Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I think that it is quite amusing that God did all of this without a college education...wow.
So since you have a relationship with a god figure, you thereby inherit his understanding of everything? You posses the entire ocean of knowledge as opposed to a few spikes of it?
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveIt is your job to prove that it doesn't exist in the Bible.
What you said about free will and about satan is not in the Bible yet you talk about those things as though they were in the Bible.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveIt is your job to prove that it does.
How can you prove with all of this evidence for intelligent design [B]and order surrounding you that God does not exist? [/B]
Originally posted by AngryManatee
So since you have a relationship with a god figure, you thereby inherit his understanding of everything? You posses the entire ocean of knowledge as opposed to a few spikes of it?
Unfortunately, I do not inherit God's understanding of everything. But when I do get to finally see my Heavenly Father God, I will ask Him everything that I have always wanted to know about Him, life, etc. The Bible states that we (believers) see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known. I can't wait!
Originally posted by Da Pittman
It is your job to prove that it doesn't exist in the Bible. It is your job to prove that it does.
I have read the Bible from cover to cover: it does not exist in the Bible.
I don't have to prove anything. Remember: I believe the Bible and accept that its contents are true by faith.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Unfortunately, I do not inherit God's understanding of everything. But when I do get to finally see my Heavenly Father God, I will ask Him everything that I have always wanted to know about Him, life, etc. The Bible states that [B]we (believers) see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known. I can't wait! [/B]
You're deviating from my initial statement concerning you asking how someone can ignore all the "evidence" of intelligent design, which is why I stated that all one has to do is "pursue at least a Batchelor's degree in one of the fields that you argue about." In retrospect, one wouldn't really even need a degree, just a decent amount of knowledge on the subject.
Why is this? Answer: Intelligent design is pseudo-science.
Originally posted by AngryManatee
You're deviating from my initial statement concerning you asking how someone can ignore all the "evidence" of intelligent design, which is why I stated that all one has to do is "pursue at least a Batchelor's degree in one of the fields that you argue about." In retrospect, one wouldn't really even need a degree, just a decent amount of knowledge on the subject.
What does having a bachelors degree have to do with anything? A person could have 100 Phds in every discipline imaginable, and that still would not change the fact that this planet and universe are strong evidence for intelligent design as supported by the Bible, and not at all evidence for chance, random occurrence.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
This is just circular double talk. You are trying to make the word "religion" have two meanings, and it doesn't. Then you try to say that you are free, and that other "religions" have things you have to do, and somehow that makes them not free. I have news for you, there are things you have to do, like not sin and believe in Jesus, so you point is wrong.
I never said that other religions were not free (they are not but I did not say that is my point). I was making a distinction between the religions of the world and what believers have in Christ. We have a relationship with God (not religion). There is a big difference. A person does not have a relationship with God in Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, or any other religious system of beliefs. But they do have list of things that they must do everyday in order to attain some level of peace or nirvana. But that is not the case with those who are in Christ. The moment that we confess Jesus as Lord and believe in our heart that God has raised Jesus from the dead, we experience inner peace. This peace is lasting and remains forever because at that precise moment all of our sins have been paid for by Christ shed Blood on the cross.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But the relationship that believers have with God through Jesus Christ does not fit that characterization. There is nothing to work. See, if you have a religion then there is something to work. But believers understand that what we have in Christ is not a religion--but eternal life and freedom. To people who hold to semantics Christianity is a religion, but that is not how believers choose to describe the liberty that we have in Christ. In every "religion" (again excluding Christianity) there is a litany of things that must be done in order to achieve peace or oneness or nirvana etc. There is none of that in Christ. There is only life. Jesus did not come to bring religion, He came to this earth so that we might have life and have it more abundantly. This is God's will whether any of us experience it or not.Do you follow what I mean?
Originally posted by AngryManatee
You're deviating from my initial statement concerning you asking how someone can ignore all the "evidence" of intelligent design, which is why I stated that all one has to do is "pursue at least a Batchelor's degree in one of the fields that you argue about." In retrospect, one wouldn't really even need a degree, just a decent amount of knowledge on the subject.Why is this? Answer: Intelligent design is pseudo-science.
I don't know why is that?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
What does having a bachelors degree have to do with anything? A person could have 100 Phds in every discipline imaginable, and that still would not change the fact that this planet and universe are strong evidence for intelligent design as supported by the Bible, and not at all evidence for chance, random occurrence.
You keep saying the planet and the universe are strong evidence without saying how they are strong evidence. Do elaborate. This is where intelligence in certain fields comes into play, mind you. Is your evidence biological in nature? If so, does the majority of biological scientists agree with you? Is your evidence from a physical perspective? Do the majority of physicists agree with your views? etc. etc.
Originally posted by AngryManatee
You keep saying the planet and the universe are strong evidence without saying how they are strong evidence. Do elaborate. This is where intelligence in certain fields comes into play, mind you. Is your evidence biological in nature? If so, does the majority of biological scientists agree with you? Is your evidence from a physical perspective? Do the majority of physicists agree with your views? etc. etc.
It does not matter to me whether I have the validation of physicists or biologists. Understand this: it does not take all of this to see that we live in a created order, an ordained world. This is just plain common sense (not to call into question yours or anyone else's intelligence). There is no way apart from God to rationally explain how or even why humans, this planet, or this universe exist.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It does not matter to me whether I have the validation of physicists or biologists. Understand this: [B]it does not take all of this to see that we live in a created order, an ordained world. This is just plain common sense (not to call into question yours or anyone else's intelligence). There is no way apart from God to rationally explain how or even why humans, this planet, or this universe exist. [/B]
Wrong. God is about as rational an answer as me saying that a giant space-chode blew its load into a starchild's vag and that created our universe. Both cannot be proven. The difference between your knowledge and the knowledge of those physicists, biologists, chemists, etc. etc. is that their knowledge is beneficial to society. Yours is an easy answer to explain something that you have no decent understanding of. People like you will continue to spew out your useless information while physicists, biologists, chemists, etc. etc. will continue to expand humanity's spectrum of knowledge, which will continue to result in our further advancement in technology and also our understanding of the universe we live in. The ideas you preach will benifit no one, because they are merely answers to satisfy your conscience.