KMC Comic Book Tiers

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Originally posted by Soljer
And you don't think he's talking about CPU time? "Lemme open up 'Isolate Signal.exe' which'll finish in just a few clock cycles."

That was my inclination upon reading it, not to mention the fact that a single showing where the character's inner narration describes a short time (possibly for dramatic purposes) doesn't really lend much credence to the supposition.

Omniscient narration describing the time would be better. Even better than that would be an actual 'timer' with which we could compare actions.

I find myself extremely skeptical of that scan being provided as evidence of Tony having picosecond reaction times. The evidence for it is highly dubious and to be frank...that's Flash-level reaction times for ****'s sake.

Not that Tony needs picosecond reaction times to get low-herald.

If it's CPU time, and he's virtually a man-machine hybrid, then how is it not picosecond reaction feat? Does this mean that he can react and counter a superspeed punch in picoseconds? No, since his physicality prevents him from doing so. But anything involving computer processing is. Scanning, firewalling, power rerouting, etc.

If that sounds cool with you, I think we actually agree. Otherwise, if you don't think he + his armor are capable of that, then there are only two choices, it's either true or it's hyperbole. For me, such precise language terms do not suggest hyperbole to me. If I approach it without incredulity in mind and from a literary (not literal) point of view, who talks like that when they don't mean what they're saying? Stark may be snarky sometimes, but his speech is still pretty down to earth, relatively speaking, and he doesn't blow sunshine up his own ass... especially to himself in his own mind. Hyperbole tends to be used towards an audience. There's no audience here.

Originally posted by Scoobless
All your Extremis are belong to us.

😈

Well, I know you would try that. But fortunately, everyone else isn't as soulless.

🙄

Souls are overrated.

innocent

Originally posted by Faux Smurph
I have a bit of a problem with the high meta/low herald separation.

Why is Karate Kid low herald? Darwin? Gamora? Forerunner?

Jack Hawksmoor has one solid herald showing, and a bunch of meta level stuff. He should realistically be high meta.

The Wendigos should be listed by type, and most should be in high meta, IMO. Though I could be wrong, but...

Why is Drax is low herald? Has his current incarnation been re-tiered?

I'm pretty sure Apollo isn't any higher than Simon.

Is that Isis, as in Black Adam's late wife, that's listed as low herald?

What are Tempest's low herald showings?

There's also Prof. X that I really don't see as low herald if characters like Emma Frost are only high.

Anyways, that was after one look at the list.

Two or three ones, actually, speaking of Jack. But he's a "curcumstances" character who can't be clearly listed as low herald or high meta... a borderliner. He has a "desperate move" on a herald level that he used only twice in the carrier...with Tokyo and that Arizona city.
Gamora? Don't really get her placement as low herald, Karate Kid as well- he can pretty much be high meta, especially post-crisis one (pre-crisis is entirely different animal).
Prof X is at herald tier based on his reputation and a couple of feats like the one with Galactus. Emma has yet to build such rep for herself... people tend to underrate her.

But Emma's also got her diamond form if she needs it.

Telepathy's nice and all, but it still makes Prof. X little more than a one trick pony. Maybe like a three trick pony.

Originally posted by Faux Smurph
But Emma's also got her diamond form if she needs it.

Telepathy's nice and all, but it still makes Prof. X little more than a one trick pony. Maybe like a three trick pony.

You're right. Rep only- not much for being herald tier.

You definitely need a new avy.

Originally posted by Faux Smurph
You definitely need a new avy.

Good with that one. And I won't promote Emma up at herald tier...not before I finish Ill's tourney🙂

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Good with that one. And I won't promote Emma up at herald tier...not before I finish Ill's tourney🙂

Hell, Extremis is about to be bumped to low herald (it's being talked about). It won't hurt her status on your team. No one's going to begrudge you a borderline pick and try to get it banned after the fact. If people had problems with Emma, they would have said so by now.

Though you'll have a hard time doing it. Just "eyeballing" it with Emma, I don't see why she's more deserving of herald than lots of others in her tier.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Hell, Extremis is about to be bumped to low herald (it's being talked about). It won't hurt her status on your team. No one's going to begrudge you a borderline pick and try to get it banned after the fact. If people had problems with Emma, they would have said so by now.

Though you'll have a hard time doing it. Just "eyeballing" it with Emma, I don't see why she's more deserving of herald than lots of others in her tier.

I was joking, not now...though there's going to be one big ass feat soon in X-Men Secret Invasion mini...if spoilers are right.

One big-ass feat does not a low herald make.

tinkabear

Spoilers also like to lie, or be vague enough that we can't really figure stuff out.

Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
Good with that one. And I won't promote Emma up at herald tier...not before I finish Ill's tourney🙂

I think what Smurph meant was to bring Xavier down a tier due to the one dimensional powerset which makes sense I guess...the Shadow King while the same I guess is not corporeal and lives on the astral plane.

BTW This may sound silly but what are Saturn Girls best feats? 😕

Originally posted by DigiMark007
One big-ass feat does not a low herald make.
It make be two, not one, but...

*coughjackhawksmoorcough*

Originally posted by Faux Smurph
It make be two, not one, but...

*coughjackhawksmoorcough*

But he can always do that. The Authority Prime arc proved that. He'd just be killing millions, so he doesn't. Most characters don't have that excellent a plot device to use as a scapegoat for not fighting at 100%...for most, it's just bad writing or inconsistent showings.

So it's not that his feats are all over the board. He's actually quite consistent, and only pulls his biggest power when needed.

Oh I would lower Talisman as currently she apparently isn't as powerful as she once was. Whatever that means.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Oh I would lower Talisman as currently she apparently isn't as powerful as she once was. Whatever that means.

What happened? I haven't been keeping up with Marvel Comics Presents.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
What happened? I haven't been keeping up with Marvel Comics Presents.

Oh she never appeared in MCP, it was a comment she made in Omega Flight which I forgot about

http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/?action=view&current=OmegaFlight_5_0011.jpg

Originally posted by -K-M-
Oh she never appeared in MCP, it was a comment she made in Omega Flight which I forgot about

http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t105/DC_CaptainComet/?action=view&current=OmegaFlight_5_0011.jpg

Hmm...did she mean that emotionally as in she's not as strong as she used to be because she just lost her father or did she mean that she's not as powerful as she's used to be? And has her magic been shown to be much weaker lately? (In general I think Marvel Magic has been weakened...but that Magic Crossover is supposed to fix that)

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Hmm...did she mean that emotionally as in she's not as strong as she used to be because she just lost her father or did she mean that she's not as powerful as she's used to be? And has her magic been shown to be much weaker lately? (In general I think Marvel Magic has been weakened...but that Magic Crossover is supposed to fix that)

I thought not as powerful as she once was, but she seemed to have no problem stealing and absorbing magic from the augmented Wrecking Crew. She hasn't been seen since Omega Flight and the her being weaker was never fully explained. *shrugs*