Can you handle the Truth?

Started by JesusIsAlive432 pages

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
[b]There is no compulsion in religion.
The Koran 2:256

Tell them: "You go and have your religion, and I shall have mine".
The Koran 109:6 [/B]

There is no compulsion in religion.

There is in Islam. http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm

Tell them: "You go and have your religion, and I shall have mine".

Religion is a term that does not apply to those who put their faith in Jesus for salvation from their sins. We don't even know what the word religion means because we don't subscribe to the belief that religion has any power to do anything except enslave people to a life of endless rituals. All the bowing, stooping, kissing, and recitation in the world will not change a person's sinful heart. A person must be born again in order to be saved.

Originally posted by Devil King
Ah, but see, I don't care what you think about my tone.

You answered nothing. You decided to say that this character you're playing has never questioned anything about his own religion. That's not the morals or practice of an upstanding person who is secure in his faith. That kind of person would have answers to my question. As it is though, you're not that kind of person.

I don't wonder why you don't answer my questions. I know why you don't. It's because you're not 100% comitted to this character you're playing. You don't have to apologize. Nothing you have to say to me offends me. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the day when I respect you, either. But feel free if you're in such a rush to meet Jesus.

That is not what I said. What I said is that my issues are nothing that my faith will not see me through. In the past I refrained from answering your questions until such time as you could be more respectful. I love answering questions but I will not tolerate repeated, unmitigating, and unrelenting disrespect.

Do you follow me?

I give respect day in and day out and I expect to receive it. I have been called all kinds of things and yet I just smile and say God bless you so and so. But there does come a time when I will exercise my right to withold all correspondence if the level of respect is not such that I can even maintain a normal conversation without unnecesary name calling and other expletives. Remember: you and I do not have to post on this site. Let's just enjoy each others comments even if we don't see eye to eye.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
That is not what I said. What I said is that my issues are nothing that my faith will not see me through. In the past I refrained from answering your questions until such time as you could be more respectful. I love answering questions but I will not tolerate repeated, unmitigating, and unrelenting disrespect.

Do you follow me?

I give respect day in and day out and I expect to receive it. I have been called all kinds of things and yet I just smile and say God bless you so and so. But there does come a time when I will exercise my right to withold all correspondence if the level of respect is not such that I can even maintain a normal conversation without unnecesary name calling and other expletives. Remember: you and I do not have to post on this site. Let's just enjoy each others comments even if we don't see eye to eye.

Your issues might be nothing your supposed faith won't see you through, but that it not what I asked. I asked what your issues were, which you neglected to answer.

Repeated, unmitigated and unrelenting disdain is all you'll get from me. But my behavior is not at the heart of your inability to answer my questions, it's your lack of response to them. After all, it isn't intrapersonal interaction that is at the heart of your participation here, it's the attention of the "masses" that interest you.

OH, don't ruin my world by not corresponding! It might be more than my fragile, worldly soul can handle! Please. You not responding to me at all isn't any different from you not answering any serious or mocking question posed to you by myself; much less the numerous serious questions posed to you by other members, which you sidestep and retreat from until most have forgotten the question was asked. I enjoy nothing about you.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There is in Islam. http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm

C'mon, bibleprobe.com? So basically, everything you know about Islam, is what you get from Bible Thumper websites. Here, go to Barnes&Noble, buy a Koran for less than ten bucks, and read it on your own.

Religion is a term that does not apply to those who put their faith in Jesus for salvation from their sins. We don't even know what the word religion means because we don't subscribe to the belief that religion has any power to do anything except enslave people to a life of endless rituals. All the bowing, stooping, kissing, and recitation in the world will not change a person's sinful heart. A person must be born again in order to be saved.

The verse still applies, which is another way of saying "to each, his own."

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I expect to receive it.

Oh look DK, he's a bottom.

Originally posted by Devil King
Your issues might be nothing your supposed faith won't see you through, but that it not what I asked. I asked what your issues were, which you neglected to answer.

Repeated, unmitigated and unrelenting disdain is all you'll get from me. But my behavior is not at the heart of your inability to answer my questions, it's your lack of response to them. After all, it isn't intrapersonal interaction that is at the heart of your participation here, it's the attention of the "masses" that interest you.

OH, don't ruin my world by not corresponding! It might be more than my fragile, worldly soul can handle! Please. You not responding to me at all isn't any different from you not answering any serious or mocking question posed to you by myself; much less the numerous serious questions posed to you by other members, which you sidestep and retreat from until most have forgotten the question was asked. I enjoy nothing about you.

You have accused me of this before but I have yet to see any evidence of side-stepping. Like I said before I cannot respond to all of the posts that I receive because I am only one person. But I do make every effort to (even to your posts in spite of the disrespect that you show me).

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You have accused me of this before but I have yet to see any evidence of side-stepping. Like I said before I cannot respond to all of the posts that I receive because I am only one person. But I do make every effort to (even to your posts in spite of the disrespect that you show me).

[color=full of shit]You're so right! I hate you so much that I constantly accuse you of not answering my questions, despite you having answered all of them.

