KMC Comic Book Tiers

Originally posted by leonidas
Amazo--maybe beats thanos, but amazo has lost so many times hard not to see thanos using tech or mind powers or something to take the android out.

Asgardian Destroyer--animator is the weak link. thanos could likely use his tp to ko the force driving it.

Black Racer--tough call. not sure thanos could do much. but BR is a special case and doesn't just battle for the hell of it. he probably shouldn't even be on the list.

Count Abyss--would have to recheck the IW arc to know for sure how he'd do.

Circe at her best--maybe. was circe at her best>zeus? if so, i'd give her the majority. if not, it's likely a toss-up. but she NEEDS to be at her highest, or thanos would stomp her.

H/P Doomsday--i'd say dd would take him for the majority.

Classic Strange--only with prep. straight up thanos would best him for a big majority. classic strange=overrated on the forum

Despero (depending on version)--come on. thanos would pwn despero 10/10 . . .

Gog--i agree, gog would take the majority, but not easily

High E--no chance

Keeper--keeper was almost overpowered by the classic gotg. he was damn neared KILLED by an extremely hungry galactus. thanos would likely beat him

Classic Mongul--no way, or if he did take a majority, it is not even close to easy

Onimar Synn--this would be a great fight

Res man 1M--yeah, RM1M would beat him unless thanos could use his tech.

Silver age kryptonians/daxamites--meh. maybe.

Solusandra--??

Stayne--doubtful.

Sun Eater--another special case. it doesn't fight in the traditional way. supes was able to enter it easily and use a bomb to blow it up. this thing likely shouldn't be in the list either

SBP--be a great battle. not sure who's take the majority

Supes 1M-- 1M would likely win

Takion--not sure takion would win a 1on1. be close

Tyrant--tyrant should be off or above the list

Validus--be another great battle

king thor would also best him, but i don't think he should be on the trans list either.

for someone accusing people of lowballing, you're really not giving thanos the credit he deserves. you call for proof, but thanos almost never loses in straight up combat. YOU'RE the one saying all those people could beat him. thus the onus of proof lies with YOU to convince US that they could beat thanos.

You biased motha.......Great battle? Against Validus? Or Synn? Or Classic Mongul? Freaking Superboy-Prime? The Thanos wanking has reached rediculous proportions on this board. 👇 Great fight is arguable, but Thanos taking anything close to a majority is rediculous.

Some like Amazo have different powers or versions. But I'm not giving Thanos a majority over an Amazo compedently using the powers of the big 7.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You biased motha.......Great battle? Against Validus? Or Synn? Or Classic Mongul? Freaking Superboy-Prime? The Thanos wanking has reached rediculous proportions on this board. 👇 Great fight is arguable, but Thanos taking anything close to a majority is rediculous.

Some like Amazo have different powers or versions. But I'm not giving Thanos a majority over an Amazo compedently using the powers of the big 7.

and your inability to see past your dislike of thanos colours everything you have to say regarding him. again, the burden of proof falls to you. adam laid seom good shots into synn. of course synn>>BA, but so is thanos, so it proves nothing. synn likely shouldn't even BE on the list--not enough info known about him. sbp? who'd he defeat 1on1 that equals thanos? validus? best feats? mongul? best feats? fighting pre-c superman? whose OWN feats pre-c are both enormous AND terrible. putting pre-c people on the list is ALSO something that shouldn't happen. their feats are all over the map. and you need to remember that thanos has been UPGRADED since he battled odin, and in that battle he acquitted himself very well, and proved he can take one hell of a lot of damage. saying these guys all take him out is like saying these guys are damn near SKYFATHERS!

validus, mongul, sbp--they all take down darkseid? highfather? dc's zeus or dc's odin? cuz if they take thanos for a huge majority, and beat him down, THAT's the level you are putting them on. if you are, you're more cracked than even i thought . . .

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
No, not really. He's really not that powerful compared to some of the company he keeps.

