Ranks for MAs

Originally posted by Master-Borg
Logan looks in worse shape than Doop in the second fight, Logan can barely stand and has his arm draped across Doop's shoulder for support.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
really becuase he look beaten to me. I mean he on the ground with in eye completely hanging out. Then theres the fact the Logan in the next pannel is standing holding him by his arm in the air.

In the second fight, Logan's leaning on him for support... he's also leaning on the counter. It's clearly the intended effect. 😬

Originally posted by Battlehammer
...........are you serous? Logan is not being supported. There putting there arms around eachother to show they are friends............it clearly evident if you read the scans.

no, I've looked at the scans...it clearly shows Logan with one arm ON TOP of the counter and one arm ON TOP of Doop's shoulder...Logan's clearly using both for support

Originally posted by StylishSmurph
He's an amorphous blob who could look any shape or form he chooses. He looked better after being smacked by Mjolnir while depowered, so if he was beaten it's fairly PISy.

In the second fight, Logan's leaning on him for support... he's also leaning on the counter. It's clearly the intended effect. 😬

..................then if it pis then any fight between the two is useless since it not his skills, but his powers that get him through such events.

really, becauses from how I read it they were embracing eachother as friends.........

Originally posted by Master-Borg
no, I've looked at the scans...it clearly shows Logan with one arm ON TOP of the counter and one arm ON TOP of Doop's shoulder...Logan's clearly using both for support

.....youve never sat at a bar with one arm around some one and the other on the bar? because I have.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
.....youve never sat at a bar with one arm around some one and the other on the bar? because I have.

I don't think he's sitting...rather he's leaning on the counter and using Doop as support or he would prob be on the floor

In essence, Logan was knocked out, Doop rattled Logan's brain

In boxing, when you get hit hard in the head, it's hard to even stand...which is what happened to Logan

Originally posted by Master-Borg
I don't think he's sitting...rather he's leaning on the counter and using Doop as support or he would prob be on the floor

In essence, Logan was knocked out, Doop rattled Logan's brain

In boxing, when you get hit hard in the head, it's hard to even stand...which is what happened to Logan

false. Logan was talking and a lot. which means his brain was not rattle. Which means he was not KO or close to it.

your speculation was completely off.

a boxer who been hit very ahrd and can barely stand can not talk they make no senses and in no way can form sentences.

The Hulk has done pretty well, both against Wolverine and Thor, but that isn't necessarily indicative of top-tier skills.

Considering that Doop is also a 7 in both speed and strength, are we sure the showings he has against Logan and the Odinson are skill feats?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
false. Logan was talking and a lot. which means his brain was not rattle. Which means he was not KO or close to it.

your speculation was completely off.

a boxer who been hit very ahrd and can barely stand can not talk they make no senses and in no way can form sentences.

Different areas of the brain. Ask anyone that's been temporarily paralyzed - they'll still be able to answer.

Originally posted by Soljer
Different areas of the brain. Ask anyone that's been temporarily paralyzed - they'll still be able to answer.

true, but it rare and unlikly. He said boxer and most fo the time when a boxer can't stand after a fight he cna barly talk or form sentences that make any sense

Originally posted by Soljer
The Hulk has done pretty well, both against Wolverine and Thor, but that isn't necessarily indicative of top-tier skills.

Considering that Doop is also a 7 in both speed and strength, are we sure the showings he has against Logan and the Odinson are skill feats?

If any thing they hurt him. I mean given doops abilties he should own Logan.

Logan was not even using his claws and still doop did not win. meaning he not that skilled not even close to being 2nd tier.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
If any thing they hurt him. I mean given doops abilties he should own Logan.

Logan was not even using his claws and still doop did not win. meaning he not that skilled not even close to being 2nd tier.

False. Logan WAS using his claws. Look at the top panel on the third page...the sounds are SLICE and DICE.

sorry, but no claws were shown no blood from logans hands. it speculation on your part he used the claws which is very unlikly since it was a brawl not a life in death matter and ever time logan was shown on pannel he did not have his claws out.

dood you're so biased it's not even funny...well actually it is quite funny

anyways, at the bottom of this page, Logan's claws are CLEARLY OUT

it not bias I missed it. So fair enough Logan did use his claws. funny Logan did better when he dident use them lol

wow this is rather pethetic I was actaully mistaken and master bruce was correct............dam I must be slipping that never happen before.

also what does this have to do with doop being 2nd tier?

I mean given his abilities...........Logan stalemating him or what not would mean he be rather un skilled would he not?

Originally posted by Soljer
The Hulk has done pretty well, both against Wolverine and Thor, but that isn't necessarily indicative of top-tier skills.

Considering that Doop is also a 7 in both speed and strength, are we sure the showings he has against Logan and the Odinson are skill feats?

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/Scans/Doop/X-Statix-25-04.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/Scans/Doop/X-Statix-25-08.jpg

srug

Anyways, Capt, the whole series with Wolverine brought Doop's power level down so he would be a fair match for Logan, but Doop has a history of using barely any of his overall power, so it's not exactly a low showing.

I don't think Doop has enough feats to justify a top or higher placement.

But I think second tier would be fair, or certainly third tier. 😬

Originally posted by StylishSmurph
Fair point. Though it does seem like he was mainly in a hand to hand struggle with Thor (or, hand to hammer struggle)

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/Scans/Doop/X-Statix-25-04.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/Scans/Doop/X-Statix-25-08.jpg

srug

Anyways, Capt, the whole series with Wolverine brought Doop's power level down so he would be a fair match for Logan, but Doop has a history of using barely any of his overall power, so it's not exactly a low showing.

I don't think Doop has enough feats to justify a top or higher placement.

But I think second tier would be fair, or certainly third tier. 😬

also the fact Logan straight up beat him with a punch in there first fight shows even more he not a 2nd tier.

that wolverine feats does not in my opinion help him it seems to hurt if any thing.

not to mention in there second fight he sucker punched logan and the entire fight was off pannel.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

also the fact Logan straight up beat him with a punch in there first fight shows even more he not a 2nd tier.

Actually, the fact that Logan hurt Doop with a punch suggests to me that Doop is CLEARLY depowered.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
brought down? You mean he simply does not use it? Given hsi strength speed and durability that would not matter they be automatic. The fact he could not beat Logan straight up shows he not second tier.

also the fact Logan straight up beat him with a punch in there first fight shows even more he not a 2nd tier.

that wolverine feats does not in my opinion help him it seems to hurt if any thing.

not to mention in there second fight he sucker punched logan and the entire fight was off pannel.

Logan didn't beat him in a punch. If Black Panther and Wolverine fight, and BP knocks Wolverine down with a punch (but not out), then the fight ends abruptly, BP didn't win, correct?

The fact that his eye was hanging out was nothing more than comedic effect... he's always normal looking the next panel or page. Not so different from a healing factor.