Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Grifter's been bugging me...Does he deserve to be that low/high?
And I think Midnighter should be second... meh.
His Coda training makes him extremely skilled, he has gone h2h with Backlash and was winning when the fight ended... and Backlash has 3000 years of combat experience.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Who? 😕
Grendel is a series that was around for a bit, published by Comico and then Dark Horse. Hunter Rose was the assassin/crime boss Grendel. When he was 14 he came second in a worldwide fencing tournament (for adults) only because he was bored and didn't try in the final match. He's also the guy in my current sig.
Update.
Current Hierarchy [164]
Cosmic Tier: (Transcendent Martial Artists) [4]
Champion of the Universe, Gamora, Karate Kid, Thanos
Uber Tier: (Unearthly Martial Artists) [8]
Kirigi (DC), Mandarin, Mantis, Moondragon, O-Sensei, Ogun, Stick, Temugin
Top Tier: ("Greatest Martial Artists"😉 [18]
Batgirl (Cassandra Cain), Batman, Black Canary, Bronze Tiger, Captain America, Connor Hawke, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Iron Fist, Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, Shang Chi, Shen Kuei (The Cat), Snake-Eyes, Storm Shadow, Taskmaster, Wolverine
Second Tier: (Master Martial Artists) [49]
Adam Warlock, Agent X, Azrael, Backlash, Black Panther, Black Widow, Bullseye, Cable, Captain Mar-Vell, Cheshire, Crossbones, Daken, David Cain, Deadpool, Deathstroke, Donatello, Echo, Eric Killmonger, Gorgon (Tomi Shishido), Green Arrow, Grifter, Jason Blood, Judomaster (Hadley Jagger), Karnak, Lady Deathstrike, Leonardo, Merlyn (DC), Michaelangelo, Midnight Sun, Natas, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Prometheus, Puck, Ra's al Ghul, Raphael, Ravager, Red Hood, Red Skull, Silver Samurai, Steel Serpent, Stone, Talia al Ghul, Twelve Brothers in Silk, Wildcat (Ted Grant), Winter Soldier, Wonder Woman, Vandal Savage, X-23
Third Tier: (Highly Skilled Martial Artists) [49]
Ares, Arsenal, Bane, Beta Ray Bill, Black Bolt, Black Knight (Dane Whitman), Blade, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Colleen Wing, Damian Wayne, Doctor Mid-Nite, Doctor Strange, Domino, Donna Troy, Drax, Grendel (Hunter Rose), Hawkeye, Hercules, Huntress, Katana, Kingpin, Lady Vic, Matsu'o Tsurayaba, Midnighter, Mister America (Tex Thomson), Mister Terrific, Mockingbird, Moon Knight, Night Thrasher, Nightcrawler, Onyx, Psylocke, Punisher, The Question, Revanche, Robin (Tim Drake), Sabretooth, Shadowcat, Shatterstar, Shrike IV (Boone), Speedy (Mia Dearden), Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), Stacy X, Terry McGinnis, Thor, US Agent, V, Wild Child, Wong
Fourth Tier: (Trained Martial Artists) [27]
Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), Batwoman, Black Cat, Blink, Blue Devil, Boom Boom, Cannonball, Carol Danvers, Catwoman, Colossus, Cyclops, Falcon, Gambit, Hawkgirl, Hawkman, Iron-Man, Jamie Madrox, Jubilee, Misty Knight, Mystique, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Superman, Tarantula, Thing, Zauriel
Accomplished Fighter: (Little formal training/Some Skill) [9]
Apocalypse, Beast, Grace Choi, Hulk, Invisible Woman, Luke Cage, Monet St. Croix, Spider-Man, Strong Guy
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Proposed Changes (Votes For / Votes Against)
Champion down to second tier?: 4? (me, MM, Trickster, Fake McCoy?) / 0
Additions: Jason Blood, Judomaster, Grendel, Merlyn (DC), Backlash, Cheshire
Opposition to their placement? N.B. for characters in 2nd tier if you want to propose a move up you'll need to suggest a character to supplant.
Changes:-
Daredevil (4): mp, jrodslam, Soljer, CasanoVa
-With my 5th vote, Daredevil takes the remaining Marvel top tier spot. As the list grows another spot will open up though. If people still feel another character deserves a spot, for now they can propose to have their chosen character replace another in the top tier from the respective company.
-There seems to be no opposition for Mantis to move down so the proposed change passes and she's moved down to Uber.
-Champion will be moved as soon as I can figure out where everyone wants to move him.
Comments:
-Could people who have voted on moving Champion down clarify to where they would move him?
-I'm not sure which version of White Tiger is being referred to, clarification?
-From what I can find on Judomaster, Bane killed him. 😬
-More proposed changes? Additions?
^ That's pretty fine list you've made up there.
IDK about the whole fighting styles, different situations call for different techniques. I wouldn't call them ineffective as much as they arn't useful for that certain scenario. Just because in scenario A, BJJ was more effective than lets say Tang Soo do doesn't mean it was or is ineffective, just wasn't appropiate for that time/scenario. That's just my .02 though...
Past that, comics do allow things to happen MA wise that WOULD never likely occur in real life.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Hmm, not sure. Her skills are great no doubt, but should she really be considered seeing as how she draws her skills from the amulets?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Well........we let Prometheus in, didn't we?
True.
Shes also suppose to carry it with her at all times. I think she should be allowed in. We have people here who didnt train to get all their ma prowess.
I would understand if she werent permitted though. I guess we'll have to wait for her to do something impressive without wearing the amulet.😬