Ranks for MAs

Started by srankmissingnin143 pages

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Grifter's been bugging me...

Does he deserve to be that low/high?

And I think Midnighter should be second... meh.

His Coda training makes him extremely skilled, he has gone h2h with Backlash and was winning when the fight ended... and Backlash has 3000 years of combat experience.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Who? 😕

Grendel is a series that was around for a bit, published by Comico and then Dark Horse. Hunter Rose was the assassin/crime boss Grendel. When he was 14 he came second in a worldwide fencing tournament (for adults) only because he was bored and didn't try in the final match. He's also the guy in my current sig.

Update.

Current Hierarchy [164]

Cosmic Tier: (Transcendent Martial Artists) [4]
Champion of the Universe, Gamora, Karate Kid, Thanos

Uber Tier: (Unearthly Martial Artists) [8]
Kirigi (DC), Mandarin, Mantis, Moondragon, O-Sensei, Ogun, Stick, Temugin

Top Tier: ("Greatest Martial Artists"😉 [18]
Batgirl (Cassandra Cain), Batman, Black Canary, Bronze Tiger, Captain America, Connor Hawke, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Iron Fist, Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, Shang Chi, Shen Kuei (The Cat), Snake-Eyes, Storm Shadow, Taskmaster, Wolverine

Second Tier: (Master Martial Artists) [49]
Adam Warlock, Agent X, Azrael, Backlash, Black Panther, Black Widow, Bullseye, Cable, Captain Mar-Vell, Cheshire, Crossbones, Daken, David Cain, Deadpool, Deathstroke, Donatello, Echo, Eric Killmonger, Gorgon (Tomi Shishido), Green Arrow, Grifter, Jason Blood, Judomaster (Hadley Jagger), Karnak, Lady Deathstrike, Leonardo, Merlyn (DC), Michaelangelo, Midnight Sun, Natas, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Prometheus, Puck, Ra's al Ghul, Raphael, Ravager, Red Hood, Red Skull, Silver Samurai, Steel Serpent, Stone, Talia al Ghul, Twelve Brothers in Silk, Wildcat (Ted Grant), Winter Soldier, Wonder Woman, Vandal Savage, X-23

Third Tier: (Highly Skilled Martial Artists) [49]
Ares, Arsenal, Bane, Beta Ray Bill, Black Bolt, Black Knight (Dane Whitman), Blade, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Colleen Wing, Damian Wayne, Doctor Mid-Nite, Doctor Strange, Domino, Donna Troy, Drax, Grendel (Hunter Rose), Hawkeye, Hercules, Huntress, Katana, Kingpin, Lady Vic, Matsu'o Tsurayaba, Midnighter, Mister America (Tex Thomson), Mister Terrific, Mockingbird, Moon Knight, Night Thrasher, Nightcrawler, Onyx, Psylocke, Punisher, The Question, Revanche, Robin (Tim Drake), Sabretooth, Shadowcat, Shatterstar, Shrike IV (Boone), Speedy (Mia Dearden), Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), Stacy X, Terry McGinnis, Thor, US Agent, V, Wild Child, Wong

Fourth Tier: (Trained Martial Artists) [27]
Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), Batwoman, Black Cat, Blink, Blue Devil, Boom Boom, Cannonball, Carol Danvers, Catwoman, Colossus, Cyclops, Falcon, Gambit, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Iron-Man, Jamie Madrox, Jubilee, Misty Knight, Mystique, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Superman, Tarantula, Thing, Zauriel

Accomplished Fighter: (Little formal training/Some Skill) [9]
Apocalypse, Beast, Grace Choi, Hulk, Invisible Woman, Luke Cage, Monet St. Croix, Spider-Man, Strong Guy

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Proposed Changes (Votes For / Votes Against)
Champion down to second tier?: 4? (me, MM, Trickster, Fake McCoy?) / 0

Additions: Jason Blood, Judomaster, Grendel, Merlyn (DC), Backlash, Cheshire
Opposition to their placement? N.B. for characters in 2nd tier if you want to propose a move up you'll need to suggest a character to supplant.
Changes:-
Daredevil (4): mp, jrodslam, Soljer, CasanoVa
-With my 5th vote, Daredevil takes the remaining Marvel top tier spot. As the list grows another spot will open up though. If people still feel another character deserves a spot, for now they can propose to have their chosen character replace another in the top tier from the respective company.
-There seems to be no opposition for Mantis to move down so the proposed change passes and she's moved down to Uber.
-Champion will be moved as soon as I can figure out where everyone wants to move him.

Comments:
-Could people who have voted on moving Champion down clarify to where they would move him?
-I'm not sure which version of White Tiger is being referred to, clarification?
-From what I can find on Judomaster, Bane killed him. 😬
-More proposed changes? Additions?

^ That's pretty fine list you've made up there.

IDK about the whole fighting styles, different situations call for different techniques. I wouldn't call them ineffective as much as they arn't useful for that certain scenario. Just because in scenario A, BJJ was more effective than lets say Tang Soo do doesn't mean it was or is ineffective, just wasn't appropiate for that time/scenario. That's just my .02 though...

Past that, comics do allow things to happen MA wise that WOULD never likely occur in real life.

hmm, looks nice

Does anything think Daken deserves his spot in top tier?

Marvel Ares for 2nd tier.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Marvel Ares for 2nd tier.

Co-sign

He knows how to handle his weapons.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
For the four people who voted Snake-eyes down a tier... I'm coming for you bastards. 😠

Damn me and my new HD with my lack of Joe comics. Must remember to get scans of awesomeness!

Originally posted by jrodslam
Oh.....And can i get a petition going for White Tiger in tier 2?

Mr. Sensitive to second tier.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Clarification of which version?
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Mr. Sensitive to second tier.
Heh, I could live with that.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Clarification of which version?

The new one. Niece to Iron Fist and part student to DD.

Originally posted by jrodslam
The new one. Niece to Iron Fist and part student to DD.

Hmm, not sure. Her skills are great no doubt, but should she really be considered seeing as how she draws her skills from the amulets?

Well........we let Prometheus in, didn't we? srug

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Heh, I could live with that.
Yeah, I was going through Doop's appearances, and wondered why we didn't have him.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Hmm, not sure. Her skills are great no doubt, but should she really be considered seeing as how she draws her skills from the amulets?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Well........we let Prometheus in, didn't we?

True.

Shes also suppose to carry it with her at all times. I think she should be allowed in. We have people here who didnt train to get all their ma prowess.

I would understand if she werent permitted though. I guess we'll have to wait for her to do something impressive without wearing the amulet.😬

Actually, I could probably make a case for Guy Smith to top tier, before someone like, say, Daredevil.

Were would drizzt, wulfgar and Bruenor go?

Mar-Vell, and Warlock to cosmic tier, or at least the one just below it.

Come on, the spot they're in right now is an insult to the character.

what? Niether one has shown top tier fighting skills let a lone cosmic unless im mistaken..........