Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God has no beginning or end.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, the second law of thermodynamics substantiates the fact that all things tend toward entropy (i.e. disorder). This is a scientific fact. http://objectiveministries.org/creation/slot.htmlNo proof for entropy? Just look around, in fact just look in the mirror. Now, ask yourself: are you getting younger or older? Are you getting more life or using up life? Are you getting closer to the fountain of youth or closer to the grave. Entropy is a fact.
I don’t know why you still are using that link on thermodynamics, we have already shown that they are using false and flawed logic to explain their case. Their examples are so baseless it is laughable to say the least just as your example of entropy which is limited to say the least. Even you new link is just as bad as the other, where is the science to back his claim. He is only offering his opinion as he understands it, where is the research to prove that the laws are valid for creation? It is easy to twist words as I have shown with the “tea” example from your last site but 2 + 2 = 4 will always be the same.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveAnother uneducated post. Do you not believe that mass attracts mass, the larger the mass the greater that attraction? We have already proven that the universe is slowing down from the point of creation so I don’t know where you get this from?
Sure it has, the universe is still expanding at the rate that God spoke it into existence. Hubble’s Law confirms this fact.
Originally posted by Deja~vu
Where did god come from? Did it have a beginning and a philosophy?As an example of David. David had many wives and many concubines.........Is HE evil? No, hw was the love of gods eye...so in retrospect, god loves his behavior of many wives and concubines...
God does not approve of polygamy.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveAnd this is an assumption and your own personal opinion that sprits are not tied to the physical world, you have no evidence of this and not even your own Bible says anything about this as you have just said. So how do you know that spirits are timeless and not bound to the laws of the physical world?
I never said that. I said no [b]material thing can come from nothing (apart from God).I have told you a number of times that God has no beginning or end (i.e. God is eternal). God is the First Cause (which means that He is the uncaused Causer of all things). God is a Spirit and He is not subject to this world that He created. On the contrary, this world is subject to God. Please show me where is says that God is not bound to the laws of the physical world, that he has no beginning and no end.
The Scriptures do not reveal how our spirits are able to inhabit our physical bodies. [/B]
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveso god damns David, the apple his eye?
God does not approve of polygamy.
Originally posted by Da Pittman
So then you are wrong, something can come from nothing.
Something cannot come from nothing apart from God.
I don’t know why you still are using that link on thermodynamics, we have already shown that they are using false and flawed logic to explain their case. Their examples are so baseless it is laughable to say the least just as your example of entropy which is limited to say the least. Even you new link is just as bad as the other, where is the science to back his claim. He is only offering his opinion as he understands it, where is the research to prove that the laws are valid for creation? It is easy to twist words as I have shown with the “tea” example from your last site but 2 + 2 = 4 will always be the same.
What link? That was a different link. How are they baseless? It is a law so, it applies to creation as well. If it is good for the goose, it is good for the gander.
I haven’t seen any twisting of any words.
Another uneducated post. Do you not believe that mass attracts mass, the larger the mass the greater that attraction? We have already proven that the universe is slowing down from the point of creation so I don’t know where you get this from?
You have not proven that the universe is slowing down. Where is your research?
Originally posted by Da Pittman
And this is an assumption and your own personal opinion that sprits are not tied to the physical world, you have no evidence of this and not even your own Bible says anything about this as you have just said. So how do you know that spirits are timeless and not bound to the laws of the physical world?
You have coined your own terms. I have never said that "spirits are not tied to the physical world."
The Scriptures state categorically that God is eternal. Jesus even stated that He (i.e. Himself) is the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last. This means that God is the Beginning and End (i.e. eternal).
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, the second law of thermodynamics substantiates the fact that all things tend toward entropy (i.e. disorder). This is a scientific fact. http://objectiveministries.org/creation/slot.html
The universe is not a closed system. In the ultra-verse, there are millions of universes. Some are gaining order while other are increasing in disorder. This is why the information that falls into a block hole does not violate the second law of thermodynamics. If you understood the second law of thermodynamics, you would know this. Were does the information that falls into a black hole go? If the information is lost from this universe, then the second law of thermodynamics is not true. The only way to solves this dilemma is to say that there are other universe.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No proof for entropy? Just look around, in fact just look in the mirror. Now, ask yourself: are you getting younger or older? Are you getting more life or using up life? Are you getting closer to the fountain of youth or closer to the grave. Entropy is a fact.
The universe is not a closed system. That is the answer to your question. Simply put, you have it all wrong.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You have not shown me why this is not a fact.
I am not into playing this game with you. Anyone can go back and read for themselves; they will be your judge.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
How?
See above…
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No comment.
So you don’t believe in education?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No comment.