So then, again, what issues do you have with your religion? Or your homosexual relationship with Jesus. Or what ever you want to call it? You said they were nothing your faith couldn't see you through, so you've at least admitted there are some. Now all you have to do is tell us what it is your faith is seeing you through. [close color]

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
C'mon, bibleprobe.com? So basically, everything you know about Islam, is what you get from Bible Thumper websites. Here, go to Barnes&Noble, buy a Koran for less than ten bucks, and read it on your own.

The verse still applies, which is another way of saying "to each, his own."

Oh look DK, he's a bottom.

No, I have read the Qur'an online (it's much more efficient). To be frank it is a counterfeit, imitation of the Bible. It is a specious book that gives the semblance of authenticity, but is hoplessly and essentially devoid of divine inspiration at its core. Once all of the veneer is stripped from it, it is seen for what it is: just another man-made book.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota

Oh look DK, he's a bottom.

That was funny.

Originally posted by Devil King
You're so right! I hate you so much that I constantly accuse you of not answering my questions, despite you having answered all of them.

So then, again, what issues do you have with your religion? Or your homosexual relationship with Jesus. Or what ever you want to call it? You said they were nothing your faith couldn't see you through, so you've at least admitted there are some. Now all you have to do is tell us what it is your faith is seeing you through.

I really would like to know the source of your hatred and anger. What makes you so angry that you feel compelled to blaspheme God? Can't you see that you are of your father the devil? But you can be a child of God (YHWH). God loves you and wants to give you eternal life Devil King.

What say you?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, I have read the Qur'an online (it's much more efficient). To be frank it is a counterfeit, imitation of the Bible. It is a specious book that gives the semblance of authenticity, but is hoplessly and essentially devoid of divine inspiration at its core. Once all of the veneer is stripped from it, it is seen for what it is: just another man-made book.

And God hath created all life of water.
The Koran 24:45

Now, modern science tells us that lifeforms from grass to ants to humans are comprised almost entirely of water. Science also says that life began in water. So tell me how an illiterate merchant in 7th century Arabia could have known that?

Originally posted by Robtard
And that fiery bit about Sodom and Gomorrah:

"And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned [them] with an overthrow, making [them] an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly"

Didn't he also turn Lot's wife into salt.

Uhh. God did that. Not Jesus.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Well, thats you own arrogance.

How so. Just because I think you should be praised for your good deeds even if they weren't as grand as bringing people back from the dead or whatever David Copperfield trick Jesus pulled off.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Why delude yourself?

Again how so?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Oh look DK, he's a bottom.

It's not what goes into the mouth, it's what comes out of it -to paraphrase

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I really would like to know the source of your hatred and anger. What makes you so angry that you feel compelled to blaspheme God? Can't you see that you are of your father the devil? But you can be a child of God (YHWH). God loves you and wants to give you eternal life Devil King.

What say you?

As relevant to my life as you would like to make yourself by claiming you incite anger or hatred in me, you're really just an on-line hobby for me. Much like this sock account of yours.

I say I'm not fooled by your default response to any question you can't answer. That answer being to espouse blessings and then never actually respond. If god wants to give me something, he'll do it.

What compels you to babble endlessly on an internet forum?

My father might well have been the devil, but I'm pretty sure he was just a man; much like Jesus' father.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
[b]And God hath created all life of water.
The Koran 24:45

Now, modern science tells us that lifeforms from grass to ants to humans are comprised almost entirely of water. Science also says that life began in water. So tell me how an illiterate merchant in 7th century Arabia could have known that? [/B]

you cheeky bastard...

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
[b]And God hath created all life of water.
The Koran 24:45

Now, modern science tells us that lifeforms from grass to ants to humans are comprised almost entirely of water. Science also says that life began in water. So tell me how an illiterate merchant in 7th century Arabia could have known that? [/B]

Lucky guess? They didn't know the world was round. Now why didn't they know that?

Originally posted by Devil King
It's not what goes into the mouth, it's what comes out of it -to paraphrase

As relevant to my life as you would like to make yourself by claiming you incite anger or hatred in me, you're really just an on-line hobby for me. Much like this sock account of yours.

I say I'm not fooled by your default response to any question you can't answer. That answer being to espouse blessings and then never actually respond. If god wants to give me something, he'll do it.

What compels you to babble endlessly on an internet forum?

My father might well have been the devil, but I'm pretty sure he was just a man; much like Jesus' father.

Well when all your answers come from whatever book you choose to be your religious faith, the answers are quite limited and they have to convert to the eternal damnation or hatred in our hearts routine.

Originally posted by socool8520
They didn't know the world was round.

It is God who has created the night and day, and the sun and the moon. They all, in their orbit, swim.
The Koran 39:5

Originally posted by socool8520
Well when all your answers come from whatever book you choose to be your religious faith, the answers are quite limited and they have to convert to the eternal damnation or hatred in our hearts routine.

And what is your answer when one has no such book or faith or religion?

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
[b]It is God who has created the night and day, and the sun and the moon. They all, in their orbit, swim.
The Koran 39:5 [/B]

Ok??????