Ranks for MAs

Started by xmarksthespot143 pages

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Honestly you people need to make up your mind as awhile ago I had a debate about this, and a few people said it's how skilled they are in a variety of fighting skills not just one.
Both their knowledge of martial arts skills (in theory) and their execution of those skills (in practice) are relevant regardless of how many different forms they may know.

Is having a wide repertoire of martial arts knowledge-base important and/or useful? Yes.

Is how they apply whatever knowledge they have of the martial arts equally important? Yes.

People should take both these into account, among other things, when they cast their votes, but at the end of the day how people vote is at their discretion. And at the end of the day, character movement is dependent on majority votes.

Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
I know that herochat has a Taskmaster Respect Thread, you can find some good stuff there.

First, here's TM beating the Cat:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/eternalmaster/Task/Taskfight.jpg

TM definately has skill.

Superherohype has one as well, I'm trying to find the link

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Both their knowledge of martial arts skills (in theory) and their execution of those skills (in practice) are relevant regardless of how many different forms they may know.

Is having a wide repertoire of martial arts knowledge-base important and/or useful? Yes.

Is how they apply whatever knowledge they have of the martial arts equally important? Yes.

People should take both these into account, among other things, when they cast their votes, but at the end of the day how people vote is at their discretion. And at the end of the day, character movement is dependent on majority votes.

That's what I said a long time ago, but people argued against it. Hence, why I'm confused with the ranking.

Why is the Black Panther not in Top Tier?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
That's what I said a long time ago, but people argued against it. Hence, why I'm confused with the ranking.
I'm not sure I was on KMC during that time. But while I personally try and take into account several factors when I vote, which I don't often really, including those I mentioned above - I cannot force or guarantee that others do.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Why is the Black Panther not in Top Tier?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
- N.B. The Top Tier are characters above ~90th percentile of the total hierarchy top tier and under.
There are currently 18 Top Tier slots divided as follows:
Marvel - 8
DC - 8
Independent/Other - 2

- If you feel a character should be moved up or down, please actually state such, so that I do not have to guess intentions.

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If you want to propose that Black Panther move up, you'll need to suggest someone (from Marvel) for him to supplant.

Proposed Changes (Votes For / Votes Against)
Duke to second: 1 [capt] / 1 [llag]
Heavy Duty to second: 1 [capt] / 1 [llag]
Jubilee to third 2 [Smurph, Cresh] / 2 [llag, Nataku]
Kingpin to second: 5 [V, jrod, srank, capt, Accel] / 6 [Me, Soljer, llag, Macoy, Smurph, Nataku]
Moon Knight to second: 3 [Fake McCoy, Alfheim, Mungi] / 2 [capt, endrict]
Midnighter to second: 1 [Soljer] /
Blade to second: [Darth Martin] /

Is this:

Originally posted by endrict
I think Blade has proven himself to be at least a master at MA's.
A vote?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
He's already beat Nick Fury, and no way is Wildcat more skilled then Moon Knight. Hell Hawkgirl has beat Tigress multiple times with ease and Tigress defeated Wildcat pretty handly in JSA Classified #5-7. So why the hell is she even so low? 😬

MK also beat Taskmaster...put the fear of god in him 😖hifty:

Are you proposing a change to Hawkgirl, and the addition of Tigress where?

Are G.I Joe's on this list? If so why??

Originally posted by Amp
Are G.I Joe's on this list? If so why??

Because Snake Eyes/Storm Shadow are masters at MA's and can easily take on Dare Devil and maybe even win. The others Joe's are just skilled.

Yes, I vote for Blade to second Tier

About Mightnighter going to second Tier. I vote against that motion.

I think he is very skilled but he's not a MA's master. He has great combat skills but the real reason why he does so well is it's because of his battle computer and superhuman abilities.

Originally posted by endrict
About Mightnighter going to second Tier. I vote against that motion.

I think he is very skilled but he's not a MA's master. He has great combat skills but the real reason why he does so well is it's because of his battle computer and superhuman abilities.

In Coup D'Etat storyline, one of the Wetwork's members turned off his computer and WTF pwned him badly.

Quadruple post necessary?

Originally posted by Soljer
Quadruple post necessary?

I couldn't edit them after 10-15 mins....sorry.

Against Blade to second
For MK to second.

I think Blade should be moved up to Master Martial Artists(Second Tioer) and replace Cable.

Originally posted by endrict
Because Snake Eyes/Storm Shadow are masters at MA's and can easily take on Dare Devil and maybe even win.

Can someone post some feats. Until then.....

Its the same thing people say about the ninja turtles in vs's battles, yet i havent seen not one feat posted showing their skill.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
I think Blade should be moved up to Master Martial Artists(Second Tioer) and replace Cable.
Only the top tier is limited in number... I already have your vote for a move to second tallied.

Are people proposing we remove the GI Joe characters completely? Or just that they don't warrant such high placement?

I don't have a problem with guys like Snake-Eyes and Storm-Shadow being on the list.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Only the top tier is limited in number... I already have your vote for a move to second tallied.

Are people proposing we remove the GI Joe characters completely? Or just that they don't warrant such high placement?

I think they should ALL be removed.

Originally posted by Amp
I think they should ALL be removed.

On what grounds? they are part or main stream marvel are trained professionals.

Originally posted by endrict
On what grounds? they are part or main stream marvel are trained professionals.

GI Joe? Main stream Marvel as in 616?