Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Better yet. How about a bear claw? It puts you that much closer to the bear arm.
Originally posted by Robtard
I believe I said that in the beginning of the thread, you get nothing and it is true. People who want a gun to specifically commit a crime tend to get them illegally.
Crimes are generally committed illegally. Should we legalize rape because criminals will still do it anyway?
Originally posted by chithappens
He is now going to say, "but America has more of each."The point Robtard is trying to make is that that did not disappear and your way has not obliterated the crimes people commit anyway.
No one says it has to obliterate crime, reducing it would be enough to make it worth while to get rid of that useless amendment.
Originally posted by Eclipso
That makes little sense. The part I underlined isn't even a real cohenrent sentence.I have made points, but since you don't agree with them, you pretend they don't exist.
The right to own guns IS the right to shoot people as US society shows.
Obviously I made a grammatical error.. if that's all you have left besides "JUST STOP MAKING GUNS AND WE'LL ALL BE HAPPY!" rant just say so. Pointing out grammatical errors and spelling mistakes as an attempt to push your pointless points is pathetic.
Your points are pointless. Canada has many guns, yet murder rates by use of gun are lower than the U.S., obviously guns aren't the sole problem.
You're a fool ranting now... Care to point out some evidence how "The right to own guns IS the right to shoot people" is true in the U.S.? Because I can pull up laws that will show murder and malicious bodily harm ISN'T a right.
Originally posted by Eclipso
No I havent, but I don't need to to know that Guns serve no valid use in society.
I'm not trying to say I am all for guns but I see both sides. "Not as high a crime rate" is not the same as "no crime" or for the sake of argument "no gun crime."
That is not a good argument for me simply because you can not compare the situation of Europe to that of America - COMPLETELY DIFFERENT even in terms of just culture. This is too complicated to just tie it down to stats.
Owning a Gun is to accept the risk that sooneor later someone is going to get shot.
Canada also has similar events we have also had many school shootings as well and twice this year in my city a person has taken a gun into the downtown core and opened fire. On new years day a girl in toronto was shot in the face comming out of Eaton's center with her family. Today 4 blocks from where I live a person shot and killed some people in their home.
I will never understand the bloodthrist of people who own Guns. My points still stand, Countries like England and Norway and Sweden and others in Europe have banned guns and have a much much lower crime rate and still manage to protect themselves and enforce the law as well.
And I love how you mockingly joke about people living in peace with one another. It would kinda ruin your Gun lust wouldn't it?
Originally posted by StyleTime
Actually, I get a bear claw.Crimes are generally committed illegally. Should we legalize rape because criminals will still do it anyway?
Nice way to sidestep the point... Point was, if we make guns illegal in the U.S., you'll be taking the guns away from all people, including the MAJORITY of gun owners who DO NOT use their guns to commit crimes. But, the criminals who specifically want a gun to commit a crime tend to obtain them regardless of gun laws.
Originally posted by Robtard
Nice way to sidestep the point... Point was, if we make guns illegal in the U.S., you'll be taking the guns away from all people, including the MAJORITY of gun owners who DO NOT use their guns to commit crimes. But, the criminals who specifically want a gun to commit a crime tend to obtain them regardless of gun laws.
But everyone would be better without them anyways and they still get them because they are still manufactured. This should be stopped.
Originally posted by RobtardAssuming that the desired outcome is outright prohibition.
Nice way to sidestep the point... Point was, if we make guns illegal in the U.S., you'll be taking the guns away from all people, including the MAJORITY of gun owners who DO NOT use their guns to commit crimes. But, the criminals who specifically want a gun to commit a crime tend to obtain them regardless of gun laws.
Originally posted by EclipsoI'm sorry, but who the hell are you to say that "everyone" would be better without them? Please, please, don't make a gross generalization like that.
But everyone would be better without them anyways and they still get them because they are still manufactured. This should be stopped.
Originally posted by Eclipso
because the only reason to get a gun is to kill someone.
Reason is not universal. I might want a knife to kill someone. I might want a knife to cut up the Thanksgiving turkey. Slice my girlfriend's tire. Use it as a horrible back up screwdriver when I can't find one (OMG, I have done this! Takes forever!).
Like I said, guns can be used simply to injure. Some people buy guns simple to intimidate would be criminals, not with intent to kill. They know that a criminal might figure as you do: "Someone would only have a gun to kill! They have no morals!" 😆
Originally posted by Eclipso
Owning a Gun is to accept the risk that sooneor later someone is going to get shot.Canada also has similar events we have also had many school shootings as well and twice this year in my city a person has taken a gun into the downtown core and opened fire. On new years day a girl in toronto was shot in the face comming out of Eaton's center with her family. Today 4 blocks from where I live a person shot and killed some people in their home.
I will never understand the bloodthrist of people who own Guns. My points still stand, Countries like England and Norway and Sweden and others in Europe have banned guns and have a much much lower crime rate and still manage to protect themselves and enforce the law as well.
And I love how you mockingly joke about people living in peace with one another. It would kinda ruin you Gun lust wouldn't it?
Oh really... That's another fact-less rant. If "people being shot" was indeed intrinsic of gun ownership, everybody in the U.S (and Canada) would either be dead of have a bullet wound. "Sooner or later".. how deep... lol
Yes, I understand that people can die from being shot. Why should the vast majority of people who own guns and DO NOT shot people or commit crimes with them suffer for the few? When the few that do want a gun for malicious intent will still obtain a gun [illegally] if they really are so hard up to kill?
I don't agree that it's "bloodlust" and the facts don't agree with you either. The VAST MAJORITY of people who own guns to not use said guns to kill people. That is a fact. I don't own a gun; never have, so I can't enlighten you to the appeal people have in owning one.
I don't mock peace, I mock your nonsensical rants about "stop making guns all together". As noted, I don't own a gun and I have no intention of buying one in the future.