"Amazo, Appolyon, The Asgardian Destroyer, Black Racer, Blackheart, Blaze, Circe, Count Abyss, Death Urge, Despero, The Doctor, Doomsday (H/P), Dr. Fate, Dr. Strange (classic), Eclipso, Elders of the Universe (minus Ego), Fernus, Gog, Gray Man, High Evolutionary, Ion (current), Jenny Quantum, The Keeper, King Thor, Magus (original), Mangog, Mongul I (Pre Crisis), Nightmare, Onimar Synn, Onslaught, Queen of Fables, Resurrection Man 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Silver Age Kryptonians/Daxamites, Solusandra, Stayne, Strange Visitor, Sun Eater, Superboy Prime, Superman 1 Million, Takion, Thanos, Tyrant (powered down), Validus"

Amazo, Asgardian Destroyer, Black Racer, Count Abyss, Circe at her best, H/P Doomsday, Classic Strange, Despero (depending on version) Gog, possibly the High E and Keeper, Classic Mongul, Onimar Synn, Res man 1M, Silver age kryptonians/daxamites, possibly Solusandra, Stayne, Sun Eater, SBP, Supes 1M, Takion, Tyrant and Validus

would all beat Thanos for a strong majority. And those are just the ones I know and am confident of.

Originally posted by Digi
Not to enter the sh*tstorm this inadvertently started, but I always saw Thanos as a charter member of this tier, but not its upper benchmark for power.

But I'll look into his showings to confirm this. A few websites are great for having all appearances. Then I'll make a decision on Tyrant.

...

Z and Atom Eve being added soon.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I'd agree except that like Tyrant, we haven't seen much in regards to what it would take to put Thanos down for the count. About the only guys who've came out of direct confrontations looking better before his last upgrade was Tyrant and Odin, and neither of them had anywhere close to an easy battle with him. And after his upgrade the only one to chump him(aside from the Plot Device known as Drax) was a well fed Galactus, and that was after Thanos nearly took him out astrally and went on to blow G some distance out the side of his ship. He easily qualifies as a low end skyfather IMO given some of the low end showings of guys like Zeus and Mephisto. I mean don't get me wrong because I know how the list works so I'm not really trying to get the Titian removed, I just figured I'd give my reasoning behind my earlier statements about the Mad Titan.

yeah, there are VERY few on that list who i'd say could take a healthy majority from thanos, and NONE who he wouldn't make work really REALLY hard for it.

Originally posted by leonidas
and your inability to see past your dislike of thanos colours everything you have to say regarding him. again, the burden of proof falls to you. adam laid seom good shots into synn. of course synn>>BA, but so is thanos, so it proves nothing. synn likely shouldn't even BE on the list--not enough info known about him. sbp? who'd he defeat 1on1 that equals thanos? validus? best feats? mongul? best feats? fighting pre-c superman? whose OWN feats pre-c are both enormous AND terrible. putting pre-c people on the list is ALSO something that shouldn't happen. their feats are all over the map. and you need to remember that thanos has been UPGRADED since he battled odin, and in that battle he acquitted himself very well, and proved he can take one hell of a lot of damage. saying these guys all take him out is like saying these guys are damn near SKYFATHERS!

validus, mongul, sbp--they all take down darkseid? highfather? dc's zeus or dc's odin? cuz if they take thanos for a huge majority, and beat him down, THAT's the level you are putting them on. if you are, you're more cracked than even i thought . . .

I wouldn't give Thanos the majority over any skyfather. Superboy Prime? Honestly, most skyfathers would be very hard-pressed to stop him. Prime is just on another level. And yes, he might actually take down Darkseid in some circumstances. He's done things that are just plain impossible.

PC Validus, the only one who should be in trans? He's taken down the PC legion and taken damage that would have killed Thanos 10x over. It took 4 PC kryptonians just to BFR his ass. Mongul beat PC Superman and clobbered the JLA. PC Supes only beat him after a brutal knockdown dragout fight. As for Validus taking out Darkseid, ...............who do you think created him? 😬

You are making one assumption. That Odin was going all out. I do not believe so. All Thanos proved was that he is a tank. That he can take blows. He did nothing that actually hurt or held Odin back. He impressed him with his resilence and the fact that he made Odin fight him semi--seriously. But Odin was not going all out. He gave Thanos the chance to yield. Thanos has defense, but not enough firepower.

