Ranks for MAs

Originally posted by jrodslam
GI Joe? Main stream Marvel as in 616?

They should be.

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Current Hierarchy [192]

Cosmic Tier: (Transcendent Martial Artists) [3]
Gamora, Karate Kid, Mantis

Uber Tier: (Unearthly Martial Artists) [10]
Adam Warlock, Captain Mar-Vell, Kirigi (DC), Mandarin, Moondragon, O-Sensei, Ogun, Stick, Temugin, Thanos

Top Tier: ("Greatest Martial Artists"😉 [18]
Batgirl (Cassandra Cain), Batman, Black Canary, Bronze Tiger, Captain America, Connor Hawke, Constantine Drakon, Daredevil, Elektra, Iron Fist, Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, Shang Chi, Shen Kuei (The Cat), Snake-Eyes, Storm Shadow, Taskmaster, Wolverine

Second Tier: (Master Martial Artists) [58]
Agent X, Artemis, Azrael, Backlash, Black Panther, Black Widow, Bullseye, Cable, Champion of the Universe, Cheshire, Crossbones, Daken, David Cain, Deadpool, Deathstroke, Domino, Donatello, Echo, Erik Killmonger, Gorgon (Tomi Shishido), Green Arrow, Grifter, Hawkman, Jason Blood, Judomaster (Hadley Jagger), Karnak, Lady Deathstrike, Leonardo, Magnus, Merlyn (DC), Michaelangelo, Midnight Sun, Mr Sensitive, Natas, Nick Fury, Nightwing, Nomad, Orion, Ozymandias (DC), Prometheus, Puck, Ra's al Ghul, Raphael, Ravager, Red Hood, Red Skull, Silver Samurai, Steel Serpent, Stone, Talia al Ghul, Twelve Brothers in Silk, White Tiger (Angela del Toro), Wildcat (Ted Grant), Winter Soldier, Wonder Woman, Vandal Savage, X-23, Zealot

Third Tier: (Highly Skilled Martial Artists) [65]
Ares (Marvel), Arsenal, Bane, Beta Ray Bill, Black Bolt, Black Cat, Black Knight (Dane Whitman), Blade, Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Colleen Wing, Damian Wayne, Doctor Mid-Nite, Doctor Strange, Donna Troy, Drax, Duke(GI Joe), Grendel (Hunter Rose), Hawkeye, Heavy Duty(GI Joe), Hercules, Hippolyta, Huntress, Katana, KGBeast, Kingpin, Lady Vic, Lobo, Loki, Matsu'o Tsurayaba, Midnighter, Mister America (Tex Thomson), Mister Terrific, Mockingbird, Moon Knight, Mystique, Namor, Night Thrasher, Nightcrawler, Omega Red, Onyx, Prodigy, Psylocke, Punisher, The Question, Revanche, Robin (Tim Drake), Sage, Sabretooth, Shadowcat, Shatterstar, Shrike IV (Boone), Speedy (Mia Dearden), Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew), Stacy X, Terry McGinnis, Thena, Thor, Typhoid Mary, US Agent, V, Viper (Madame Hydra), Wild Child, Wong, Yukio

Fourth Tier: (Trained Martial Artists) [38]
Aquaman, Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), Batwoman, Beast, Blink, Blue Devil, Boom Boom, Cannonball, Carol Danvers, Catwoman, Colossus, Cyclops, Danielle Moonstar, Deathbird, Falcon, Gambit, Hawkgirl, Invisible Woman, Iron Man, Jamie Madrox, Joker, Jubilee, Luke Cage, Mister Fantastic, Misty Knight, Nite Owl II, Rorschach, She-Hulk, Starfire, Storm, Strong Guy, Superman, Tarantula, Thing, Viper (Madame Hydra), Wonder Man, Zauriel

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Proposed Changes (Votes For / Votes Against)
Jubilee to third 2 [Smurph, Cresh] / 2 [llag, Nataku]
Kingpin to second: 5 [V, jrod, srank, capt, Accel] / 6 [Me, Soljer, llag, Macoy, Smurph, Nataku]
Moon Knight to second: 4 [llagrok, Fake McCoy, Alfheim, Mungi] / 2 [capt, endrict]
Midnighter to second: 1 [Soljer] / 1 [endrict]
Blade to second: 2 [endrict, Darth Martin] / 1 [llagrok]

Changes Passed/Defeated:
Duke to second: 1 [capt] / 1 [llag]
Heavy Duty to second: 1 [capt] / 1 [llag]

N.B. There was insufficient interest or knowledge of the GI Joe characters to warrant the proposed change remaining in the list.

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Additions:
I'd like to add Alpha (Michael Sommers) and the "Mad Dog" but where to?

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Notes:

- The last tier has been dissolved. If you think a character that has been removed should be re-added or a character that has been retained be removed then suggestions are welcome.
For reference purposes the characters removed were the following:
Apocalypse, Grace Choi, Hulk, Monet St. Croix, Scarlet Witch, Spider-Man,

- N.B. The Top Tier are characters above ~90th percentile of the total hierarchy top tier and under.
There are currently 18 Top Tier slots divided as follows:
Marvel - 8
DC - 8
Independent/Other - 2

- If you feel a character should be moved up or down, please actually state such, so that I do not have to guess intentions.

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After a quick scan, I didn't see Jakita Wagner in here.

I'd opt for her to be in third or fourth.

