KMC Comic Book Tiers

Originally posted by Faceman
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yeah nice talking to ya Smurph.

As always, you're doing a great job confusing everyone on board.

I can break this down for you.

ABC logic usually fails because it compares a series of character victories over one another, to say that because character A>B, and character B>C, therefore character A>C.

Unfortunately, with comics, this doesn't work, because it doesn't take character and powers into account.

In this instance, I'm comparing characters with the exact same power set, to attempt to show you why two characters that share the same potential, do not necessarily belong in the same tier.

Green Lanterns all have the same base ability, but only the best belong in high herald, due to their ability to use it.

Your argument is, I quote...

"Exactly, but if Thor has access to [Odin's Power], then he should be placed in [the tier that Odin is in]."

When this logic obviously does not hold up with the rest of our tier system.

🙂

If this is still too much for you, I can try a picture or something.

Originally posted by Faceman
Exactly, but if Thor has access to that power, then he should be placed in that tier.

imo KT is a prime example of a character whom may have had access to a grand power, but he simply never demonstrated the ability to wield it proficiently enough to justify such a ranking.

Originally posted by Faux Smurph
K...?

I can break this down for you.

ABC logic usually fails because it compares a series of character victories over one another, to say that because character A>B, and character B>C, therefore character A>C.

Unfortunately, with comics, this doesn't work, because it doesn't take character and powers into account.

In this instance, I'm comparing characters with the exact same power set, to attempt to show you why two characters that share the same potential, do not necessarily belong in the same tier.

Green Lanterns all have the same base ability, but only the best belong in high herald, due to their ability to use it.

Your argument is, I quote...

"Exactly, but if Thor has access to [Odin's Power], then he should be placed in [the tier that Odin is in]."

When this logic obviously does not hold up with the rest of our tier system.

🙂

If this is still too much for you, I can try a picture or something.

you're too easy. 😐

Originally posted by Galan007
having access to a certain degree of power, certainly does not mean the entirety of said power can be used at any given time, by any given character. hell, firestorm has access to an infinite amount of energy, but his inability to use the bulk of said power is why he's a lowly mid-heralder. and there's nothing logically wrong with that.

imo KT is a prime example of a character whom may have had access to a grand power, but he simply never demonstrated the ability to wield it proficiently enough to justify such a ranking.

I agree he shouldn't be placed on Odin's tier.

Originally posted by Faceman
you're too easy. 😐

Just like the last debate with you, you're all dodge, and no counter.

👆

Originally posted by Faux Smurph
El oh el...

Just like the last debate with you, you're all dodge, and no counter.

👆

What debate ? Got link ?

If it's the Hulk vs. Abomination thread, I think it's clear I dominated you pal. 😕

Originally posted by Faceman
What debate ? Got link ?

If it's the Hulk vs. Abomination thread, I think it's clear I dominated you pal. 😕

Your dodging and unwillingness to back up anything you say is now demonstrated again... no need to rehash the exact same event in a different thread.

But thanks, Face. This was fun. 🙂

Originally posted by Faux Smurph
I'd go into how I argued the other side, and still won... but it's really beside the point.

Your dodging and unwillingness to back up anything you say is now demonstrated again... no need to rehash the exact same event in a different thread.

But thanks, Face. This was fun. 🙂

Then why even bring it up if you can't provide a link ?

And yeah, it's always fun Smurph, don't get it twisted and make it personal.

Originally posted by Faceman
Then why even bring it up if you can't provide a link ?

And yeah, it's always fun Smurph, don't get it twisted and make it personal.

Lol @ KMC getting personal. I just found your dodging funny.

Originally posted by Faux Smurph
Just search "Hulk vs. Abomination"... I think we were on the 2nd or 3rd page, so is should have 20-60 replies, unless is picked up afterwards.

Lol @ KMC getting personal. I just found your dodging funny.

I can tell that you have a real '' hard on '' for me. 😉

Found it.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=472307&pagenumber=1

Again, it was all you dodging me... the entire time.

History repeats itself...

Originally posted by Faux Smurph
Found it.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=472307&pagenumber=1

Again, it was all you dodging me... the entire time.

History repeats itself...

good luck with that. 😬

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Originally posted by Endless Mike
No, he could barely fix the moon and then Odin himself arrived and explained that Thor wasn't using the Odinforce correctly, and gave him some demonstrations.

Thor's had other great feats with the odinforce though, before King Thor he was able to deal with Surtur.

Originally posted by Faceman
good luck with that. 😬

you don't counter, everytime you make a point, and someone refutes it, you back up, and play it off. So he's right...despite you carrying this wind about you like you're 'teh pwnage'. I simplified it as best i could, without being condenscending. If you still can't comprehend it, or playing ignorant, then that really says alot about you, even on the net. Like if you're dodgy on the net, the freaken net of all places, I can only imagine how spinless you are in real life....

Originally posted by Dr Hackenbush
you don't counter, everytime you make a point, and someone refutes it, you back up, and play it off. So he's right...despite you carrying this wind about you like you're 'teh pwnage'. I simplified it as best i could, without being condenscending. If you still can't comprehend it, or playing ignorant, then that really says alot about you, even on the net. Like if you're dodgy on the net, the freaken net of all places, I can only imagine how spinless you are in real life....

my credit under the sig uhuh

Originally posted by Dr Hackenbush
you don't counter, everytime you make a point, and someone refutes it, you back up, and play it off. So he's right...despite you carrying this wind about you like you're 'teh pwnage'. I simplified it as best i could, without being condenscending. If you still can't comprehend it, or playing ignorant, then that really says alot about you, even on the net. Like if you're dodgy on the net, the freaken net of all places, I can only imagine how spinless you are in real life....

Wow, still fighting Smurphs battles for him ?

It's true what they say, cowards travel in packs.

Originally posted by Dr Hackenbush
you don't counter, everytime you make a point, and someone refutes it, you back up, and play it off. So he's right...despite you carrying this wind about you like you're 'teh pwnage'. I simplified it as best i could, without being condenscending. If you still can't comprehend it, or playing ignorant, then that really says alot about you, even on the net. Like if you're dodgy on the net, the freaken net of all places, I can only imagine how spinless you are in real life....

I was truly getting pwned, and couldn't handle myself against such a fearsome debater as Faceman, possessor of a wit of a far higher caliber than my own.

🙁

Originally posted by Faux Smurph
Thanks for fighting my battle for me, BFF.

I was truly getting pwned, and couldn't handle myself against such a fearsome debater as Faceman, possessor of a wit of a far higher caliber than my own.

🙁

Originally posted by J.J. Dyn-O-Mite
Clearly you know nothing about ABC logic, noob.

Well, amusing as this "witty" exchange has been,I suggest we move on. I propose Powergirl for Low herald.