Storm vs Magneto pt 2

Started by celestialdemon68 pages

Originally posted by 2damnloud
She needs more SHOWINGS od the things she has ALREADY done.

She can't just do all that stuff then it's abandoned, which STILL doesn't negate the fact that she did it.

I do believe in my heart of hearts if she was written consistently with everyhting she's ever done in mind she would be>>>>>>Magneto, easily.

It took ALL his remaining strength to manipulates the electromagnetic field in the Storm SHE created.

Hell, give Ororo Superman-esque durability and that's its, she's trounces most. She doesn't even need strength.

Storm is a very hard character to write. Even the slightest of upgrades would make her look wierd on a team. I don't really care though😱

Coming to blows with Surfer is a step WAAAY up from Magneto. That should tell us something about her.

If Storm is written to go even be a challenge for Surfer, then he will have been robbed of the same respect you claim Storm to not have considering everything he's done. You want to take into account every single thing Storm has ever done (even if she's only done it once) as an ability of hers with her capable of repeating at will. You also factor in what MAY be abilities of hers based on her potential. What about Surfer? If you take into account everything he's ever done and what he can potentially do, his abilities FAR exceed hers.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
If Storm is written to go even be a challenge for Surfer, then he will have been robbed of the same respect you claim Storm to not have considering everything he's done. You want to take into account every single thing Storm has ever done (even if she's only done it once) as an ability of hers with her capable of repeating at will. You also factor in what MAY be abilities of hers based on her potential. What about Surfer? If you take into account everything he's ever done and what he can potentially do, his abilities FAR exceed hers.

i'm so glad we out law pis on this forum because you are so correct. If we did that with every one those with the most pis feats win. if we afford magneto the same kind of clout then mags would be >>>>>>>>> anything storm could muster up.

Originally posted by jasofisc
i'm so glad we out law pis on this forum because you are so correct. If we did that with every one those with the most pis feats win. if we afford magneto the same kind of clout then mags would be >>>>>>>>> anything storm could muster up.

Very true. On this forum, we are supposed to judge them based on their average showings, taking into account both their best and worst. And based on that, Magneto owns Storm's ass. Hell, I don't think Storm has EVER beaten Magneto in the several times they have fought.

Storm can be written to beat Surfer. She can be written to do what he can do, to a greater degree.

If Iceman can be given absurd powers going from freezing things to spreading his consiousness to throughout the entire planet's moisuture., then Storm can so what she ALREADY can do, only MORE.

Ice is made of water, water is abundant in one form or another throughout the world and in all organic matter, the coldest temperature is the THEORETICAL absolute zero. Iceman is now a God😆

Magneto:

Magnetism is a fundemental forces of the universe, Magneto can manipulate the hemoglobin in your blood even though it isn't magnetic, He can manipulate your diamgnetic field even though it is weak and wouldn't matter, He can manipulate gravity even though UFT is only a theory. *insert more bullshit*. He is now a god.

Also, Storm almost killed Magneto already so, they are equal in their capacity to kill each other.

Storm has more continuity and plausibility, not to necessarily be an ABSTRACT, but to wield power she has already been shown to wield. It would just be expanded to a greater degree, and finally infinitesimally. THAT IS ALL.😱

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm can be written to beat Surfer. She can be written to do what he can do, to a greater degree.

If Iceman can be given absurd powers going from freezing things to spreading his consiousness to throughout the entire planet's moisuture., then Storm can so what she ALREADY can do, only MORE.

Ice is made of water, water is abundant in one form or another throughout the world and in all organic matter, the coldest temperature is the THEORETICAL absolute zero. Iceman is now a God😆

Magneto:

Magnetism is a fundemental forces of the universe, Magneto can manipulate the hemoglobin in your blood even though it isn't magnetic, He can manipulate your diamgnetic field even though it is weak and wouldn't matter, He can manipulate gravity even though UFT is only a theory. *insert more bullshit*. He is now a god.

Also, Storm almost killed Magneto already so, they are equal in their capacity to kill each other.

Storm has more continuity and plausibility, not to necessarily be an ABSTRACT, but to wield power she has already been shown to wield. It would just be expanded to a greater degree, and finally infinitesimally. THAT IS ALL.😱

But Storm is a mutant with a mutant gene that Surfer has the ability to turn off and then Storm is nothing more than a Homo Sapien, not a goddess, or are we going to ignore Surfer's power to do that?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm can be written to beat Surfer. She can be written to do what he can do, to a greater degree.

Batman can be written to beat SS. That doesn't mean he should be able to. No, she can't do what he can do, much less to a greater degree. Has she ever flown faster than lightspeed? Flown through black holes? Destroyed a planet on a whim? Didn't think so

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Originally posted by 2damnloud
f Iceman can be given absurd powers going from freezing things to spreading his consiousness to throughout the entire planet's moisuture., then Storm can so what she ALREADY can do, only MORE.

Can she be given these abilities? Absolutely. Has she yet? No. That's why I don't claim she can do them yet. She has to show it first before it can be used as part of her powerset.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Magneto:

Magnetism is a fundemental forces of the universe, Magneto can manipulate the hemoglobin in your blood even though it isn't magnetic, He can manipulate your diamgnetic field even though it is weak and wouldn't matter, He can manipulate gravity even though UFT is only a theory. *insert more bullshit*. He is now a god.

