KMC Comic Book Tiers

SOmethings Puzzle me tho. Martian Manhunter is not Elite Even Tho he has hands down the best Molecular control of his own body that I have ever seen. And he is like the 3rd best hero Telepath in all of comics after Void and Saturn Girl. And yet he isn't at the top. I know he isn't as strong as some of the others, but what is the criteria for the Top? Is it power output? Being the best at what you do? Would that mean Spawn is high top tier? ( Not God spawn). Or what about some of the Eternals?
Element Lad? Who would seriously pwn pretty much of the High Top tiers. Is the high Top tier just for those who have had enough of thier own books and spot light mixed in with a lil popularity or is it really for the Elite? I certainly don't see Surfer or Any GL as having any sizeable advantage on Quasar or Phayla Vell. And I certainly Don't see Superman Beating the Tar out of Gladiator. Not going to happen.

Originally posted by manorastroman
could we all agree on bumping genis and terrax down a notch, then? and i agree newjak...that's why i proposed the "elite" class. it'll take a tough period of restructuring, but once that's done, i think the system will work much better in the long run.

I think Top-Herald serves the same purpose as your Elite class so I don't really like the idea because either way people are still going to try and bump people up to Elite from High-Herald.

I think all we have to do is be strict on who we let in the High-Herlad and we'll be fine.

Originally posted by Newjak
Terrax just blew up a planet I think he is where he needs to be Genis may I'll let other people decide on that one.

I think Top-Herald serves the same purpose as your Elite class so I don't really like the idea because either way people are still going to try and bump people up to Elite from High-Herald.

I think all we have to do is be strict on who we let in the High-Herlad and we'll be fine.

not many people will agree with genis being bumped down

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
SOmethings Puzzle me tho. Martian Manhunter is not Elite Even Tho he has hands down the best Molecular control of his own body that I have ever seen. And he is like the 3rd best hero Telepath in all of comics after Void and Saturn Girl. And yet he isn't at the top. I know he isn't as strong as some of the others, but what is the criteria for the Top? Is it power output? Being the best at what you do? Would that mean Spawn is high top tier? ( Not God spawn). Or what about some of the Eternals?
Element Lad? Who would seriously pwn pretty much of the High Top tiers. Is the high Top tier just for those who have had enough of thier own books and spot light mixed in with a lil popularity or is it really for the Elite? I certainly don't see Surfer or Any GL as having any sizeable advantage on Quasar or Phayla Vell. And I certainly Don't see Superman Beating the Tar out of Gladiator. Not going to happen.

If the Top Herald level was just about who had the most and best books, why the hell would Adam Warlock be there? Spider-Man and Wolverine would be there before him. 😂

Seriously dude, it's pretty clear you're always going to have some problem with the list while everyone else seems to agree with 95% of it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
SOmethings Puzzle me tho. Martian Manhunter is not Elite Even Tho he has hands down the best Molecular control of his own body that I have ever seen. And he is like the 3rd best hero Telepath in all of comics after Void and Saturn Girl. And yet he isn't at the top. I know he isn't as strong as some of the others, but what is the criteria for the Top? Is it power output? Being the best at what you do? Would that mean Spawn is high top tier? ( Not God spawn). Or what about some of the Eternals?
Element Lad? Who would seriously pwn pretty much of the High Top tiers. Is the high Top tier just for those who have had enough of thier own books and spot light mixed in with a lil popularity or is it really for the Elite? I certainly don't see Surfer or Any GL as having any sizeable advantage on Quasar or Phayla Vell. And I certainly Don't see Superman Beating the Tar out of Gladiator. Not going to happen.

Originally posted by Validus
He seemed to be referring the Odinforce. He said Ragnarok would play a part in the story and how Thor feels about all that, yadda, yadda.

Score!! 👆

I mean, I don't want an odin-powered Thor running around. That'd be boring, and he'd end up getting owned by the Hulk to fuel the PIS.

But, taking Ragnarok into account in the story is definitely a plus! Thanks for the info, Val.

