum. A definitive explanation has never been given, though Magneto has been depicted reading minds (stated as a "scan of surface thought"πŸ˜‰ and proved fully capable of astral projection, a reasonably difficult psychic feat. He has been able to fight off telepathic intrusions and attacks from the likes of Psylocke, Jean Grey, and even Professor Xavier through sheer force of will. Magneto himself has been described as being the second most powerful mutant mind on earth, after only Professor Xavier himself, originally under the pen of his creator Stan Lee, then later under the stalwart but controversial pen of former X-Men artist John Byrne. Chris Claremont, long-time X-Men scribe and perhaps the definitive writer of Magneto, has claimed Magnus has no psychic talents at all, but instead is just of such an incredibly strong will, that he's able to resist psychic assaults, with varying degrees of difficulty. Later stories, such as during the Secret Wars, as portrayed by Jim Shooter, have claimed Magneto as a "latent" telepath rather than one fully aware and in control of his abilities (which seemed like an attempt to coincide with his original depiction, and Claremont's later take on the character).

Dr. Druid has claimed the only reason he could mentally enthrall Magneto was because he had taken him unawares, and claimed that it would only work for a limited amount of time, so formidable was Magnus' mind. A psychic screen that masked his presence from the other X-Men was quickly seen through by the Master of Magnetism, and Rogue, after absorbing Druid's power, mentioned the strength of Magneto's mental shields.

A mastermind, Magneto is a genius within various scientific fields. He is an expert on genetic manipulation and engineering, with knowledge far beyond that of contemporary science. He can mutate humans in order to give them superhuman powers, create adult clones of human beings, and then manipulate the genetic structures of these clones during their development. He has designed magnetically-powered skycraft and spacecraft, complex robots and computers, and magnetically-powered generators. He has created artificial living beings, space stations, and machines that nullify mutant powers within a radius of several miles."
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While it mentioned several different ways that Magneto wins, the EASIEST one with three days of prep is the underlined portion.

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