Originally posted by Galan007
can someone justify to me why dr. manhattan is ranked as trans-level? the on panel feats he has are quite honestly, sub-surfer-level.
Because he's from Watchmen and seems like a god in relative terms.
I'd vote him down to MidHerald where we have people like Sersi and Firestorm who have pretty much his powerset and more/better feats.
Anyone want to place the major characters from Fables?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because he's from Watchmen and seems like a god in relative terms.I'd vote him down to MidHerald where we have people like Sersi and Firestorm who have pretty much his powerset and more/better feats.
Anyone want to place the major characters from Fables?
Bigby Wolf for mid meta (maybe high end low since that's Wolverine meets Wind Dancer).
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because he's from Watchmen and seems like a god in relative terms.I'd vote him down to MidHerald where we have people like Sersi and Firestorm who have pretty much his powerset and more/better feats.
Being able to quickly reconstitute yourself from completely displaced atoms, and existing at all times at once, is beyond Sersi/Firestorm.
Originally posted by DigiMark007Meh
Being able to quickly reconstitute yourself from completely displaced atoms, and existing at all times at once, is beyond Sersi/Firestorm.
Wolverine heals from pretty much anything, and Mantis had the ability to pretty much do the same thing that DM was doing.
Truth be told on panel besides the healing and cosmic awareness type stuff he didn't do anything Magneto couldn't do power wise.
Originally posted by Newjak
Truth be told on panel besides the healing and cosmic awareness type stuff he didn't do anything Magneto couldn't do power wise.
...which honestly leads me to believe he's closer to abstract than heralds. Watchmen is about the story and characters, and a true god steps lightly, not overtly displaying power. Hell, Surfer has better on-panel feats than Sandman's Dream. Should we bump him down to Mid herald?
Matter manip. is the same for most characters, so yes, he's no more powerful in that department than the Sersi's and FS's of the world. But he's clearly at another level of awareness from, well, anyone outside the abstract set, and Wolverine has never has his molecules displaced into nothing, so that's a bad comparison. I don't know of a "healing" feat (if you can call it that) on that level from anyone outside of Skyfather+
Originally posted by DigiMark007Like I said Mantis has similar Awareness to Dr. Manhattan, and she isn't high herald. A mutant girl in X-Factor was demonstrating the exact same ability.
...which honestly leads me to believe he's closer to abstract than heralds. Watchmen is about the story and characters, and a true god steps lightly, not overtly displaying power. Hell, Surfer has better on-panel feats than Sandman's Dream. Should we bump him down to Mid herald?Matter manip. is the same for most characters, so yes, he's no more powerful in that department than the Sersi's and FS's of the world. But he's clearly at another level of awareness from, well, anyone outside the abstract set, and Wolverine has never has his molecules displaced into nothing, so that's a bad comparison. I don't know of a "healing" feat (if you can call it that) on that level from anyone outside of Skyfather+
Absorbing Man(Low Herald) pulled off the being dispersed and reforming deal. So has Hydro Man, as he has been evaporated and eventually came back together and he is Meta.
Growing big, I don't even need to mention how low on the totem pole that is.
Making a glass fortress and moving it around. Also not that impressive in the grand scheme of things. Defeating a few none powered people also not very good.
Even if you put them all together you barely get the nod for Mid-herald, imo.
Just because he was the god of his world doesn't mean he is a god in other universes scheme of things.
Originally posted by ScooblessIN terms of practically it may as well be.
Mantis has awareness of probable futures, Dr Manhatten exists in the past, present and future simultaneously, it's not the same thing.
As the good Doctor himself said.
"He is a puppet that sees the strings."
He admits he actually has no control over time, nor can he use it.
As the Comedian told him when he shot the girl, and DM was acting shocked. You could have turned the bullet into flowers or something.
If nothing else this just demonstrates more limits he had then his supposed Trans level ranking should allow him 🙂
Originally posted by ScooblessOK I know what you are talking about.
lol ... I can't really remember (been a while since I read it) I'm sure he foresaw the end of the world (or something) but then changed things after discussing it with his ex ... which was kind of weird because he already knew how the conversation was going to go.
He made his decision to stop it then failed 😛