Originally posted by Newjak
Terrax just blew up a planet I think he is where he needs to be Genis may I'll let other people decide on that one.

I think Top-Herald serves the same purpose as your Elite class so I don't really like the idea because either way people are still going to try and bump people up to Elite from High-Herald.

I think all we have to do is be strict on who we let in the High-Herlad and we'll be fine.

i dunno...i guess i've said my piece. it just doesn't sit well that sentry wtfpwnd terrax, who's on the same tier, and stalemated genis, who's on the tier above. and then there's the void breaking hulk, something i've never seen surfer (for instance) accomplish comparably.

Originally posted by Validus
lol

If the Top Herald level was just about who had the most and best books, why the hell would Adam Warlock be there? Spider-Man and Wolverine would be there before him. 😂

Seriously dude, it's pretty clear you're always going to have some problem with the list while everyone else seems to agree with 95% of it.

I think Question should be moved up to low herald 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Newjak
Terrax just blew up a planet I think he is where he needs to be Genis may I'll let other people decide on that one.

I think Top-Herald serves the same purpose as your Elite class so I don't really like the idea because either way people are still going to try and bump people up to Elite from High-Herald.

I think all we have to do is be strict on who we let in the High-Herlad and we'll be fine.

Making a new category wouldn't solve the problem of people wondering why Character A is below Character B even though BS Comic #214 showed Character A saying he was more powerful than B.

Originally posted by Validus
Exactly.

Making a new category wouldn't solve the problem of people wondering why Character A is below Character B even though BS Comic #214 showed Character A saying he was more powerful than B.

what i was saying earlier.......

Originally posted by manorastroman
i dunno...i guess i've said my piece. it just doesn't sit well that sentry wtfpwnd terrax, who's on the same tier, and stalemated genis, who's on the tier above. and then there's the void breaking hulk, something i've never seen surfer (for instance) accomplish comparably.

Originally posted by Validus
I'd rather see Terrax moved down myself. Who the hell has he ever beaten anyway?

once again....I hate to bring this up....again...But we are keeping Sentry down...right?

Originally posted by Newjak
He just recently blew up a planet and a Annihilation Warship something that taxed Firelord. I think right now he is where he needs to be.

Also, we must realize that within the tiers, there will always be a best. We can't number every single character 1 - 5675, it would be too taxing and too arguable.

There are people in the high street class that would beat almost everyone else in that class, but don't deserve to be low middle. Same with the top tiers. Even if you think Jonn Jonnz can beat everyone else in his class, it doesn't mean he necessarily deserves to be bumped up, it just means he's one of the best in that class.

Where the hell was all this logic in the last thread? You guys would have saved Leo a headache. 😛

Originally posted by Soljer
Also, we must realize that within the tiers, there will always be a best. We can't number every single character 1 - 5675, it would be too taxing and too arguable.

There are people in the high street class that would beat almost everyone else in that class, but don't deserve to be low middle. Same with the top tiers. Even if you think Jonn Jonnz can beat everyone else in his class, it doesn't mean he necessarily deserves to be bumped up, it just means he's one of the best in that class.

QFTMFT 🙂

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Why? Cause he owns Green Arrow? 😖hifty: 😆

😆

No, because Nightwing easily owns him yet alone Batman,

plus GA should be able to put the smackdown on him like he did Riddler, Solomon Grundy, Deathstroke etc etc ✅

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/436019_1-respect-green-arrow

Please just check out the link before I hulk out 😠 ! 🙁

Nevermind i was looking at the list on page 10, i thought a new catagory was added.

Originally posted by Validus
Where the hell was all this logic in the last thread? You guys would have saved Leo a headache. 😛

Anyways I will compromise with this though. Even though I agree with Soljer I would rather see people bumped down then having all this argument for other people being bumped up.

Even though there will always be a best in each group that sits on the fences.

Plus I would like to reiterate as far as I know this isn't a list based of off who can beat who it is a list of power levels not powersets. 😛