Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I am not prejudice against Muslim people, but I have no respect for the Quran.
Thats like saying "I dont hate ****, I just hate homosexuality".
You're an Islamaphobe.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Then you are clearly blind. It is hypocritical to disapprove of homosexuality, but approve of peadophilia.
No, you clearly cant explain something.
How is that hypocritical? I dont think a sexual psychological would correlate the two.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Thats like saying "I dont hate ****, I just hate homosexuality".
I am prejudice against a fkn book. That's not the same as being prejudice against a person.
Stop trying to compare disrespect for a book to homophobia. You shot down my comparison of Homophobia to Racism, which have FAR more in common.
Please stop being a hypocrite 👇
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
You're an Islamaphobe.
Yes, that is why I have utmost respect of Ghazul Omid, Islamic women, Heba Kobt (Islamic Sex therapist) 🙄
Please know what you are talking about before you vomit your usual bullshit...
I have nothing against pilgramages to Mecca, the prayers, or thier beleif in God, Angels, or Djinn. It's all fascinating and amazing stuff.
What I am against is the senseless violence that Quran permits, as well as the Quran itself. I have little respect for the Quran, same way I do for the Bible.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
No, you clearly cant explain something.
Either you are misintepretting what I am actually saying and jumping to your own assumptions, or I am miscommunicating what I am trying to say.
If the case is the latter, then I apologize.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
How is that hypocritical? I dont think a sexual psychological would correlate the two.
It is hypocritical for a group of people who revere a peadophile to discriminate against homosexual people. If you can't see that, then you are blind beyond beleif.
Muslims label Homosexuality as immoral and dangerous. There is nothing evidently immoral or dangerous about homosexuality; peadophilia,however, is dangerous in the sense that children who experience it end up in much trauma, pain, if not psychosis.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I am prejudice against a fkn [b]book. That's not the same as being prejudice against a person.Stop trying to compare disrespect for a book to homophobia. You shot down my comparison of Homophobia to Racism, which have FAR more in common.
Please stop being a hypocrite 👇
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That "fkn book" is the backbone of the religion. Hating the book is equal to hating the religion. Which is equal to hating its followers.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Yes, that is why I have utmost respect of Ghazul Omid, Islamic women, Heba Kobt (Islamic Sex therapist) 🙄
So basically you the like sinners, but hate the sin.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Please know what you are talking about before you vomit your usual bullshit...
I know exactly what I'm saying.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I am miscommunicating what I am trying to say.If the case is the latter, then I apologize.
Apology accepted.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
It is hypocritical for a group of people who revere a peadophile to discriminate against homosexual people. If you can't see that, then you are blind beyond beleif.Muslims label Homosexuality as immoral and dangerous. There is nothing evidently immoral or dangerous about homosexuality; [b]peadophilia,
however, is dangerous in the sense that children who experience it end up in much trauma, pain, if not psychosis. [/B]
So youre saying that homosexuality is form of paraphillia? If youre comparing being gay to being a kiddie-fondler thats what it seems like you're implying.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
That "fkn book" is the backbone of the religion. Hating the book is equal to hating the religion. Which is equal to hating its followers.
Hating a book is not the same as hating the person/people.
Excuse the analogy, but, If I practiced witchcraft, and was hurting people with my Spell Book...you stumble upon my spell book and see what kind of harmful spells it performs...are you going to have any respect for the book ?
If not, does that mean that you will hate all people who read or follow that book ? Keep in mind, the book has beneficial spells too...
There's no such thing as hating someone by default....
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
So basically you the like sinners, but hate the sin.
They are not sinners ❌
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I know exactly what I'm saying.
You clearly don't. You're making blank accusations towards me in effort to easier antagonize me. 👇
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Apology accepted.
You sure its me miscommunicating and not you misinterpetting ? 😬
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
So youre saying that homosexuality is form of paraphillia? If youre comparing being gay to being a kiddie-fondler thats what it seems like you're implying.
That's not what I am saying at all, and I seem to recall you earlier stating in another thread that homosexuality is just as sick as peadophilia...so stop being a fkn hypocrite, for the last fkn time....
Secondly, I am not judging peadophiles..this thread is not about the morality of peadophilia. It is a simple observation. Muhammed was a peadophile. Even you admit it..I want to know why Muslimscholar denies it.
Third, I am not comparing Homosexuality to Peadophilia. You are either blind or dumb. I am saying it is hypocritical to condemn Homosexuality and then approve of peadophilia. Peadophilia is harmful, Homosexuality is not. It is clearly hypocritical, and you are either blind to it, or purposely being stupid in effort to spite me. 👇
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Hating a book is not the same as hating the person/people.
The Koran is what they live by. If you have no respect for the book, then how the hell can you respect the people who call it a guide to life?
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Excuse the analogy, but, If I practiced witchcraft, and was hurting people with my Spell Book...you stumble upon my spell book and see what kind of harmful spells it performs...are you going to have any respect for the book ?If not, does that mean that you will hate all people who read or follow that book ? Keep in mind, the book has beneficial spells too...
