Can you handle the Truth?

Started by JesusIsAlive432 pages
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, the god of the bible looks like an animal? Humans are animals, you silly Hominid.

No, the essence of your three-fold nature is "spirit" just like God.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
...The fact that God is the Creator is sufficient proof that God is uncreated. This is common sense...

This is not common sense; this is circular logic.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, the essence of your three-fold nature is "spirit" just like God.

I wish you would learn about what you are talking about. The three-fold nature, as you call it, is not a spirit or a god. 🙄

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
How?
Guess you didn't read the link then. 😉

When did you decide that the expanding universe was proof of your idea of creationism? Since this is only a recent discovery I find that it is hard to believe this was any type of foundation? If what the link says is true based on the religious science in the link then Hubble would be incorrect and his math flawed. As a side note that the universe is still expanding by one theory doesn’t mean that it will always expand, just as you look at a car accelerating you will see its speed increases for the very brief instance you looked at it. The car will eventually run out the fuel that propels it then slow down and coast, it will then be subject to external forces that were weaker than the energy used to propel the car.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It does not matter what you believe or don't believe. You are a spirit just like God because you have been created in His image and likeness. However, other objects and creatures and organisms are not spirits. Trees are not spirits or souls.

"It does not matter what you believe or don't believe." You sound like an extremist.

If what I believe does not matter, then what you believe does not matter. I do not have to believe your silly beliefs, and you have not convinced me. As a matter of fact, you strengthen my faith in Buddhism. You are a constant reminder of the church I left. Thank you...

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
My point is that the universe is a closed system.

Yes I did post that God is eternal, I just did not use Scripture reference because whenever I do that you start complaining. But trust me, the Bible does state that God is eternal.

The fact that God is the Creator is sufficient proof that God is uncreated. This is common sense.

I have answered your specious question numerous times.

You have not answered my question numerous of times, you have stated that you were trying to prove a point to me so how is that answering my question? Please show me the post that answered my question, I may have missed this even though I have gone back through the pages of your replies and only see where you were trying to make a point.

That God is the creator is not sufficient proof that he is eternal, only to us would that make him eternal.

Please show me how the universe is a closed system? If as you want to say Hubble is correct and the universe is expanding at an increased rate then that would be a contradiction to a closed system. The very presence of God would mean that it is not a closed system, and unlimited power source that can do any thing it wishes. If it is a closed system then how is the universe still expanding according to you? Are not stars still being formed? Are not galaxies being destroyed and recreated? All of these things we can see and view.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
You have not answered my question numerous of times, you have stated that you were trying to prove a point to me so how is that answering my question? Please show me the post that answered my question, I may have missed this even though I have gone back through the pages of your replies and only see where you were trying to make a point.

That God is the creator is not sufficient proof that he is eternal, only to us would that make him eternal.

Please show me how the universe is a closed system? If as you want to say Hubble is correct and the universe is expanding at an increased rate then that would be a contradiction to a closed system. The very presence of God would mean that it is not a closed system, and unlimited power source that can do any thing it wishes. If it is a closed system then how is the universe still expanding according to you? Are not stars still being formed? Are not galaxies being destroyed and recreated? All of these things we can see and view.

And he will not answer your question in a way you can recognize.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And he will not answer your question in a way you can recognize.
I know, its worth the try 😛

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I know, its worth the try 😛

Almost... 😉

I think all that really happens is that he pisses off the nice Christians, like Grand_Moff_Gav. 😆 That alone is worth it.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I do not believe in an invisible ghost that inhabits my body. I am a coop of trillions of living cells that all work together. The whole is greater then the sum of the parts, but that happens to trees, cats, and nonliving things like rocks and orchestras. If this whole that is greater then the parts is the soul, then that would be fine, but that is not what Christians are talking about.

Reincarnation is a simple model that tries to describe the connection between the past present and the future. However, the past and future are illusions, and now is all the exists. The now of the past is the same now as the now of the future. I am the incarnation of my entity that lives in the now. Past, present and future lives can be described as flowers on a tree. The bud turns into a flower and then dies, but the tree lives on.

What? But what? Reincarnation means your soul returns to this world in another physical body.

How can you call yourself a Buddhist if you don't believe in the soul or reincarnation? The answer is: you're another one of those White Americans who arbitrarily decided to call themself "Buddhist" because the Eight-Fold Path sounded cool and different, yet don't really practise or know anything about the religion.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
What? But what? Reincarnation means your soul returns to this world in another physical body.

How can you call yourself a Buddhist if you don't believe in the soul or reincarnation? The answer is: you're another one of those White Americans who arbitrarily decided to call themself "Buddhist" because the Eight-Fold Path sounded cool and different, yet don't really practise or know anything about the religion.

The words "reincarnation" and "soul" are not even found in the Soka Gakkai Dictionary of Buddhism.

http://www.sgilibrary.org/list_dict.php?list=r
http://www.sgilibrary.org/list_dict.php?list=s

...Look for yourself.

It is not a requirement to believe in a soul or reincarnation in SGI, because we are a practical application of Buddhism in everyday life. The ideas of soul and or reincarnation do not lead to happiness.

Nichiren did believe in reincarnation , but never knew anything about a soul because he was never introduced to Christianity. Buddha never talked about reincarnation or a soul, as far as I know.

You're like Super Buddhist, aren't you. 😇

Originally posted by Shakyamunison

Nichiren did believe in reincarnation , but never knew anything about a soul because he was never introduced to Christianity. Buddha never talked about reincarnation or a soul, as far as I know.

The concept of souls isn't unique to Chrisitianity, so he didn't have to know anything about Christianity to know about souls.

And if he didn't believe in souls, what part of you did he believe got reincarnated?

Originally posted by Deja~vu
You're like Super Buddhist, aren't you. 😇
😆

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The concept of souls isn't unique to Chrisitianity, so he didn't have to know anything about Christianity to know about souls.

And if he didn't believe in souls, what part of you did he believe got reincarnated?

I don't know who "he" is in your post. Do you mean the historical Buddha?

If you are talking about Buddha, then I don't think he talked about that.

I personally do not believe in reincarnation, but I believe in Simultaneous Incarnation. However, most people do not know what Simultaneous Incarnation is, so I make it simple and say reincarnation.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
😆
Can you find one with a superman cape? 😛

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't know who "he" is in your post. Do you mean the historical Buddha?

If you are talking about Buddha, then I don't think he talked about that.

I personally do not believe in reincarnation, but I believe in Simultaneous Incarnation. However, most people do not know what Simultaneous Incarnation is, so I make it simple and say reincarnation.

I meant Nichiren.

And like I said; souls aren't unique to Chrisitanity.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I meant Nichiren.

And like I said; souls aren't unique to Chrisitanity.

Here is a site for you to look at.

http://www.sgilibrary.org/writings.php

Ok, JIA. But I was looking for a response from you yourself.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Ok, JIA. But I was looking for a response from you yourself.

Oh! I don't believe in a soul.