The top martial artist (as they are written, not by fanboys) are:
1)Deathstroke
2)Batgirl, Lady Shiva, & Taskmaster
3)Batman , Cap. America (steve rogers), and Bronze Tiger
4)Wolverine & Iron Fist
5) Connor Hawke
6) Wildcat & Black Panther
7)Black Canary

There is more but that is how they are written so far.

Originally posted by kenobi
The top martial artist (as they are written, not by fanboys) are:
1)Deathstroke
2)Batgirl, Lady Shiva, & Taskmaster
3)Batman , Cap. America (steve rogers), and Bronze Tiger
4)Wolverine & Iron Fist
5) Connor Hawke
6) Wildcat & Black Panther
7)Black Canary

There is more but that is how they are written so far.

You are quite mistaken.

Originally posted by kenobi
The top martial artist (as they are written, not by fanboys) are:
1)Deathstroke
2)Batgirl, Lady Shiva, & Taskmaster
3)Batman , Cap. America (steve rogers), and Bronze Tiger
4)Wolverine & Iron Fist
5) Connor Hawke
6) Wildcat & Black Panther
7)Black Canary

There is more but that is how they are written so far.

Originally posted by kenobi
The top martial artist (as they are written, not by fanboys) are:
1)Deathstroke
2)Batgirl, Lady Shiva, & Taskmaster
3)Batman , Cap. America (steve rogers), and Bronze Tiger
4)Wolverine & Iron Fist
5) Connor Hawke
6) Wildcat & Black Panther
7)Black Canary

There is more but that is how they are written so far.

..........sorry,but no. Thats one of the most fanboyish lists I have ever seen.

deathstroke.............as number one............are you kidding me?

please just go away and don't spew such nonsenses about people being fanboys and then give us your personal list which screams fanboy and ignorance.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
..........sorry,but no. Thats one of the most fanboyish lists I have ever seen.

deathstroke.............as number one............are you kidding me?

please just go away and don't spew such nonsenses about people being fanboys and then give us your personal list which screams fanboy and ignorance.

wait, you're accusing someone of being fanboyish...? heehee hahaha hawhaw

Originally posted by Master-Borg
wait, you're accusing someone of being fanboyish...? heehee hahaha hawhaw

....................are you kidding me?

He was saying how others lists that are different then the one he just posted are created by fanboys...........and then the list he posts screams fanboy and ignorance.

oh and by the way please post a fanboyish comment I have made on this user name

Please oh please Id love to see it.

Funny thing is you’re not even qualified to be a fanboy, because in order to be a fanboy you actually have to own and read comics which you however fail on both accounts. You’re a step below fanboys, you’re simply an annoying individual who frankly brings nothing to the forum and who constantly steals others arguments and when you actually use your own idea’s they fail miserably.

Oh by the way any time you want to vs me in the battlezone, I be happy to show you why actually reading comic and having knowledge of what you are speaking about absolutely pwns talking out your back end like you constantly do day after day pwnage after pwnage.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

Oh by the way any time you want to vs me in the battlezone, I be happy to show you why actually reading comic and having knowledge of what you are speaking about absolutely pwns talking out your back end like you constantly do day after day pwnage after pwnage.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
Who do you want to debate...you only know wolverine.

Ya I only know wolverine.............even if that was true that be still one more then you know or read.

I could debate any of the fallowing, such as thing, colossus,punisher,sabertooth,Night crawler, cyclopes Pritty much any x-men, Iron Fist, Bucky, Captain America,Drizzt, Bruenor any companion of the hall or member of Bruenors clan, ninja turtles, Thunder Cats,x-23, Maverick, Omega red,cyber,gorgon,spiderman, pritty much any spiderman villain,Mace windu,kitfisto,yoda,obi wan kanobi and others

Darkhawk or whatever hes called to second tier. 😱

The one from Supreme Power.

Seeing as how sabertooth always owns Wolverine in every firght the have (with the exception of his death which is PIS) why is he beneath him in this MA tree?

Sabretooth is above Wolverine as far as physical stats go. Weapon Plus upped him once more. Still, I have to agree though.

If Wolverine is such a great martial artist, shouldn't his huge edge in martial arts give him the advantage he needs to beat him?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Seeing as how sabertooth always owns Wolverine in every firght the have (with the exception of his death which is PIS) why is he beneath him in this MA tree?

1. Sabretooth DOESN'T own Wolverine in every fight they've had. If I recall correctly, their record is more like fifty fifty.

2. Superman's below Batman in a martial arts ranking - why, oh why is that?

Ummmmm........no until recently in this "Origin" saga Sabes has owned Logan consistently I'd say its more like 70/30. I mean he'd come and beat him nearly to death every "birthday" he had. But thats a seperate thread.

Creed was the stronger one and more ruthless one, while Logan was more skilled and agile.

Creed doesn't really own Logan....It's more like most of the time Logan wins.

Originally posted by llagrok

If Wolverine is such a great martial artist, shouldn't his huge edge in martial arts give him the advantage he needs to beat him?

Because most of the writers are shit for Logan. A well written Logan is very skilled.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Ummmmm........no until recently in this "Origin" saga Sabes has owned Logan consistently I'd say its more like 70/30. I mean he'd come and beat him nearly to death every "birthday" he had. But thats a seperate thread.

wrong. There record was roughly 50/50. Hell jinzin and rice root had an arguement on who had actaully won more.

according to "wolverine the best there is" wolverine has the greater wins.

so no your wrong.

sabertooth won about as many times as he lost.