You do realize that it is still unknown whether blood is affected by magnetism or not? But that doesn't matter. Magneto has always been able to use his power to affect blood in the comic books. Therefore, it must be accepted. Adam-X can burn blood. Just because that's unrealistic according to real-world physics, does that mean his whole character is PIS and should be discredited?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Also, Storm almost killed Magneto already so, they are equal in their capacity to kill each other.

So did Wolverine. Doesn't make them equal. How many times has Magneto beat down Storm? I guarantee you it's been far more times than Storm has beaten him.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm has more continuity and plausibility, not to necessarily be an ABSTRACT, but to wield power she has already been shown to wield. It would just be expanded to a greater degree, and finally infinitesimally. THAT IS ALL.😱

So, it's more plausible to expand the powers of a being who controls the weather into a universal force instead of a being who controls magnetism, which is already a universal force?

Originally posted by celestialdemon

So, it's more plausible to expand the powers of a being who controls the weather into a universal force instead of a being who controls magnetism, which is already a universal force?

And how does Ororo control said weather? 🙄

Magnetism doesn't exist without charged partcles.

Originally posted by bean_machine
But Storm is a mutant with a mutant gene that Surfer has the ability to turn off and then Storm is nothing more than a Homo Sapien, not a goddess, or are we going to ignore Surfer's power to do that?
Originally posted by bean_machine
But Storm is a mutant with a mutant gene that Surfer has the ability to turn off and then Storm is nothing more than a Homo Sapien, not a goddess, or are we going to ignore Surfer's power to do that?

very true and if this was a storm vs. silver surfer thread a person would have to be crazy to think she is on pare with him. Storm has never, ever ever on her own come close to beating a top tier character. she is human torch level no higher her feats prove this.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
And how does Ororo control said weather? 🙄

She controls it psionically. Your point?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Magnetism doesn't exist without charged partcles.

And lightning is a discharge of electricity. How is Storm able to generate lightning from her hands?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
She controls it psionically. Your point?

😖igh: 🙄 What is the "it" that she controls psionically?? In the Marvel universe, how is it said that she controls the weather??

Originally posted by 2damnloud
😖igh: 🙄 What is the "it" that she controls psionically?? In the Marvel universe, how is it said that she controls the weather??

You tell me. What does it say she directly controls in order to affect the weather?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
You tell me. What does it say she directly controls in order to affect the weather?

🙄 AAAAA.GGGAAAAAIN

You'll have to re-upload the image. I think the explanation is really vague in that scan anyway.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
She needs more SHOWINGS od the things she has ALREADY done.

She can't just do all that stuff then it's abandoned, which STILL doesn't negate the fact that she did it.


It actually happens quite a lot. Juggernaut had magic for a day and I don't think he's ever walked on nothing since his first appearance. Hulk used to be able to grab energy with his hands. I think Superman's telepathy is being phased out.

I do believe in my heart of hearts if she was written consistently with everyhting she's ever done in mind she would be>>>>>>Magneto, easily.

This is true. And it applies to everyone really. I mean... not the part about being better than Magneto. Every character would probably be higher up. Then they'd have to make the enemies stronger. Then the hero would get stronger. Then the enemies have to get stronger. Then you have Superman.

Hell, give Ororo Superman-esque durability and that's its, she's trounces most. She doesn't even need strength.

You can't tack "hell" to the beginning of that like it's nothing. Superman's one of the most durable characters in comic history. That's asking a lot.

Coming to blows with Surfer is a step WAAAY up from Magneto. That should tell us something about her.

Not necessarily. Magneto's frozen the Avengers, including Thor, using the blood trick and Thor himself can give Surfer a reasonable fight.

You don't even know if there's an actual fight yet.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
You'll have to re-upload the image. I think the explanation is really vague in that scan anyway.

Of course you would say that.






I guess it still looks like they're referring to em manipulation.

So basically, she's gone from a mutant who can control the weather to a mutant who can see and control the "weather patterns of life", whatever that is supposed to mean.

So, why is this extension of power so easy to accept for Storm but not for Magneto?

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/3257/magelectromagnetic3gu.jpg

Originally posted by celestialdemon
So basically, she's gone from a mutant who can control the weather to a mutant who can see and control the "weather patterns of life", whatever that is supposed to mean.

So, why is this extension of power so easy to accept for Storm but not for Magneto?

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/3257/magelectromagnetic3gu.jpg

pathetic blind fanboyism, that's why

Originally posted by celestialdemon
So basically, she's gone from a mutant who can control the weather to a mutant who can see and control the "weather patterns of life", whatever that is supposed to mean.

So, why is this extension of power so easy to accept for Storm but not for Magneto?

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/3257/magelectromagnetic3gu.jpg

What magneto can do with his Seocnd site is PISS POOR compared to what storm did.😆

She can see sub-atmoic particles that CREATE the fields. Even in vaccus empty space.

Magneto 10/10