I wounldn't have respect or disrespect for the book. Youre just practicing your First Amendment Rights.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
[b]You clearly don't. You're making blank accusations towards me in effort to easier antagonize me. 👇
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Its not a blank accusation; if you dont like the religion, then you are in fact an Islamaphobe.
Youve said in the past "I have no repsect for Islam". Unless that statement was ambigous or not straight-forward, what exactly does it mean?
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
You sure its me miscommunicating and not you misinterpetting ? 😬
I think its just you trying to justify your resentment of Islam.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
That's not what I am saying at all, and I seem to recall you earlier stating in another thread that homosexuality is just as sick as peadophilia...so stop being a fkn hypocrite, for the last fkn time....Secondly, I am not judging peadophiles..this thread is not about the morality of peadophilia. It is a simple observation. Muhammed was a peadophile. Even you admit it..I want to know why Muslimscholar denies it.
Third, I am not comparing Homosexuality to Peadophilia. You are either blind or dumb. I am saying it is hypocritical to condemn Homosexuality and then approve of peadophilia. Peadophilia is harmful, Homosexuality is not. It is clearly hypocritical, and you are either blind to it, or purposely being stupid in effort to spite me. 👇
I never said being gay is "sick", just that its not for me...by any stretch. Now screwing kids, I consider to be extremely sick and ****ed-up.
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If your point in making this thread was really just to find out why muslimscholar and Fatima think that, why didnt you just PM them instead of making a thread that intentionally insults 1.4 billion people?
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
The Koran is what they live by. If you have no respect for the book, then how the hell can you respect the people who call it a guide to life?
Alliance would beg to differ, and so will I.
Do all Christians remain 100% loyal to the Bible ? ❌
Do all Muslims remain 100% loyal to the bible ? ❌
The Quran does not define a Muslim. A Muslim's actions in response to the Quran defines he or she as a Muslim. Islam, if to be judged, can only be judged by two things: The Quran, and the actions that the followers take as a result of thier response to the Quran.
I have no respect for the Quran....it is a work of human writing, it is self contradictory as is the Bible, and it condones violence and killing.
Therefore, I do not respect it. I DO NOT RESPECT ANY TEXT THAT CONDONES VIOLENCE OR KILLING
End of story.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I wounldn't have respect or disrespect for the book. Youre just practicing your First Amendment Rights.
So If I was using these spells to hurt people, you would still respect the book ? And it's just using my First Amendment Rights to torture and kill people based on the writings of my spell book ? 😬
Yeah okay.....
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Its not a blank accusation; if you dont like the religion, then you are in fact an Islamaphobe.
Islamophobia is the hatred of Islamic people.
I do not hate Islamic people. I already stated that, If I did, I would have no respect for those Muslim Women I have mentioned earlier.
I disrespect the Quran, and I disrespect the violence that has been done as a result of the Quran's teachings. Nothing more, nothing less.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Youve said in the past "I have no repsect for Islam". Unless that statement was ambigous or not straight-forward, what exactly does it mean?
It was a general statement, and not specific enough....
I think Islam needs further reforms. Islam is doing well in places like Egypt, and is progressing much further in other nations. It's practically harmless in the USA and Europe.
However, in the Middle Eastern nations, where Islam is Law, there is a high concentration of violence, discrimination, and injustice.
Islam, in its non-reformed state, is an atrocity there.
Once Islam releases its desire to shed blood, then I will respect it. I will probably be dead before that ever happens.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I think its just you trying to justify your resentment of Islam.
I dont need to justify jack shit
I have no respect for the Quran or the violence it promotes....I said it.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I never said being gay is "sick", just that its not for me...by any stretch. Now screwing kids, I consider to be extremely sick and ****ed-up.
Yes you have, and on many occasions you have made negative comments, sarcasm, judgements, etc. on my being bisexual.
You have also sided with Sithsaber, arguing that Homosexuality is not normal, that it's immoral and base, etc.
Don't even try it Quiero...I remember everything you have said.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
If your point in making this thread was really just to find out why muslimscholar and Fatima think that, why didnt you just PM them instead of making a thread that intentionally insults 1.4 billion people?
Because they will not answer my PM's. My last pm to Muslimscholar was aimed at making a truce. He did not answer, so I made this thread without any consideration to his feelings.
I asked Fatima many times, and she gives me the same stupid answer "Aisha was a mature 9 year old".
Come up with a real answer, or dont bother... 👇
Originally posted by Alliance
If you hate Islam, you hate muslims...plain and simple.
I do not hate Islam. I disrespect the teachings of the Quran. You critisize the Bible all the time. Do you hate Christians ?
You don't have much to say about Christianity because Christianity has not condoned anywhere the amount of violence that Islam has this decade.
Get this through you head....disrespecting a book is not the same thing as hating a person. The book is not a part of who they are. The book is not part of thier genetics, or part of thier make up.
I cannot ignore the violence that has been done as a result of the Quran's teachings like you can. Innocent men, women, and children have suffered and died because of the teachings of one fkn book for centuries, until today, and this suffering will continue for years to come.
I cannot and will not respect a book that enables this. Ever.
Originally posted by Alliance
If you hate gays, you hate homosexuals...plain and simple.
