Can you handle the Truth?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i see conflicting arguments here

Where's the conflict? If you have heard the good news (i.e. the gospel) and you have rejected it, then you will be judged in light of that knowledge. (Now I am about to use conjecture here because I am not sure exactly how God will handle this) If you have never heard the gospel, then you will be judged according to a different standard, but judged nonetheless. You will perhaps be judged in light of your conscience. Again, I really don't know how God will judge folk who have never heard the gospel. But it is not important. The job of the believer is the tell others about Jesus Christ and leave the other stuff for God to figure out. I'm sure God already knew what He would do from the beginning anyway, nothing takes God by surprise. The Bible states that God knows the end from the beginning.

so god and the serpent in the garden of eden was his plan and was aware of the outcome..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
so god and the serpent in the garden of eden was his plan and was aware of the outcome..

All things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are called according to his purpose (Romans 8:28).

No, I do not believe that it was God's plan for Adam to sin or for the serpent (i.e. the devil) to deceive Eve. But God can cause good to come out of a bad situation, which is what I believe that He has done with respect to the whole Adam and Eve debacle.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]All things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are called according to his purpose (Romans 8:28).

No, I do not believe that it was God's plan for Adam to sin or for the serpent (i.e. the devil) to deceive Eve. But God can cause good to come out of a bad situation, which is what I believe that He has done with respect to the whole Adam and Eve debacle. [/B]

but in your last post you stated god already knew the out come...

The job of the believer is the tell others about Jesus Christ and leave the other stuff for God to figure out. I'm sure God already knew what He would do from the beginning anyway, nothing takes God by surprise. The Bible states that God knows the end from the beginning.

JIA,

If the only way to eternal life is through Jesus, what are those ignorant of Jesus supposed to do? If God won't hold them accountable due to their ignorance, yet they can't meet the eternal life claus of he Bible to get the reward, quandary.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

No, I do not believe that it was God's plan for Adam to sin or for the serpent (i.e. the devil) to deceive Eve. But God can cause good to come out of a bad situation, which is what I believe that He has done with respect to the whole Adam and Eve debacle.

Then why did God place the tree of knowledge in the garden, well knowing that Adam & Eve would without a doubt disobey and eat from it? He would have known long before be created Adam, let alone Eve.

Originally posted by Robtard
Then why did God place the tree of knowledge in the garden, well knowing that Adam & Eve would without a doubt disobey and eat from it? He would have known long before be created Adam, let alone Eve.

Just for levity, those of us who would view Genesis as a metaphorical story rather than a history might suggest that the Apple simply provides an example of an act of disobedience/rejection of God.

With that interpretation in mind your question of "why did he place the apple in the Garden then?" would actually become, "why did God allow people free will?"

Which is much easier to answer.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Just for levity, those of us who would view Genesis as a metaphorical story rather than a history might suggest that the Apple simply provides an example of an act of disobedience/rejection of God.

With that interpretation in mind your question of "why did he place the apple in the Garden then?" would actually become, "why did God allow people free will?"

Which is much easier to answer.

damn you and your open minded interpretation of the bible... our question was for JIA to answer now i feel cheated.

Originally posted by Robtard
Then why did God place the tree of knowledge in the garden, well knowing that Adam & Eve would without a doubt disobey and eat from it? He would have known long before be created Adam, let alone Eve.

To allow Adam to have an opportunity to exercise his (free) will. Adam needed two alternatives presented to him in order to have a choice: one good and one evil.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Just for levity, those of us who would view Genesis as a metaphorical story rather than a history might suggest that the Apple simply provides an example of an act of disobedience/rejection of God.

With that interpretation in mind your question of "why did he place the apple in the Garden then?" would actually become, "why did God allow people free will?"

Which is much easier to answer.

Which has more value to you: a woman who loves you because she chooses to or a woman who loves you because she has no other alternative? (Be candid.)

Originally posted by Robtard
JIA,

If the only way to eternal life is through Jesus, what are those ignorant of Jesus supposed to do? If God won't hold them accountable due to their ignorance, yet they can't meet the eternal life claus of he Bible to get the reward, quandary.

God hasn't told me in His Word so I must not concern myself with such issues. Why don't we just let God take care of those matters? God is love, merciful, holy, and righteous. Moreover, God is a God of hope. I believe that God has it all covered.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
but in your last post you stated god already knew the out come...

He did know what would happened.

What is your question?

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
k i'm done... for two reasons:

and:

Guess you must have figured out your math is all F'ed up 😄

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
We must suppress the truth before folk realize that evolutionary theory is a lie.

Complexity of The Cell - EXPELLED - Ben Stein

YouTube video

so your defense is comparing the understanding of an 18th century man to the knowledge of a modern scientist even though nothing was added to or proposed to make a case for your side?

2g2kAN2SBRs&

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2g2kAN2SBRs&NR=1

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]Complexity of The Cell - EXPELLED - Ben Stein [/B]

Cells have also evolved over the last 3.5 billion years. The idea that looking at a single celled animal is like looking at a primitive life form is wrong. The single celled animals of the remote past do not exist today.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
so your defense is comparing the understanding of an 18th century man to the knowledge of a modern scientist even though nothing was added to or proposed to make a case for your side?

Darwin had no idea how sophisticated the cell was. It is likened to a factory albeit on a nano level (which is even more amazing). Factories don't construct themselves.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Darwin had no idea how sophisticated the cell was. It is likened to a factory. Factories don't construct themselves.

Complexity of a cell has nothing to do with evolution because complicated cells are modern. The primitive cells that modern life evolved from do not exist today.

[QUOTE=11478800]Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]2g2kAN2SBRs&

oh there are so many things wrong with that video...

but if you want to show us a video pls add a summary so we will watch or understand what you are asking if you are asking any questions..

any who you want to get into physics quantum theory now thats cool first off have you ever heard of white holes?