Few on that list? You're putting him way too high up. None who he wouldn't make work hard? Clearly you failed to notice Black Racer, the Destroyer, and half the people with superior feats to Thanos under his own power.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I wouldn't give Thanos the majority over any skyfather. Superboy Prime? Honestly, most skyfathers would be very hard-pressed to stop him. Prime is just on another level. And yes, he might actually take down Darkseid in some circumstances. He's done things that are just plain impossible.

i've already commented on prime. i see that match as pretty much a split.

PC Validus, the only one who should be in trans? He's taken down the PC legion and taken damage that would have killed Thanos 10x over. It took 4 PC kryptonians just to BFR his ass. Mongul beat PC Superman and clobbered the JLA. PC Supes only beat him after a brutal knockdown dragout fight. As for Validus taking out Darkseid, ...............who do you think created him? 😬

again, PC is vry inconsistent. just because it's "PC" does not necessarily mean that it was "better" or "more powerful". some feats are better, but PC guys have LOADS of low feats and inconsistent feats as well. at some point in the past i made of list of PC supes' LOW FEATS, and they were pretty funny. one quick and current example is green arrow using an exploding arrow to blow shaggy apart. PC=inconsistent.

You are making one assumption. That Odin was going all out. I do not believe so. All Thanos proved was that he is a tank. That he can take blows. He did nothing that actually hurt or held Odin back. He impressed him with his resilence and the fact that he made Odin fight him semi--seriously. But Odin was not going all out. He gave Thanos the chance to yield. Thanos has defense, but not enough firepower.

going all out, not going all out, whatever. a silly argument odin backers throw around. odin fought hard in that fight. did he go seth-level, or surtur level on thanos? probably not, but he was working for it. and even odin commented on the well of power thanos can draw from noting it was almost infinite.

Few on that list? You're putting him way too high up. None who he wouldn't make work hard? Clearly you failed to notice Black Racer, the Destroyer, and half the people with superior feats to Thanos under his own power.

i already commented on the destroyer and black racer in my original post, though frankly thanos's feats>destroyer's. my point stands--there are few who could take him on that last, and none of them do so easily.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Again Trick, that's a matter of opinion and there are plenty who disagree. Personally, I think it's ridiculous to assume that he's on the low end of the Trans list when Odin was unable to put him down for the count BEFORE his last upgrade(after which he took down the Maker and blew Galactus out the side of his ship).

These things impressed you?

I'm also not sure how great that supposed upgrade of his was.

Alright. Thanos isn't up for a move, so you're all going to take it elsewhere or will be receiving a warning. I've found that these things spiral if I don't take action, so I'm not leaving it to chance.

For Darkseid to mid herald.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
For Darkseid to mid herald.

lol again...

I changed my password, AGAIN. If it gets changed this time, someone is going to pay.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
For Darkseid to mid herald.

I would never say such a thing....

Darkseid to low herald.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
😐

I would never say such a thing....

Darkseid to low herald.

For Darksied to mid herald.

I'm this close to saying screw this forum and just leaving due to all the ****ing hacking.

Why so blue panda bear?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm this close to saying screw this forum and just leaving due to all the ****ing hacking.

well, that would make the teams in the tourney a little more even . . . 😖hifty:

on a slightly more serious note-there should be a minimum appearance limit in place in order for a character to be tiered. 😬

my personal opinion would be 12-15 appearances. less than that and appearances can vary too widely. we should have enough material at hand to make very educated opinions on placement. [insert jokes here]

Originally posted by leonidas
on a slightly more serious note-there should be a minimum appearance limit in place in order for a character to be tiered. 😬

my personal opinion would be 12-15 appearances. less than that and appearances can vary too widely. we should have enough material at hand to make very educated opinions on placement. [insert jokes here]

That's always been an unofficial rule anyway. We've removed a couple people on such grounds, and as soon as I get the chance I'm going to look more into Tyrant's appearances.

Making it a concrete number seems unecessary to me, though. But if you see someone that you think has too few, there's nothing wrong with bringing it up.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm this close to saying screw this forum and just leaving due to all the ****ing hacking.

Get some good spyware software, change your password often to be something obscure and difficult, and don't give it out. Despite their occasional bluster, no hacker can really overcome those things.

I'm against setting any rules in stone.

That would kind of undermine the whole purpose of the thread in my opinion.