Islam and Christianity
The Koran vs. The Bible
A Comparison of the Christian Scriptures with the Teachings of Muhammad
Copyright © 2001 Diane S. Dew
http://www.dianedew.com/islam.htm
The Bible and Qu'ran did not originate from the same divine Source. This is more proof that YHWH and Allah are not one and the same. More contradictions below:
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Repeating a statement does not make that declaration true.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAHHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! So says the guy who repeats everything (often Jack T. Chick propoganda) via ad nauseam. "Jesus blah, blah, blah!"
Anyhow, I realize now that you do now realize that Muslims worship the same God; just hold different viewpoints, so it must be exceptionally hard for you to accept sharing something that you not only hold as being rightfully yours by some skewed view, but sharing it with a group of people you fear/dislike. I pity you.
Originally posted by Robtard
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAHHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! So says the guy who repeats everything (often Jack T. Chick propoganda) via ad nauseam. "Jesus blah, blah, blah!"Anyhow, I realize now that you do now realize that Muslims worship the same God, just hold different views, so it must be hard for you to accept sharing something that you not only hold as being rightfully yours by some skewed view, but sharing it with a group of people you fear/dislike. I pity you.
I finally get it...you have no intention of supporting your claims.
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Originally posted by Robtard
The facts that support what I said have been laid out repeatedly by myself and others, your refusual to asknowledge facts is irrelevant.Your irrational fear of Islam and your greed to have God served only your way is blinding you.
You have repeatedly stated your opinions, but you have not supported any of it with facts.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Surah 4:171 O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.
Surah 6:101 The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things ?
Surah 18:4,5 And to warn those who say: Allah hath chosen a son, (A thing) whereof they have no knowledge, nor (had) their fathers, Dreadful is the word that cometh out of their mouths. They speak naught but a lie.
Surah 23:91 Allah hath not chosen any son, nor is there any god along with Him; else would each god have assuredly championed that which he created, and some of them would assuredly have overcome others. Glorified be Allah above all that they allege.
Unlike YHWH--the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob i.e. the God of the Bible--Allah does not have a son. In fact, Allah has no children. The God of the Bible (i.e. YHWH) desires to make all people His children by adoption through faith in His Son Jesus Christ. Therefore, based on these Qu'ranic references it is clear that Allah does not seek to know his creation on a personal level (he doesn't even have a son). Again, the God of the Bible (YHWH) has a Son, but Allah does not.
2 Corinthians 6:17-18
17 Therefore
Come out from among them
And be separate, says the Lord.
Do not touch what is unclean,
And I will receive you.”
18 “ I will be a Father to you,
And you shall be My sons and daughters,
Says the LORD Almighty.”
John 1:12
12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name:
Romans 8:14-16
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of bondage again to fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, “Abba, Father.” 16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,
In Islam, this issue is clear, logical, and rational. In Islam, Allah is one. Allah has no son. Allah does not kill. A person is not saved by God's killing another person.Allah shows us the right path and the wrong path through the Holy Qur’an; our responsibility is to choose either path; each one of us is saved or doomed according to his choice ,and according to his deeds.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[b]Surah 4:171 O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three" - Cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.Surah 6:101 The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things ?
Surah 18:4,5 And to warn those who say: Allah hath chosen a son, (A thing) whereof they have no knowledge, nor (had) their fathers, Dreadful is the word that cometh out of their mouths. They speak naught but a lie.
Surah 23:91 Allah hath not chosen any son, nor is there any god along with Him; else would each god have assuredly championed that which he created, and some of them would assuredly have overcome others. Glorified be Allah above all that they allege.
Unlike YHWH--the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob i.e. the God of the Bible--Allah does not have a son. In fact, Allah has no children. The God of the Bible (i.e. YHWH) desires to make all people His children by adoption through faith in His Son Jesus Christ. Therefore, based on these Qu'ranic references it is clear that Allah does not seek to know his creation on a personal level (he doesn't even have a son). Again, the God of the Bible (YHWH) has a Son, but Allah does not.
