JIA,
You're beyond reason and beyond hope. Also, you claiming "the Bible proves God, blah, blah, blah" is a fallacy. The Bible (Qu'ran too) does not prove anything, if it did, religion wouldn't be faith based. They're two different interpretations of the concept of God, the same God, the God that was carjacked from the Jews.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I didn't violate it because it doesn't apply. Remember Adam's example earlier? Two people witness the same car accident and their stories aren't identical, but that doesn't mean that they didn't see the same event. The Bible and the Koran are like two police reports that agree on approx. 85% percent of things.Now you said that God according to the Koran cannot know his creation or understand what fatherhood is like. But if he is all knowing, then yes, he knows. That obliterates your claim, and the Suras you quoted didn't do anything. The concept of omnipotence is very hard to understand.
Do you follow me JIA?
Jesus Himself stated that He is the Son of the Blessed (i.e. the Son of God) when asked point blank by the high priest. The Bible is replete with Scriptures that prove that God is triune. The Bible preceded the Qur'an by hundreds of years and, hence, never relies on it for doctrine, teaching, or instruction in righteousness. But the Qur'an derives all of its Judeo - Christian concepts from the Bible. It attempts to mimic the Bible but fails miserably because it is not given by inspiration of God (YHWH). I am not sure you understand what a contradiction is. The Qur'an does not complement the Bible and is not remotely related to it. The Qur'an is the work of the enemy (i.e. satan) and he has set out to lead many astray with its deception and spurious authenticity. But the truthful lip shall be established. Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. The writers of the Qur'an shall be rewarded according to their works as the Bible promises.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus Himself stated that He is the Son of the Blessed (i.e. the Son of God) when asked point blank by the high priest. The Bible is replete with Scriptures that prove that God is triune. The Bible preceded the Qur'an by hundreds of years and, hence, never relies on it for doctrine, teaching, or instruction in righteousness. But the Qur'an derives all of its Judeo - Christian concepts from the Bible. It attempts to mimic the Bible but fails miserably because it is not given by inspiration of God (YHWH). I am not sure you understand what a contradiction is. The Qur'an does not complement the Bible and is not remotely related to it. The Qur'an is the work of the enemy (i.e. satan) and he has set out to lead many astray with its deception and spurious authenticity. But the truthful lip shall be established. Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. The writers of the Qur'an shall be rewarded according to their works as the Bible promises.
The Koran says numerous times that Satan is the manifest foe of all humanity. So the one who wrote it and wants us to worship him, is also saying he's the sworn enemy of mankind? Smart, JIA.
They are related, in fact very much so, which is something Bible Thumpers like you really hate. You hate the fact that it boldly disclaims the divinity of Jesus. You're no different than the European knights who rode into the desert a thousand years ago.
Originally posted by Robtard
JIA,You're beyond reason and beyond hope. Also, you claiming "the Bible proves God, blah, blah, blah" is a fallacy. The Bible (Qu'ran too) does not prove anything, if it did, religion wouldn't be faith based. They're two different interpretations of the concept of God, the same God, the God that was carjacked from the Jews.
The Bible is my compass, my map, and my guide. That is why God (YHWH) gave it to me so that I would no longer be a child, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting. This is why I will not be duped by the enemy because I stay close to God (YHWH) by staying close to His Word. Jesus would not allow Himself to be deceived because He knew the Scriptures. Everytime the devil attempted to entice Jesus with temptation, Jesus spoke the Word of God to him and foiled, thwarted, and defeated satan in each encounter. I endeavor to do the same. I continue to rely on the Word of God in all matters that pertain to doctrine. I will not be deceived. I know that YHWH and Allah are not one and the same because the Word of God proves it.
Originally posted by Robtard
Hahahahaaa... Didn't I call it a few pages back? Illogical fear of Islam.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
They are related, in fact very much so, which is something Bible Thumpers like you really hate. You hate the fact that it boldly disclaims the divinity of Jesus. You're no different than the European knights who rode into the desert a thousand years ago.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The Koran says numerous times that Satan is the manifest foe of all humanity. So the one who wrote it and wants us to worship him, is also saying he's the sworn enemy of mankind? Smart, JIA.They are related, in fact very much so, which is something Bible Thumpers like you really hate. You hate the fact that it boldy disclaims the divinity of Jesus. You're no different than the European knights who rode into the desert a thousand years ago.
