Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
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I cannot talk to a link.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Ignorance means "to lack knowledge." Do you know how God has always been? No? Then you are ignorant--not dumb or stupid--just lacking knowledge about that phenomenon.
You're guess of a divine entity's origin is as good as mine, but to ignore knowledge that contradicts your beliefs is ignorant. If it was this frame of thought that prevailed, we might still consider the geocentric model of the universe to be so.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I see nothing new or compelling in your belief.
Well, there is a reason for that: First, my beliefs have not changed; hence, you see nothing new. Second, you have (perhaps) allowed yourself to become duped by the enemy into thinking that Christianity is something that should "work." That is not what faith in God is about as such. Knowing that God loves you and cares for you is what is paramount (although I will qualify this later).
Originally posted by AngryManatee
You're guess of a divine entity's origin is as good as mine, but to ignore knowledge that contradicts your beliefs is ignorant. If it was this frame of thought that prevailed, we might still consider the geocentric model of the universe to be so.
But, my affirmation is not a guess; it is founded on what I believe to be God's Word. The Bible is much more sure and verifiable than a guess. Just ask the archaeologists and other historians.
Originally posted by AngryManatee
Guess
Main Entry: 1guess
Pronunciation: \ˈges\
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English gessen, perhaps of Scandinavian origin; akin to Norwegian & Swedish gissa to guess, Middle Dutch gissen, gessen, Old Norse geta to get, guess — more at get
Date: 14th century
transitive verb
1 : to form an opinion of from little or no evidence
2 : believe, suppose <I guess you're right>
3 : to arrive at a correct conclusion about by conjecture, chance, or intuition <guess the answer>
intransitive verb
: to make a guess
— guess·able \ˈge-sə-bəl\ adjective
— guess·er noun
There is more evidence pointing to the Bible as being from God than there is evidence that it is not from God. But, it still must be accepted by faith.
There is more evidence pointing to the Bible as being from God than there is evidence that it is not from God. But, it still must be accepted by faith.
http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-God-Word.html
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Well, there is a reason for that: First, my beliefs have not changed; hence, you see nothing new. Second, you have (perhaps) allowed yourself to become duped by the enemy into thinking that Christianity is something that should "work." That is not what faith in God is about as such. Knowing that God loves you and cares for you is what is paramount (although I will qualify this later).
First, your beliefs seem to change based upon the difficulty of the question being asked.
Second, are you telling me that Christianity does not work?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There is more evidence pointing to the Bible as being from God than there is evidence that it is not from God. But, it still must be accepted by faith.http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-God-Word.html
Sorry but I stopped when it said the bible was scientifically accurate. Do you have any sources that are a little less biased and approach the subject with a little more neutrality?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Main Entry: 1guess
Pronunciation: \ˈges\
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English gessen, perhaps of Scandinavian origin; akin to Norwegian & Swedish gissa to guess, Middle Dutch gissen, gessen, Old Norse geta to get, guess — more at get
Date: 14th century
transitive verb
1 : to form an opinion of from little or no evidence
2 : believe, suppose <I guess you're right>
3 : to arrive at a correct conclusion about by conjecture, chance, or intuition <guess the answer>
intransitive verb
: to make a guess
— guess·able \ˈge-sə-bəl\ adjective
— guess·er nounThere is more evidence pointing to the Bible as being from God than there is evidence that it is not from God. But, it still must be accepted by faith.
There is no evidence for the god you are talking about, so to claim "there is more evidence pointing to the Bible as being from God than there is evidence that it is not from God", is illogical. You must first prove that the god of the bible is real before you can make any claims about that god, and that cannot be done.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is no evidence for the god you are talking about, so to claim "there is more evidence pointing to the Bible as being from God than there is evidence that it is not from God", is illogical. You must first prove that the god of the bible is real before you can make any claims about that god, and that cannot be done.
You must first prove that God does not exist.
I have told you repeatedly that evidence of God's existence is evinced in creation (i.e. all that exists). There is evidence pointing to God's existence but it must be arrived deductively because God is not visible. But just because God Himself is not viewable at the moment that does not mean that He does not exist. For example, just because you cannot see air, you can see evidence of its existence in its effect on other material things. Well, similarly, all life, and other material things show the effect of intelligent design. There is definite order and predictability in many things that we find in our universe. Scientists are able to make precise calculations using mathematics and instruments that are measured against objects in our solar system. I could go on but the point is that there is overwhelming proof of God's existence. Just because God doesn't show Himself is irrelevant. God has proven His existence through other means. Again, if this universe is so accidental and random, why doesn't any other planet exhibit all of the characeristics of earth? It is apparent that this planet was made to be inhabited--just like the Bible states.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlivePlease show me where in your Bible that says angles have free will. It is all over the Bible that man is God's greatest creation and was given the greatest gift of free will.
Have you ever rebelled against your parents? Have you ever rebelled against an established order or authority (even once)? Question: whose fault was it that you rebelled? Was it your parents fault or was it your fault? Angels do have free will, they are not automatons. Robots do what they are programmed to do. The very fact that lucifer was able to rebel explodes your claim that angels do not have a free will. The devil had to have a free will in order to rebel because if he did not then he could not have rebelled against God, his creator.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive😆
You must first prove that God does not exist.I have told you repeatedly that evidence of God's existence is evinced in creation (i.e. all that exists). There is evidence pointing to God's existence but it must be arrived deductively because God is not visible. But just because God Himself is not viewable at the moment that does not mean that He does not exist. For example, just because you cannot see air, you can see evidence of its existence in its effect on other material things. Well, similarly, all life, and other material things show the effect of intelligent design. There is definite order and predictability in many things that we find in our universe. Scientists are able to make precise calculations using mathematics and instruments that are measured against objects in our solar system. I could go on but the point is that there is overwhelming proof of God's existence. Just because God doesn't show Himself is irrelevant. God has proven His existence through other means. Again, if this universe is so accidental and random, why doesn't any other planet exhibit all of the characeristics of earth? It is apparent that [B]this
planet was made to be inhabited--just like the Bible states. [/B]
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
First, your beliefs seem to change based upon the difficulty of the question being asked.Second, are you telling me that Christianity does not work?
That is not the purpose. The term "work" in reference to the relationship with God that believers have through Jesus is a misapplied term. Does your relationship with your loved one (be it a person or animal) work? Can't you see the problem with this manner of thinking? There is nothing that is supposed to work as such. We have a relationship with God through Christ and all of the blessings that entails--that is it. There is no work in the sense that you mean it. Besides, the term does not apply.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
Please show me where in your Bible that says angles have free will. It is all over the Bible that man is God's greatest creation and was given the greatest gift of free will. 😆
The devil had to have a free will in order to rebel because if he did not then he could not have rebelled against God, his creator.
How can a person rebel if they do not have free will? The answer to your question is in your question. If I make an intelligent life without the capacity to disobey guess what Da Pittman: it won't disobey me. But if I give that same life free will, there is the possibility that it might rebel--because it has now been endowed witht the power to choose.
Do you follow me?
Besides, you do not accept the Bible so it would be pointless to furnish a Scriptural reference for you.