Yes, if you hate Gays you hate Homosexuals, I agree 👆
Originally posted by Alliance
You cannot seperate someone from somthing that they're a part of, something that they identify with.
If I hate blonde hair, but my boyfreind has blonde hair, that does not mean I hate him.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Do all Christians remain 100% loyal to the Bible ? ❌
So?
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Do all Muslims remain 100% loyal to the bible ? ❌
Why the hell would a Muslim be loyal to the Bible??
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
The Quran does not define a Muslim.
Um yeah it does, just take a look at the opening verse of the second sura:
No doubt is there about this Book – is a guidance for all the God-fearing who believe in the Unseen, and are constant in prayer, and spend on others out of what We provide for them as sustenance; and who believe in that which has been bestowed from on high upon thee, [O Prophet,] as well as in that which was bestowed before thy time: for it is they who in their innermost are certain of the life to come!...Behold, as for those who are bent on denying the truth – it is all one to them whether thou warnest them or dost not warn them: they will not believe. God has sealed their hearts and their hearing, and over their eyes is a veil; and awesome suffering awaits them.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
So If I was using these spells to hurt people, you would still respect the book ? And it's just using my First Amendment Rights to torture and kill people based on the writings of my spell book ? 😬Yeah okay.....
Now murder is illegal.And if you were tell a judge "Your Honor, I killed those people because its my religion", it wouldn't mitigate your case.
Good luck using the First in that instance. You'd be quickly convicted and throwd in solitary confinement in a SMSP.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I dont need to justify jack shitI have no respect for the Quran or the violence it promotes....I said it.
Islamaphobe.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Yes you have, and on many occasions you have made negative comments, sarcasm, judgements, etc. on my being bisexual.You have also sided with Sithsaber, arguing that Homosexuality is not normal, that it's immoral and base, etc.
Don't even try it Quiero...I remember everything you have said.
Yeah, I dont think being gay is normal. What's your point?
Besides, my views on being gay is irrelevent. The thread's topic is you insulting a religion. Just look at the title; "Muhammed- The Paedophile". You even had to throw "The" in there to emphsize your resentment.
hold on....
So, lets play pretend for a second.
Lets say I hate the segregation of women, treating children like property, child abuse, murder, war and all these things.
Now, lets say that there are books out there that in very uncertain terms condone and promote these things. Logic would dictate that I should hate these books.
So, please tell me why it is ME who is being called whateveraphobic for having a moral outrage against things nobody here would argue in support of.
If there is a religious book that promotes evil things, then I would hate it. If the members of a religion will not stand up and denounce these practices, they are evil by compliance. Just because you are indoctrinated by evil thoughts at a young age does not negate the evil done.
Honestly, I have no problem saying that I have little regard for those who would oppress their wives and daughters. I am sure they are good people as individuals, but their actions deserve condemnation. It does not matter if these people follow Islam or any other belief system.
Originally posted by inimalist
hold on....So, lets play pretend for a second.
Lets say I hate the segregation of women, treating children like property, child abuse, murder, war and all these things.
Now, lets say that there are books out there that in very uncertain terms condone and promote these things. Logic would dictate that I should hate these books.
So, please tell me why it is [b]ME
who is being called whateveraphobic for having a moral outrage against things nobody here would argue in support of.If there is a religious book that promotes evil things, then I would hate it. If the members of a religion will not stand up and denounce these practices, they are evil by compliance. Just because you are indoctrinated by evil thoughts at a young age does not negate the evil done.
Honestly, I have no problem saying that I have little regard for those who would oppress their wives and daughters. I am sure they are good people as individuals, but their actions deserve condemnation. It does not matter if these people follow Islam or any other belief system. [/B]
"Evil" is subjective and an over-used word that has become cliche.
Originally posted by inimalist
If the members of a religion will not stand up and denounce these practices, they are evil by compliance.
So guilt by association?? Which presupposes that the religion is "evil".
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
"Evil" is subjective and an over-used word that has become cliche.
God, people are so cute with that phrase. Postmodernism reigns ne pas?
so ya, there is no objective "evil" because evil is a word and thus a symbol for a subjective abstraction. damn, you got me, looks like its fine that people are abused all over the world and throughout time by evil ideologies. Hey, since we will never be able to speak in universal abstracts, it is impossible for us to make a moral value judgment.
Like, clearly you wouldn't support slavery, subjugation of women, child abuse, religious war or any of those things.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
So guilt by association??
no, guilt by action. There are moderates of every religion, and they will normally condemn the actions of the immoral extremes. A Muslim who does not force his daughters into arranged marriages is no differant than I. The ones that do are evil by their actions.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Urizen, there was no point in creating this thread. Yeah, Muhummad commitied and act of pedophilia. So what? Everyone knows that. You keep pointing that fact out just to give Muslims a hard time.Just admit that youre an Islamaphobe and move on.
Well I get the feeling your a homophobe. Kali seems to be making valid points about Islam but you keep ignoring them. Lil B makes complaints about Islam but I dont see you getting on her case.
When Kali stated he didnt like Islam because they executed gays you were like "so". So obvoulsy your beef with Kali isnt that hes against Islam its that you dont like him because hes gay.