9/11

Started by Schecter6 pages
Originally posted by Schecter

alienating and openly bashing us doesnt help the situation though, and only bloats the problem.
Originally posted by Alliance
Just American ignorance.

in fact it makes you a big part of the problem

And I suppose every other countries citizens are "aware?"

Drop that shit. It is media propaganda. Don't make assumptions on the people of an entire country because of what you get from the tube.

No different from the racist topics.

Its a lot easier to judge when you live here.

people seem to bask in the bashing and hatred of people simply because of where they are born. normally such an attitude is condemnable, yet in the case of bashing americans its simply being hip and aware.

(not aimed at alliance, i just know this thread is going to be filled with "stupid americans" comments and i figured i'd nip it in the bud)

Originally posted by Alliance
Its a lot easier to judge when you live here.

I agree but it's no excuse for these sweeping statements you keep making. I can grab idiots of any country, video tape, and air it. What does that prove?

I have lived there, can't think of anywhere I've lived that I've disliked more.

Its not bashing becuase of birth...its bashing because of attitude.

There is a pervasive..."It doesn't affect me" attitude when it comes to Americans and the world. i think that is what people actually complain about.

Originally posted by Alliance
Sorry, did I miss the collapse of the US?

People's personal lives were devastated, they are every day...this is nothing unique to 9-11. How is a terrorist flying a plane into your loved one personally that different froma drunk teen drving his car into another?

Two bulding being knocked down is not having a city destroyed...not having a contry destroyed.

The changes AFTER 9-11 came from within.


How is a terrorist flying a plane different from a drunk driver? Is this a serious question? One is a drunk idiot doing something stupid, another is a group of individuals causing willful and malicious destruction. That's why 9/11 is so horrible. There was no declared war, there was no inclination for the public, we just woke up one day, like ever other day, and found out that 3,000 people had just died.

If you seriously can't understand how 3,000 civilians being murdered on American soil, something that has never happened before, is so devastating, then you aren't even qualified to enter a discussion about 9/11. Everything is relative. Three American soldiers being shot in Iraq by insurgents isn't that surprising. Three American soldiers being shot in, say, Japan would be.

Originally posted by Alliance
Its not bashing becuase of birth...its bashing because of attitude.

There is a pervasive..."It doesn't affect me" attitude when it comes to Americans and the world. i think that is what people actually complain about.

I agree, but who doesn't do that as a majority?

Originally posted by Alliance
Its not bashing becuase of birth...its bashing because of attitude.

There is a pervasive..."It doesn't affect me" attitude when it comes to Americans and the world. i think that is what people actually complain about.

That is an over generalization. I think it's true for some of larger cities but not in other parts of the nation.

Originally posted by Alliance
Its not bashing becuase of birth...its bashing because of attitude.

i understand, but at the sime time you need to understand that your words support those who simply hate americans. comments like "oh, there are like 1% who are actually intelligent dont help either. the more the world acts like prejudicial scum the more it justifies the isolationism of our more 'special' citizens and further mistrust for the rest of the world.

Originally posted by Alliance
Its not bashing becuase of birth...its bashing because of attitude.

There is a pervasive..."It doesn't affect me" attitude when it comes to Americans and the world. i think that is what people actually complain about.

Yeah exactly, I think the rest of the world feel that the American attitude is that they are the only country worth the time of day. I'm not by any means saying that all Americans are like this.

It's also the whole thing about the fact that the countries that do seem to get concern are English speaking. There have been plenty of terrorist attacks on places like Spain and Bali which are ignored or brushed aside.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That is an over generalization. I think it's true for some of larger cities but not in other parts of the nation.

Comming from a larger city and going to school in a more rural area, thats completely the opposite.

Originally posted by Schecter
i understand, but at the sime time you need to understand that your words support those who simply hate americans. comments like "oh, there are like 1% who are actually intelligent dont help either. the more the world acts like prejudicial scum the more it justifies the isolationism of our more 'special' citizens and further mistrust for the rest of the world.

I would simply say that Americans do the same to them. How is reciprocating, though immature, any more prejudicial?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Yeah exactly, I think the rest of the world feel that the American attitude is that they are the only country worth the time of day. I'm not by any means saying that all Americans are like this.

yes you are. look:

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Yeah exactly, I think the rest of the world feel that the American attitude is that they are the only country worth the time of day.

Comming from a larger city and going to school in a more rural area, thats completely the opposite.

Americans from rural areas and poorer incomes usually give more to charity than their urban counterparts. I don't really know how else to guage how much someone 'cares' about others, but that's a good estimate, I think. Making, of course, your point moot.

Originally posted by Kinneary
Americans from rural areas and poorer incomes usually give more to charity than their urban counterparts. I don't really know how else to guage how much someone 'cares' about others, but that's a good estimate, I think. Making, of course, your point moot.

how exactly does your own heresay, based on nothing we can read or see, render his point moot?

Originally posted by Kinneary
Americans from rural areas and poorer incomes usually give more to charity than their urban counterparts. I don't really know how else to guage how much someone 'cares' about others, but that's a good estimate, I think. Making, of course, your point moot.
Since I was referenceing how much Americans care about non-Americans, I think your point about people donating to mostly American-focused charities is irrelevant.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Being we are spoiled and many again did lose there love ones we were not ready for this.Sure it is not as bad as what happen in the past but we were not around then.
This to us was scary becaues no one ever had an idea what this would happen to us Americans.jm
Yeah the country that raped almost half of Asia, half of Europe, the Natives and latinos of North and South America, African slaves, who do it for money but when they get attacked themself, they go all nucleur and bomb cities for no reason? Yeah, no one's ever gonna wanna attack that country are they?

Originally posted by Schecter
yes you are. look:

I think you've got the wrong end of the stick, I'm not condemning all Americans. What I'm saying is that this is how the American attitude as a collective can be viewed from the outside. It's not that all Americans act in this way; of course not, what I'm saying is that is how it can be perceived, which would be absurd. The point I'm making is that this has to be avoided, not, that I personally think all Americans act like this.

but you have to understand that saying that to an american is completely insulting. reminds me of the age old "compliment" to black people: "oh, your so clean and well spoken, not like most other black people. you're one of the good ones".