Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
She isn't even close to the most powerful in Earth...
You can't be serious anyway...
I disagree with you strongly here. How many people on Earth can summon the full power of millions of stars? How many people on Earth can redirect the full power of the world-destroying Sienna Blaze? How many people on Earth can single-handedly mend a tear between realities to prevent the two realities from crashing into each other and destroying each other? How many people on Earth can overpower 3 gods that are the sum of an entire dimension's past, present and future and the forces that compose and govern that dimension? How many people on Earth can control the forces that govern the universe on a potentially unlimited scale?
Originally posted by 2damnloud
If Storm was to go all 'cosmicy' in the next issue of FF, it would be perfectly viable as it would not contradict her powerset at all.Storm has manipulated cosmic energy atleast 5 times already.
She could do it again and be better and more proficient.
It's quite easy.
Exactly. The reason we don't see it all the time is because of the villains she has to fight. Even excluding these times she's gone cosmic, she's still much more powerful than someone like Magneto.
Originally posted by Rutog98
Yes. she does. Storm is potentially one of the most powerful beings in all creation...if not THE most powerful.
Ummm, well Galactus was created,PF was created, Eternity was created.
These are all created beings greater than Storm.
Just so you know Rutog98 you have no proof that Storm has the potential to defeat Galactus or the PF.
For god's sake, Galactus could just turn off her mutant gene. Galactus FTW. How is Storm gonna stop Galactus from doing that, with her strong winds???
PF is the source of all life in the universe. The beginning spark and then consumes it all. PF is what makes the universe go round and round again. Storm exists within that cycle and you also have not proven how Storm can overcome this. In a straight out fight PF can just suck the life out of her. PF has sucked the life of future life, life that is not currently existing. Can Storm do that?
Can Storm defeat Eternity???
Answer this Rutog98, If LT decided its time destroy the universe and set of a big bang, would Storm survive? I mean the PF would, and the cycle of sparking and consuming would continue.
See the problem is that, you claim that Storm can do much more that she has ever show to be able to do. Its all speculation on your side. Until concrete on panel proof is given to show Storm is on the level of Abstracts then all claims are bullshit.
Galactus, PF, and Eternity are all abstracts and you claim that a FP Storm can put up a fight against Big G or the PF. Nothing you have posted proves this.
Am I being repetative yes but I don't care. 😉
I am not saying Storm is not a strong mutant, just not as strong as you speculate her to be. Nothing absolutely nothing you poseted proves that Storm is or can become an Abstract.
FP Storm < Galactus < PF </=/> Eternity. (Until proven otherwise thorugh panel feats)
Originally posted by Rutog98
I disagree with you strongly here. How many people on Earth can summon the full power of millions of stars? How many people on Earth can redirect the full power of the world-destroying Sienna Blaze? How many people on Earth can single-handedly mend a tear between realities to prevent the two realities from crashing into each other and destroying each other? How many people on Earth can overpower 3 gods that are the sum of an entire dimension's past, present and future and the forces that compose and govern that dimension? How many people on Earth can control the forces that govern the universe on a potentially unlimited scale?
PC Supes man. He sneezes solar systems out of existance. He rubs his hands toguether and mends reality. If he sundips he becomes exponentially stronger.
Sentry comes to mind.
Dr Strange. or Dr Fate.
Superboy Prime.
Many more I care not to mention.
Originally posted by bean_machine
Ummm, well Galactus was created,PF was created, Eternity was created.These are all created beings greater than Storm.
Just so you know Rutog98 you have no proof that Storm has the potential to defeat Galactus or the PF.
For god's sake, Galactus could just turn off her mutant gene. Galactus FTW. How is Storm gonna stop Galactus from doing that, with her strong winds???
PF is the source of all life in the universe. The beginning spark and then consumes it all. PF is what makes the universe go round and round again. Storm exists within that cycle and you also have not proven how Storm can overcome this. In a straight out fight PF can just suck the life out of her. PF has sucked the life of future life, life that is not currently existing. Can Storm do that?
Can Storm defeat Eternity???
Answer this Rutog98, If LT decided its time destroy the universe and set of a big bang, would Storm survive? I mean the PF would, and the cycle of sparking and consuming would continue.
See the problem is that, you claim that Storm can do much more that she has ever show to be able to do. Its all speculation on your side. Until concrete on panel proof is given to show Storm is on the level of Abstracts then all claims are bullshit.
Galactus, PF, and Eternity are all abstracts and you claim that a FP Storm can put up a fight against Big G or the PF. Nothing you have posted proves this.
Am I being repetative yes but I don't care. 😉
I am not saying Storm is not a strong mutant, just not as strong as you speculate her to be. Nothing absolutely nothing you poseted proves that Storm is or can become an Abstract.
FP Storm < Galactus < PF </=/> Eternity. (Until proven otherwise thorugh panel feats)
Owned.
Originally posted by Rutog98Dr Strange.
I disagree with you strongly here. How many people on Earth can summon the full power of millions of stars? How many people on Earth can redirect the full power of the world-destroying Sienna Blaze? How many people on Earth can single-handedly mend a tear between realities to prevent the two realities from crashing into each other and destroying each other? How many people on Earth can overpower 3 gods that are the sum of an entire dimension's past, present and future and the forces that compose and govern that dimension? How many people on Earth can control the forces that govern the universe on a potentially unlimited scale?
Also, even Hulk has better feats of raw might then her.
Destroying the cosmos with a clap.
Plus, the difference is, these people can actually beat people.
Storm lost agaisnt Apoc... how pathetic.
Originally posted by Rutog98With no solid proof of course she is...
She did one thing, eh? The lady holds herself back. From the get go, she was able to control cosmic forces. Her first Uncanny issue was 94. By 99, we see her control the solar winds. Her powers and Phoenix's were equal. Both have the potential to wield unlimited power. Storm wins this.
The Surfer can react in a nanosecond's time.
And can switch off mutant genes. He's done it in the past.
A fight between Storm and the Surfer is a curbstomp in the Surfer's favor - even if only for the two statements above.
Even if it weren't for those - if we treat the Surfer's feats the way you treat Storm's, the Surfer would easily be Eternity's level.
Hell, we don't even have to go into bullshit off-panel interviews. The Surfer has been stated to have the potential to beat Galactus ON PANEL on more than a single occasion.
Originally posted by Soljer
The Surfer can react in a nanosecond's time.And can switch off mutant genes. He's done it in the past.
A fight between Storm and the Surfer is a curbstomp in the Surfer's favor - even if only for the two statements above.
Even if it weren't for those - if we treat the Surfer's feats the way you treat Storm's, the Surfer would easily be Eternity's level.
Hell, we don't even have to go into bullshit off-panel interviews. The Surfer has been stated to have the potential to beat Galactus ON PANEL on more than a single occasion.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
FFS CAN WE CUT THIS OUT NOW!?STORM IS A HIGH MID - TIER AT BEST.
ONE - TIME FEATS AND HYPERBOLE DO NOT A COSMIC MAKE.
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Originally posted by 2damnloud
If Storm was to go all 'cosmicy' in the next issue of FF, it would be perfectly viable as it would not contradict her powerset at all.Storm has manipulated cosmic energy atleast 5 times already.
She could do it again and be better and more proficient.
It's quite easy.
Originally posted by Rutog98
You have worked hard to try and show 2loud and me that Storm is a low level character.
Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I don't think anybody's trying to make you believe Storm is weak. At least I haven't. I've been trying to push that Storm has an "average", like all characters, where she resides by picking apart your high feats. The average is still very powerful.
So are you telling me that Storm is in the same category with Cyclops and Polaris? Is that where you are trying to put her?