I'm not really one to defend the validity of either fairytale, but I don't see it that way at all. It sounds to me like they don't think god needs to come down to Earth and play with the kiddies because if he knows all and is all he knows everything on every level; personally and otherwise.
Originally posted by Devil King
I'm not really one to defend the validity of either fairytale, but I don't see it that way at all. It sounds to me like they don't think god needs to come down to Earth and play with the kiddies because if he knows all and is all he knows everything on every level; personally and otherwise.
Just can't stop belittling everything you don't believe in... While Jesus was "playing with the kiddies," he was preaching God's word and preparing himself to die in place of the kiddies. It's the only religion that focuses on God's attempts to be close to us rather than the other way around. Whether you believe that or not, it is worth respecting.
JIA, I don't think we've ever spoken, but the other religions that do not believe in Jesus as the Son of God still believe their God wants a personal, close relationship with them. I'm sure if you look into Islam a little more or talk to some Muslims here or elsewhere, they would be happy to share with you how they connect with God, or at least feel connected to God. The Muslims I know believe Allah plays such a big part in their lives, it's impossible to determine that they do not feel a strong connection.
Originally posted by willofthewisp
Just can't stop belittling everything you don't believe in... While Jesus was "playing with the kiddies," he was preaching God's word and preparing himself to die in place of the kiddies. It's the only religion that focuses on God's attempts to be close to us rather than the other way around. Whether you believe that or not, it is worth respecting.
HAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAHHaaa.
So you've studied all other religions and they all said this?
I always love the "my religion is better than yours" attitude, especially from those ignorant in religion.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]Islam and Christianity
The Koran vs. The BibleA Comparison of the Christian Scriptures with the Teachings of Muhammad
Copyright © 2001 Diane S. Dew
http://www.dianedew.com/islam.htm
The Bible and Qu'ran did not originate from the same divine Source. This is more proof that YHWH and Allah are not one and the same. More contradictions below:
However, they both did originate from the same source; humans. And this is more proof that YHWH and Allah are both man made.
Originally posted by Robtard
HAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAHHaaa.So you've studied all other religions and they all said this?
I always love the "my religion is better than yours" attitude, especially from those ignorant in religion.
Prove me wrong. And no one said any religion was better. I was saying what made Christianity unique.
Originally posted by willofthewisp
Just can't stop belittling everything you don't believe in... While Jesus was "playing with the kiddies," he was preaching God's word and preparing himself to die in place of the kiddies. It's the only religion that focuses on God's attempts to be close to us rather than the other way around. Whether you believe that or not, it is worth respecting.JIA, I don't think we've ever spoken, but the other religions that do not believe in Jesus as the Son of God still believe their God wants a personal, close relationship with them. I'm sure if you look into Islam a little more or talk to some Muslims here or elsewhere, they would be happy to share with you how they connect with God, or at least feel connected to God. The Muslims I know believe Allah plays such a big part in their lives, it's impossible to determine that they do not feel a strong connection.
I respect what Jesus said. I don't respect the religion that human beings have built around it, all the while adding to it and redefining his words and twisting his intentions and using them to condemn everyone who isn't exactly what they need them to be. This is the case for Islam as well.
As for belittling, which is more belittling; thinking you have absolute truth on your side and assuming I have some hidden hunger that needs to be sated with that truth or pointing out the misguided and hypocritical beliefs that fuel that assumption? And don't worry, I don't have anything nice to say about Islam either.
Originally posted by willofthewisp
It's the only religion [Christianity] that focuses on God's attempts to be close to us rather than the other way around.other religions that do not believe in Jesus as the Son of God still believe their God wants a personal, close relationship with them.
So, which one is it? Or are you saying it's what "they" believe because they aren't christians and the god you share doesn't really want a close relationship with them? Either way, that strikes me as a contradiction.