…But you will.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But, karma is [b]not change. [/B]
They do not teach you Karma in Sunday school and Karma is never in the bible. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude you do not have a real understanding of what Karma is or is not. On the other hand, I am a practicing Buddhist. Karma is part of my religion.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Not karma.No, the Merriam-Websters online dictionary defines change as: [b]CHANGE implies making either an essential difference often amounting to a loss of original identity or a substitution of one thing for another.
That does not sound like karma to me. [/B]
So, you looked up the word change to see if it have a reference to a religious? I praise you on your research skills. Now I know, for a fact, that you have never done a research paper.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No comment.
Why no comment? Are you afraid? Can you not handle the truth?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Sure it has, the universe is still expanding at the rate that God spoke it into existence. Hubble’s Law confirms this fact.
How can “spoke” have a rate? Do you mean the measure? So we can figure out how fast god talked by measuring the expansion of the universe?
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveWe as in the people of this world that you seem not be apart of. 😉 You haven’t proven that the universe is still expanding, so pony up. Nice dodge of the God question again, I give up because there is no point in that question since you will not give me a straight answer.
Something cannot come from nothing apart from God.What link? That was a different link. How are they baseless? It is a law so, it applies to creation as well. If it is good for the goose, it is good for the gander.
I haven’t seen any twisting of any words.
You have not proven that the universe is slowing down. Where is your research?
You are still trying to use the thermodynamics to prove your point and I have already shown you how they are twisting the words, did you not read my posts or are you ignoring me again like you always do. We is the math or the formulas in either of your links to show that their theory is correct? The “tea” argument is BS, tea doesn’t start out hot. Iron will stay iron for all time in a vacuum; it only changes with the introduction of other elements. These are the example of how your links and their logic is twisting to try and prove their point; they show no math other wise such as 2 + 2 = 4. It is simple as that.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveThere is a book that would exchange our words? Would it also exchange our hearts?
No, not good. The Bible records many events, the good, the bad, and the ugly. But this does not mean that God approved of anything bad or sinful.
read us sooooooo so to speak..........hmm
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveThe beginning and the end doesn’t mean that he is eternal just that he was there at the start and will be there at the end. How does that make him eternal? If I made an ant farm so I was there at the beginning, then I destroy the ant farm so I was at the end so does that make me the alpha and the omega too?
You have coined your own terms. I have never said that "spirits are not tied to the physical world."The Scriptures state categorically that God is eternal. Jesus even stated that He (i.e. Himself) is the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last. This means that God is the Beginning and End (i.e. eternal).
Originally posted by Da Pittman
The beginning and the end doesn’t mean that he is eternal just that he was there at the start and will be there at the end. How does that make him eternal? If I made an ant farm so I was there at the beginning, then I destroy the ant farm so I was at the end so does that make me the alpha and the omega too?
Try not to cherry pick. I wrote that the Scriptures state that God is eternal. This is in addition to stating that God is the Beginning and the End.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
[B]The universe is not a closed system. In the ultra-verse, there are millions of universes. Some are gaining order while other are increasing in disorder. This is why the information that falls into a block hole does not violate the second law of thermodynamics. If you understood the second law of thermodynamics, you would know this. Were does the information that falls into a black hole go? If the information is lost from this universe, then the second law of thermodynamics is not true. The only way to solves this dilemma is to say that there are other universe.
Prove that the universe is not a closed system.
But the information is not lost.
http://www.uark.edu/~cdm/creation/universeorigin.htm
The universe is not a closed system. That is the answer to your question. Simply put, you have it all wrong.
Prove that the universe is not a closed system.
Telling me over and over that the universe is not a closed system does not substantiate your claim.
I am not into playing this game with you. Anyone can go back and read for themselves; they will be your judge.
No comment.
See above…
No comment.
So you don’t believe in education?
Sure I do.
…But you will.
I will…what?
They do not teach you Karma in Sunday school and Karma is never in the bible. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude you do not have a real understanding of what Karma is or is not. On the other hand, I am a practicing Buddhist. Karma is part of my religion.
I know that karma is not change.
So, you looked up the word change to see if it have a reference to a religious? I praise you on your research skills. Now I know, for a fact, that you have never done a research paper.
No, you asked me what was change to me, and I responded with what I believe change is, as defined by Merriam-Websters online dictionary.
Why no comment? Are you afraid? Can you not handle the truth?
I will not argue with personal opinion.
How can “spoke” have a rate? Do you mean the measure? So we can figure out how fast god talked by measuring the expansion of the universe?
I mean God spoke and matter, energy, and time-space became. They are moving (or expanding at the same velocity or rate that they were created through words).
Hubble's Law confirms the universe expansion aspect of this.