Originally posted by capt it upIt's being put to a vote that he should take the currently remaining top tier spot. My vote is no, due to Elektra (and possibly others, Gorgon, Daredevil, Nick Fury maybe) being a better contender.
hasent it already been decided the black panther is a second tier fighter?
Also settle Gretels. Don't make poppa have to go out and cut a switch. 313
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's being put to a vote that he should take the currently remaining top tier spot. My vote is no, due to Elektra (and possibly others) being a better contender.Also settle Gretels. Don't make poppa have to go out and cut a switch. vin.
reguardless why is alf talking about wolverine when it clear logan is more skilled since he was put into the top tier with out question not to mention the feats alf are using have nothing to do with skill and BP loses in one.......
I don't think I will ever understand the way that kid debates........
Nighthrasher is fine where he is. Third tier is good for right now.
Catwoman should definitely move up.
I'm against both Robin and Gorgon moving up. Robin got thrashed by Shrike who is a Nightwing level opponent. And Gorgon is waay to vague to definitively put a guage on his skill level.
I'm for Elektra in the top spot. I also want Panther up there, but if there's only romm for one more than I gotta go with Elektra
Originally posted by marvelprince
Nighthrasher is fine where he is. Third tier is good for right now.Catwoman should definitely move up.
I'm against both Robin and Gorgon moving up. Robin got thrashed by Shrike who is a Nightwing level opponent. And Gorgon is waay to vague to definitively put a guage on his skill level.
I'm for Elektra in the top spot. I also want Panther up there, but if there's only romm for one more than I gotta go with Elektra
Proposed Changes (Votes For / Votes Against)
[Alfheim]:
Black Panther to take the remaining Marvel Top Tier spot: 2 (Alfheim, mp) / 3 (Soljer, capt and I)
[marvelprince]:
Elektra to the remaining Marvel Top Tier spot: 4 (capt, mp, Accel, jinzin) / 2 (Soljer, V)
[Devil Lance]:
Black Canary to replace Connor Hawke: 1 (DL) / 2 (mp, V)
[jinzin]:
Gorgon to Uber: 1 (jinzin) / 3 (V, capt, mp)
or Gorgon to the remaining Marvel Top Tier spot: 1 (jinzin) / 2 (capt, mp)
[Martian_Mind]
Catwoman to Fourth: 3 (MM, mp and I) / 0
Boom Boom to Third: 1 (MM) /
Cable to take remaining Marvel Top Tier spot: 1 (MM) / 1 (V)
[Nataku]
Ares to Second: 3 (V, Nat and I) / 1 (MM)
[me]
Midnight Sun to Second: 2 (V and I) / 0
Catwoman will be moved if she remains unopposed.
Following has been defeated:
Night Thrasher to Second Tier: 1 (Alfheim) / 6 (mp, V, Soljer, jinzin, capt and I)
Robin to Second: 1 (jinzin) / 5 (mp, Wally West, Soljer, V and I)
Couple of other possible additions, Huntress and Katana:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huntress_%28Helena_Bertinelli%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katana_%28comics%29
Originally posted by capt it up
He a peakhuman always has been……….I don’t know were you get your informantion, but you are wrong.How did he make wolverine look like an amatur wolverine won the encounter. Did you even read the whole fight? Wolverine was the one who was on top winning the fight until thing took his attention away. If you actaully read the fight you would know both wolverine and thing though and were certain wolverine had BP beat.
That has nothing to do with how skilled you are. Being a skilled fighter has no baring on your speed.
Countering ahs to do with skill dodging is most simply speed. You don’t understand , because you don’t listen.
OK spiderman would beat batman because he superior physically. Now if you gave batman and spiderman that same physicall stats then batman would thrash spiderman, because he is more skilled……….please tell me you understand now, because honestly your ignorance is just…………..ugggg
Simply deflexed it……….
You are so stupid some times. You are looking at this as if it a fight. Ok skill has nothing to do with your physicall attributes he has to do with how good a fighter you are and your knowledge of combat styles and so forth.
Just because some one is faster then you does not make them your superior in skill. You can be more skilled then some one and still lose simply because they are physically to much however that does not take away from the fact that you are more skilled.
Ddue I highly doubt you took boxing you know almost nothing about martial arts…….
Yes and no. You do not have to be taught to dodge it a reflex. There may be ways taught to you to dodge, but it not some thing that you need to be taught it a instinctive reaction…….
Really now then why do you keep saying speed equals skill……..
Yes which I have been trying to get throw you fing head for the last 4 posts……
You are an idiot if you can’t see it for your self. He was clearly surprised by BP speed which means he underestimated how fast BP was………
Actually BP was taking it like a realy fight. It does not matter how wolverine was taking it since BP would have been put in the position regardless if wolverine was fighting to kill or not. The only difference was wolverine would have killed him when he had him pinned or simply keep him pinned. Also wolverines not some cold blooded killer that kills other hero’s that was a crappy writing on wolverine character personality.
Not really. It can’t be at all. BP was fighting he was not holding back other then killing which he does not do………BP was not holding back anything other then how he always is.
You’re an idiot. First fight he lost. Second encounter wolverine simply underestimated him. BP did nothing to out class wolverine at all. All he did was surprise wolverine like he did in the first match which ended with BP pinned to the ground……..
I am sorry, but you have weird ways of viewing fights….
Its like this. I havnet read the whole fight all the information isnt there so i'll to take you're word for it. As for the rest its complete and utter shite and I cant be bothered.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Nighthrasher is fine where he is.
Hell I could make a case for NT, but would you bother reading it?
Originally posted by Alfheim
Its like this. I havnet read the whole fight all the information isnt there so i'll to take you're word for it. As for the rest its complete and utter shite and I cant be bothered.Hell I could make a case for NT, but would you bother reading it?
this is what liek the 10th time you have made assumption with out reading the whole issue.
the rest is utter crap? Dude do you even realize how wrong you have been?
you think speed some how effects some one skill level........
you also thing that by surpizing some one some how that makes you faster and more skilled......
Originally posted by Wally WestHeh I actually added him in ages ago... but then had a rethink and took him out... there's the incident of She-Hulk beating him...
Doh, pretty obvious cosmic is missing: Champion of the Universe
But I wouldn't object to his addition to that group if there's a consensus.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Heh I actually added him in ages ago... but then had a rethink and took him out... there's the incident of She-Hulk beating him...But I wouldn't object to his addition to that group if there's a consensus.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Hell I could make a case for NT, but would you bother reading it?
Actually I've seen quite an impressive respect thread for NT on Herochat and I am fan. I'm aware of his skills, but agaisnt others in the next category I don't think he cuts it. He goes to the top of his tier imo, but if you think you can convince me feel free. I'll read