Celestials or LT vs full potential franklin richards

Originally posted by zopzop
Nope. I saw those scans before on comicvine. Nowhere near the same thing. An amped Mephisto was brought to his knees and smoldering in his own realm by Franklin. Then after Franklin takes care of the amp (moving the planet out of Earth's vicinity WHILE he's in Mephisto's realm meaning they weren't even on the same plane of existence), he one shots Mephisto so bad, his spirit is shattered into 6 pieces and he cant' reform himself without the aid of his pawn Master Pandemonium.

He gets destroyed in 277, and attacks Pandemonium, gives him powers, and tricks him in 315.

Also, Franklin had nothing to do with Mephisto losing his amp.

Originally posted by guy222
yall silly

lt/celestials win

new thread idea

mr. termineus vs franklin richards 😄

Lt sure. I give it to him.

Celestials...depends on how many and which ones. The adult Franklin seen in Hickman's run could definitely handle a few!!

(Forget Psi-Lord or "teen-cable" and his silly power-siphoning armor though. That version of the character was written by Tom DeFalco.. the same guy who wrote a story where Thor defeated The All-Powerful Phoenix in umm.. mere seconds. )

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Which makes no sense.

It's a comic book. And it makes a whole lot more sense than an entire human populace accepting a pair of glasses as a credible disguise for a certain beloved DC character. 🙂

Originally posted by Doon
It's a comic book. And it makes a whole lot more sense than an entire human populace accepting a pair of glasses as a credible disguise for a certain beloved DC character. 🙂

Come on Yat Whirlyman.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
He came back at the end of the same year. He apparently reformed right away, but he didn't reform fully. Which makes no sense. Franklin dispersing him should have no effect on him since he can regenerate from nothing at all.

He gets destroyed in 277, and attacks Pandemonium, gives him powers, and tricks him in 315.

Also, Franklin had nothing to do with Mephisto losing his amp.

Yes he did. Didn't he knock the "Evil Planet" out of Earth's vicinity? I don't have the followup issue (ROM Secret War II tie in) so I can't be 100% sure. But in the FF 227 it makes it clear it was Franklin that moved that world and hence removed the amp and then scattered Mephisto to the four winds with one shot.

Here is the confirmation of just how badly Franklin owned the sh|t out of Mephisto :
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/815/superowned.jpg/

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I'll admit it makes more sense than saying a depiction doesn't count because Thor did something cool

Come on Yat Whirlyman.

😆 Thor couldn't beat Phoenix in mere seconds.. hell ..probably not even in 30 days. That's another thread though..

Originally posted by zopzop
Yes he did. Didn't he knock the "Evil Planet" out of Earth's vicinity? I don't have the followup issue (ROM Secret War II tie in) so I can't be 100% sure. But in the FF 227 it makes it clear it was Franklin that moved that world and hence removed the amp and then scattered Mephisto to the four winds with one shot.

Here is the confirmation of just how badly Franklin owned the sh|t out of Mephisto :
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/815/superowned.jpg/

I realize. It still doesn't make sense.

Also this:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2wcib7d.jpg
😖hifty:

Originally posted by zopzop
Yes he did. Didn't he knock the "Evil Planet" out of Earth's vicinity? I don't have the followup issue (ROM Secret War II tie in) so I can't be 100% sure. But in the FF 227 it makes it clear it was Franklin that moved that world and hence removed the amp and then scattered Mephisto to the four winds with one shot.

Here is the confirmation of just how badly Franklin owned the sh|t out of Mephisto :

Wow. I never saw that image. Thanks!

Also this:
😖hifty: [/B]

That last image you posted took place prior to the encounter with M. Franklin faced Mephisto when he (his astral form) was in Hell with his parents. It's a pretty good read.

I know. It's funny though.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
It says right in the scan that the world was destroyed by a small band of men on a space platform.
I'd go through my Rom collection, but I don't think there's any need.

I realize. It still doesn't make sense.

