I always think that the PT is not as bad as the bashers say, yet isn't as good as the gushers say. I really believe the majority of SW fans fall somewhere in the middle, and i am one of them.
I don't think I can ever hate a SW movie, cause.......it's SW! I just think the PT could have been better, and in the end I like the OT alot more cause ANH & ESB are just truly great movies, and because of my love for them I have learned to like or love in someways the other 4 movies cause it expands the overall story, in someways for better and in someways for worse.
So I guess you could call me a PT/OOT fan.
Originally posted by queeqYou couldn't be more wrong.
True. But AOTC serves absolutely no purpose in the entire story of the saga. It contains only a few plot points and most of them are mere exposition.
The whole point of AotC was the love story. If Anakin & Padme don't fall in love:
- Palpatine doesn't have a hold over Anakin to save Padme's life.
- Luke & Leia never live
Originally posted by Schecter
you mean the vast majority of moviegoers? dont think its a hit because people love it on a star wars forum. 🙄
Movies like "Riddick," and "Gigli" stink. The PT? Naaaah.
The PT was the the number 1, 2 and 1 box office movies of their respective years. So the public loved watching them. If they hated ep 1 so my why was ep 2 so popular? If they hated ep 2 so much why did they bother with ep 3? Hmmm, could be they liked it!
Originally posted by chinabing
You couldn't be more wrong.The whole point of AotC was the love story. If Anakin & Padme don't fall in love:
- Palpatine doesn't have a hold over Anakin to save Padme's life.
- Luke & Leia never live
Yeah, but there's also the worst part of AOTC: totally unbelievable and downright terrible love scenes. ESB had more romance in those few little moments than AOTC, whic is supposed to hold the most important love story of them all. Besides, their love story continues into ROTS, so it's half and crappy. Why was AOTC important again?
Originally posted by Schecter
you mean the vast majority of moviegoers? dont think its a hit because people love it on a star wars forum. 🙄
Well, looks like you forgot something.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
^^^Aye, but then so would LOTR, Spiderman, Pirates, Jurrasic Park, Forest Gump, etc....The OT would rule all! 😈
Anyways, getting back on topic here (sorry if my posts de-railed the thread), I had a specific reason for posting the box office totals and critics reviews.
To remind us all debating on these boards that the PT wasn't some commerical or critical failure.
In fact, they were reviewed as either fair or fantastic (depending on who you asked) for EpI and EpII, and almost unanimously as awesome! for EpIII.
And they made tons of money.
The argument could be made: "Well, that's only because SW fans went to see them, over and over."
Incorrect. This may lead to them hitting 300 Mil and over yes, but for a film to even cross past 200 mil, it has to be a huge hit with a wide audience of all ages, not just fanboys.
See Narnia, Independence Day, Forest Gump, Nemo, Shrek, Sixth Sense, etc....
The PT was watched by many people, and more than once.
Even if all SW fanboys watched a PT flick 3 times each, it would only clear 100-120 mil in the U.S.
The other 150 Mil HAS to come from general audiences, some who went to see it again.
This changes none of our opinions or reasons for either liking, hating, or having mixed feelings of the PT of course.
As SW fans, we have our own personal feelings and logic towards these films. 😛
But I wanted it to serve as a reminder to those that feel they were "failures" or "critical-flops" or "despised by the general public" that just because you may feel that way, it doesn't mean that the non-SW fan public did.
In fact, quite the opposite. 🙂
Carry on, then.
We've done this dance before.
Critics rated the PT: fair to fantastic for EP1 and EP2 and Awesome! for Ep3.
Commercially, they were a huge success. This accounts for more than just fanboys seeing it 3 times each.
If normal audiences saw a movie once, and then didn't like it... it would have a great first weekend and a 60% drop during the second weekend, followed by more of a drop-off. (see Spiderman 3)
Spiderman 3, released on far more screens than any PT film, had the greatest opening of all time.
Going into the third week of release, it's still at 240 mil, 18 mil under it's budget cost.
It'll be lucky to cross 300 mil, with Shrek and Pirates out.
The point: It's not liked by audiences who saw it once and aren't going back.
The PT on the other hand, made tons of money, even Aotc (lowest grossing PT film) made 310 mil, about 70 more than Spidey 3 is currently at.
Fanboys on their own can't do that.
GENERAL AUDIENCES, going back more than once are what do that.
The critics didn't hate them (and praised some of them), the public enjoyed them, 82% of fans polled on this site enjoyed them, and 65% thought them as good as the OT.
The "PT sux" crowd is wrong.
Warts and all, the PT was and is well-recieved.
Originally posted by chinabingThe PT was the the number 1, 2 and 1 box office movies of their respective years. So the public loved watching them. If they hated ep 1 so my why was ep 2 so popular? If they hated ep 2 so much why did they bother with ep 3? Hmmm, could be they liked it!
Because it's Star Wars you idiot, the Event movie of the summer.
Originally posted by sithsaber408Spiderman 3, released on far more screens than any PT film, had the greatest opening of all time.
Going into the third week of release, it's still at 240 mil, 18 mil under it's budget cost.
It'll be lucky to cross 300 mil, with Shrek and Pirates out.
$300m? Where did you get that figure from?
It's already reached $630m