That is the deception at work. The devil is wiley enough to devise his bible (i.e. the Qur'an) and give it a semblance of authenticity. Do you realize that the devil is the father of lies? He has the ability to deceive on a grand scale; it is his claim to fame and his forte. He keeps unbelievers blind to their spiritual condition through deception.
The only thing I hate is sin, satan, and his lies because of what it does to people.
You are correct, I hate that the Qur'an falsely denies the deity of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the Son of God and you will see Him coming with clouds.
Mark 14:62
Jesus said, “I am. And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.â€
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I do not mean that in a disrespectful way. I apologize if it comes off that way.
That apology might come off as terribly self-depricating in your mind. But, to me, it sounds like self-serving apologetics. (As though there is any other kind)
See, I'm certain of my ability and intellect, which is inherently arrogant. The problem for you with my perspective is that I expect the same from you. But at every turn you demonstrate the opposite.
How about your response to this post be what you find "hard to swallow" about your own religion, rather than what you seem to willingly swallow without a hint of personal though? Certainly if Mother Theresa could do it you can too? What issues, if any, do you have with your own faith? What questions must keep you up at night; what leaps in logic between scripture and your faith make you wonder? Or will you disappear for a few days until my question is forgotten by most of the people participating in this thread?
Originally posted by Robtard
Hahahahaaa... Didn't I call it a few pages back? Illogical fear of Islam.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The Bible is my compass, my map, and my guide. That is why God (YHWH) gave it to me so that I would no longer be a child, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting. This is why I will not be duped by the enemy because I stay close to God (YHWH) by staying close to His Word. Jesus would not allow Himself to be deceived because He knew the Scriptures. Everytime the devil attempted to entice Jesus with temptation, Jesus spoke the Word of God to him and foiled, thwarted, and defeated satan in each encounter. I endeavor to do the same. I continue to rely on the Word of God in all matters that pertain to doctrine. I will not be deceived. I know that YHWH and Allah are not one and the same because the Word of God proves it.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You realize that re-posting that post, which was nothing more than a sputtering of your faith in a certain denomination, doesn't factually disprove your illogical fear of Islam, which you clearly showed earlier, right?
In short:
J: Islam is the work of Satan.
R: You have an irrational fear of Islam.
J: But I love Jesus.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
That is the deception at work. The devil is wiley enough to devise his bible (i.e. the Qur'an) and give it a semblance of authenticity. Do you realize that the devil is the father of lies? He has the ability to deceive on a grand scale; it is his claim to fame and his forte. He keeps unbelievers blind to their spiritual condition through deception.The only thing I hate is sin, satan, and his lies because of what it does to people.
You are correct, I hate that the Qur'an falsely denies the deity of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the Son of God and you will see Him coming with clouds.
[b]Mark 14:62
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Jesus said, “I am. And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.â€
So that's the deception? He's the father of lies, and the best he can manage is being a double agent? He's gotta be wilier than that. If you think being a transparent two-face is the apex of the father of lies, then it sounds like you decided on that after seeing the Emperor in Revenge of the Sith.
You're hatred is irrational, and probably media-inspired.
He should probably hate Hindusim too, doesn't it mention Jesus and he isn't 'God who died for our sins etc.'?
Then again, they've never been labled "evil-doers".
Edit: I was wrong.
So, basically God cast Satan out of Heaven because he sought to rule that reality and God decided to cast him out to rule His own creation? Sounds kind of self-defeating. Surely there was a corner of reality that Satan could have been sent to that didn't involve God apparently serving up his own "children" as fodder for their own personal, selfish conflict. I mean, being all-powerful and all-knowing and all?
Are we sure "God" isn't a cast member on the Two Coreys or the Real World?
Originally posted by Robtard
You realize that re-posting that post, which was nothing more than a sputtering of your faith in a certain denomination, doesn't factually disprove your illogical fear of Islam, which you clearly showed earlier, right?In short:
J: Islam is the work of Satan.
R: You have an irrational fear of Islam.
J: But I love Jesus.
J: Islam is the work of Satan. Check.
R: You have an irrational fear of Islam. Uh...what happened here? Nope, no fear just don't agree with it.
J: But I love Jesus. Check.