9/11

in about 1 minute all of the americans on this website is going to hate me, and think i'm a total *******, which i'm not i actually know someone who's dad had to clean up the towers, and that brought him to retiring.

9/11
i know it was a terrible thing that happenned to america, the people died and everything, but america really needs to move on and accept it as past history like they did with Pearl Harbor, WW2, and WW1, all very horridable times, all milatary movements, and i think like PH, 9/11 was a milatary movement aswell, or just an act the government put up to use fear to help rule. anyway it is pretty much the only foriegn attack on america besides PH, and it's such a huge deal, it's like a city was taken out. in 6 years there as been 3 movies, almost as if somebody doesn't want anybody toforget those horridable moments, while PH has only had 2 or 3 movies in over 50 years. so what i wanna know why is 9/11 such a huge deal, so many things go on in europe everyday, you don't see them complaining and making movies about everysingle attack. and really casting nick cage in 9/11 is just awful he's a crapptacular actor, he prettymuch ruined skullrider (that and the storyline was extremely simple) and United 93 is a completly awful movie, trying to make a uge 2 and a half hour movie that lasted less time than that was crappy

I think you are being selfish about this. There are people who have lost loved ones; you can't ask them to forget.

i live in jersey, so 9/11 isnt some trend here. you dont have to look far to meet people who had lost someone then. in the face of world tragedy its not much at all, yet the shock and horror of it all is what amplified that tragedy.

PH was a military operation, and a sound one. 9/11 was the murder of 3000+ people, which was superficial to their plans. the real plan was an attempt to cripple our economy through fear. worked like a charm, since through fear we allow bush to cripple our economy for years to come. so while some will kneejerk and say it was simply terrorism and murder, i guess it can be argued that it was a military operation in the sense that it's sole intention was to cripple the nation, as opposed to just doing it to terrorise for the sake of making some point, or just killing people for the hell of it.

WTF do you know about 9/11? Seriously.

I'll let someone else bash you.

We live in different times. EVERYBODY saw 9-11. Only a relatively few saw Pearl Harbor.

And unfortunately, 9-11 has changed this administrations philosophy on how to govern the US. Until Bush is gone, don't expect to see ANY change. 9-11 has become a political/military event thats signaled a drastic change in American government...just LIKE Pearl Harbor...just like the Civil War. A little bit of comparative American History will show you that...there's nothing really to be all up in arms about imo.

Originally posted by The big EH
9/11
it's like a city was taken out.

It is something hard to forget and yes there were alot of people who dead.Building the twin towers again I think is a mistake.How they have it now is fine but not to put it up again.jm

proud to be a Canadian..

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As spectacular as it was, Americans have NO idea about what actual devastation is.

WHy do you say that?jm

Because 2 buildings and 3000 odd people is nothing. Americans need to look at things in perspective...however, they need to actually LEARN to have perspective first.

Originally posted by Alliance
As spectacular as it was, Americans have NO idea about what actual devastation is.

Yes, we are some what spoiled. I really don't want that to change.

Originally posted by Alliance
As spectacular as it was, Americans have NO idea about what actual devastation is.

im not trying to offend you or put you in a defensive stance, but that's a really stupid thing to say. everything is relative and to imply that it wasnt "actual devestation"....maybe you just worded it wrong and didnt mean to suggest that?

Being we are spoiled and many again did lose there love ones we were not ready for this.Sure it is not as bad as what happen in the past but we were not around then.
This to us was scary becaues no one ever had an idea what this would happen to us Americans.jm

Sorry, did I miss the collapse of the US?

People's personal lives were devastated, they are every day...this is nothing unique to 9-11. How is a terrorist flying a plane into your loved one personally that different froma drunk teen drving his car into another?

Two bulding being knocked down is not having a city destroyed...not having a contry destroyed.

The changes AFTER 9-11 came from within.

It's the American way not to give a flying fvck about anything outside their country, until of course it affects them.

if that was addressed to me, read again

Originally posted by Schecter
it's sole intention was to cripple the nation, as opposed to just doing it to terrorise for the sake of making some point, or just killing people for the hell of it.

nowhere do i suggest that they succeeded in this, but rather only succeded in making us blind with fear and allowing those in power to erode our freedom. in other words 9/11 kinda pussified us. we claim that we have never been braver and more resolute, but in actuallity we have never been so irrational and chickenshit.

alienating and openly bashing us doesnt help the situation though, and only bloats the problem.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
This to us was scary becaues no one ever had an idea what this would happen to us Americans.jm

haermm Yeah, because the SAME people hadn't attacked the SAME target before.

Just American ignorance.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
It's the American way not to give a flying fvck about anything outside their country, until of course it affects them.

That is a over generalization.

You mean a group of citizens are more affected by an event related to their country over someone elses?! Wow, I think you've stumbled on a fascinating scientific discovery!