Originally posted by JesusIsAliveExactly! Then why is it that you don't look at the truth? The truth is that religion compounds its self on older stories. I'm just so confused on this. Why do people not research their beliefs? Are they scared? 😕
It is our own fault. We must take responsibility for our actions and not try and pass the buck.
Explain to me where the sun originated without using non-provable, non-verifiable, non-substantiating, and non-observable theories that violate the law of cause and effectdo the same for this god of yours
Your disobedience does not make your parents a failure does it?in fact it does they failed to make me an obediant kid
you decide to go out and kill someone then you are the one that will answer for that crime not your parents. You are the culprit in that scenario. Now, if your parents murdered people and taught you to do the same then you could argue that your parents contributed to your delinquency and behavior greatly.but then again its a difference between parents and a omnipotent deity, parents is flesh and blood and cant condemn you to damnation and hell for real. Parents made you through intercource, man is mad in gods image. Meaning man is a reflection of god, a constructed item a molded image, not the same with children though it takes two to make one and the kid inherent from both. In the biblical sence man is made from a single image thus should have gotten the idea from an omnipotent being that constructed them. The failure of this ommnipotent being is that its construction dont to obey
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Exactly! Then why is it that you don't look at the truth? The truth is that religion compounds its self on older stories. I'm just so confused on this. Why do people not research their beliefs? Are they scared? 😕
You have assumed that I have not done my due dilligence. I have researched my beliefs and I have found Jesus to be Who He said that He is.
Originally posted by AngryManatee
And what makes you think it's the voice of a god and not just a voice in your head?
I didn't say that I heard a voice in my head. I said that the God of the Bible told me in His Word. You see, believers (i.e. Christians) relate to God through His Word (i.e. the Scriptures). This is primarily how we interact with God. The second way is through prayer.
Originally posted by anaconda [/i]
do the same for this god of yours
But my premise is that God did it the way the Bible states that He did it. I am taking what God says by faith because no one was there to observe it happen. That is the difference between Templares and myself relative to creation. Templares does not accept what the Bible states concerning creation so I submitted a challenge to him to explain how the sun originated (apart from God).
in fact it does they failed to make me an obediant kid
God has given humans free will, but He will not violate it. All God would have had to do was remove free will from everyone and the problem would be solved. But God is love and He (apparently) desires that we obey Him from the heart, of our own free will. For example, do you want your significant other to love you because he/she has no other choice or would you prefer that he/she had a free will?
but then again its a difference between parents and a omnipotent deity, parents is flesh and blood and cant condemn you to damnation and hell for real. Parents made you through intercource, man is mad in gods image. Meaning man is a reflection of god, a constructed item a molded image, not the same with children though it takes two to make one and the kid inherent from both. In the biblical sence man is made from a single image thus should have gotten the idea from an omnipotent being that constructed them. The failure of this ommnipotent being is that its construction dont to obey
You are right, there is a difference between parents and God. I just used a natural, human example because this is all we as humans know (in terms of relationships). I disagree that God has failed. God could have forced us by dint of His omnipotence to obey Him. The fact that God does not do this shows that He must favor free will over human programming.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlivebesides HIS word and HE speaking to you, what other resources do you have.???
I asked Him to be the Lord of my life and I read His Book the Bible.
Many people read books on beliefs and feel they have a connection with something higher....just wondering. I'm not trying to belittle you.
Originally posted by Deja~vu
besides HIS word and HE speaking to you, what other resources do you have.???Many people read books on beliefs and feel they have a connection with something higher....just wondering. I'm not trying to belittle you.
God's Word (i.e. the Scriptures) is all that He has given for us to know Him. It is all that is necessary in order to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.
For example, if your parents wrote you a letter then went on a long vacation would you be looking for any other writing from them? That one letter would be all that you needed to know their will, desire, and heart for you right? Well, picture the Bible (all 66 books) as one giant letter from God to His creation (for each and every individual person).
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[b]God's Word (i.e. the Scriptures) is all that He has given for us to know Him. It is all that is necessary in order to have a relationship with God through Jesus Christ.For example, if your parents wrote you a letter then went on a long vacation would you be looking for any other writing from them? That one letter would be all that you needed to know their will, desire, and heart for you right? Well, picture the Bible (all 66 books) as one giant letter from God to His creation (for each and every individual person). [/B]
Then why are there other religions? The answer is simple: humans make religions to order their societies. Christianity is no different then any other religion. They are as equally right and equally wrong as any religion on the face of the Earth.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Then why are there other religions? The answer is simple: humans make religions to order their societies. Christianity is no different then any other religion. They are as equally right and equally wrong as any religion on the face of the Earth.
"Do not put other gods before me"...Is that gods? Is that anything that takes the place of god? Is it your time with god? If so, how much time and what is that? Is it your TV? Your spending? Where do you draw the line?
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Here's an interesting question..."Do not put other gods before me"...Is that gods? Is that anything that takes the place of god? Is it your time with god? If so, how much time and what is that? Is it your TV? Your spending? Where do you draw the line?
Or is the bible saying that all gods are real? Zeus would like that...
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I didn't say that I heard a voice in my head. I said that the God of the Bible told me [b]in His Word. You see, believers (i.e. Christians) relate to God through His Word (i.e. the Scriptures). This is primarily how we interact with God. The second way is through prayer. [/B]
hmm... there's that whole faith thing again...