Yeah, don't bother. I just realized now. The art on the last scan threw me. The Dire Wraith world was destroyed by someone else (his amp), then Franklin destroyed Mephisto.

Still though. Mephisto with AMP in his realm ---- brought to his knees and smoldering by Franklin. Then without the amp, one shotted to 6 pieces in his own realm and needing his pawn to recollect himself. That's still more than what Galactus did.

Also this:
http://i39.tinypic.com/2wcib7d.jpg
😖hifty:

Originally posted by zopzop

Yeah, don't bother. I just realized now. The art on the last scan threw me. The Dire Wraith world was destroyed by someone else (his amp), then Franklin destroyed Mephisto.

Still though. Mephisto with AMP in his realm ---- brought to his knees and smoldering by Franklin. Then without the amp, one shotted to 6 pieces in his own realm and needing his pawn to recollect himself. That's still more than what Galactus did.

🙁 [/B]

Like I said, the Galactus fight was Mephisto's highest feat. The guy was written very high there, like when he toyed with Surfer as if he were a human
Hell, using that as direct proof, we might as well say Adam Warlock is more powerful than Galactus. Adam Warlock via soundly defeating him.
Which would put the hierarchy like this:
Franklin>Warlock>Galactus

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb

Hell, using that as direct proof, we might as well say Adam Warlock is more powerful than Galactus. Adam Warlock via soundly defeating him.
Which would put the hierarchy like this:
Franklin>Warlock>Galactus

When did Warlock beat Galactus? What was Galactus' state of hunger at the time? I know Warlock once avoided Galactus' senses (and thereby humiliated him) during the Infinity Gauntlet affair. That's about the best showing I can recall of Warlock vs Galactus.

Originally posted by zopzop
When did Warlock beat Galactus? What was Galactus' state of hunger at the time? I know Warlock once avoided Galactus' senses (and thereby humiliated him) during the Infinity Gauntlet affair. That's about the best showing I can recall of Warlock vs Galactus.

You really jumped at the thought of Warlock defeating Galactus though. 😂

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I meant Mephisto. Warlock via defeating Mephisto.

You really jumped at the thought of Warlock defeating Galactus though. 😂

No I couldn't believe it. I mean I realize Galactus jobbs but that would have been too humiliating even for me.

PS When did Warlock beat Mephisto? Was it in his realm?

Originally posted by zopzop
No I couldn't believe it. I mean I realize Galactus jobbs but that would have been too humiliating even for me.

PS When did Warlock beat Mephisto? Was it in his realm?

He "soundly defeated him" in his own realm after Warlock absorbed souls with the Soul Gem to combat him

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Silver Surfer/Warlock: Ressurection

He "soundly defeated him" in his own realm absorbing souls with the Soul Gem to combat him

Ah. But he used the Soul Gem, so I guess that makes it less humiliating.

Originally posted by zopzop
Ah. But he used the Soul Gem, so I guess that makes it less humiliating.

Hey, even the LT himself was defeated by Thanos, while in possession of the "heart of the universe".

Originally posted by zopzop
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Annihilated by Franklin. This was an AMPED Mephisto (some evil planet was approaching Earth) in his own realm. I'm trying to find my West Coast Avengers issue that shows just how much Franklin wtfpwned Mephisto (he needed Master Pandemonium to help him fully reform). Never was Mephisto destroyed like this, ever. Unless I'm missing something.

...It's like using Hulk from the Onslaught saga (the one Jean mind wiped near the end) and trying to call that his 'regular' level. Doesn't work. All it does is show us what they are capable of when let loose by external factors--which has nothing to do with the debate at hand.

Originally posted by zopzop
Yeah, don't bother. I just realized now. The art on the last scan threw me. The Dire Wraith world was destroyed by someone else (his amp), then Franklin destroyed Mephisto.

Still though. Mephisto with AMP in his realm ---- brought to his knees and smoldering by Franklin. Then without the amp, one shotted to 6 pieces in his own realm and needing his pawn to recollect himself. That's still more than what Galactus did.