6 billion people, 6 billion right interpretations of the Bible?

Started by Adam_PoE13 pages

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The sense of what is written in the Bible is what should be taken literally unless the context suggests otherwise. The Bible says that God is a Spirit which implies that God is not flesh. That is why I repeatedly wrote that you must use deductive reasoning [B]based on the Scriptures.

God presents many things in His Word for our learning and instruction that must be taught for us to truly grasp and comprehend. The Word of God must be taught. What I was doing was teaching you some things that are based on the Bible. I was not providing you with a verbatim reference as such, but with a premise and starting point that could be expounded. Well, what does it mean to teach? To teach means to

Main Entry: teach
Pronunciation: 'tEch
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): taught /'tot/; teach·ing
Etymology: Middle English techen to show, instruct, from Old English t[AE]can; akin to Old English tAcn sign -- more at TOKEN
transitive verb
1 a : to cause to know something <taught them a trade> b : to cause to know how <is teaching me to drive> c : to accustom to some action or attitude <teach students to think for themselves> d : to cause to know the disagreeable consequences of some action <I'll teach you to come home late>
2 : to guide the studies of
3 : to impart the knowledge of <teach algebra>
4 a : to instruct by precept, example, or experience b : to make known and accepted <experience teaches us our limitations>
5 : to conduct instruction regularly in <teach school>
intransitive verb : to provide instruction : act as a teacher
usage see LEARN
synonyms TEACH, INSTRUCT, EDUCATE, TRAIN, DISCIPLINE, SCHOOL mean to cause to acquire knowledge or skill. TEACH applies to any manner of imparting information or skill so that others may learn <taught us a lot about our planet>. INSTRUCT suggests methodical or formal teaching <instructs raw recruits in military drill>. EDUCATE implies development of the mind <more things than formal schooling serve to educate a person>. TRAIN stresses instruction and drill with a specific end in view <trained foreign pilots to operate the new aircraft>. DISCIPLINE implies training in habits of order and precision <a disciplined mind>. SCHOOL implies training or disciplining especially in what is hard to master <schooled the horse in five gaits>.

Jesus told a man named Nicodemus that unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. This is a premise that must be expounded for Nicodemus to understand. Similarly, when I state that God is a Spirit (based on the Bible), this is a premise that can be expounded. The Bible states that God created the Heavens and the earth. Also, the Bible states that God is a Spirit; therefore, it is safe to conclude (using deductive reasoning) that a Spirit created matter and life. That Spirit appears to have existed before the matter and life that it created. So then it is logical to conclude that matter comes from the spiritual world (that is where matter came from). It did not come from matter, it came from Spirit. Well this Spirit (i.e. God) must have existed or occupied another dimension that is not on the material, space-time continuum. This is pure logic. Do you follow me Devil King? You seem to keep harping on what you don't literally see in the Bible without understanding the reasoning that has logically devolved--deductively--to this point to support what I affirm. Do I believe that the Bible should be taken literally unless the context suggests otherwise--yes. Does everything that is taught from the Bible have a literal, word-for-word expression in the Bible--no, but that does not mean that it cannot be deduced. For example, the Bible states that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Question: do I need a literal, verbatim verse of Scripture that states, "God has preexisted all life and all matter" for me to understand that He had to have in order to be the Creator of it all? Case in point, your parents had to--absolute, imperative necessity--preexist you in order to bring you into the world. Can you see this Devil King? [/B]

By necessity his parents had to exist in order to bring him into the world . . . they also by necessity, had to exist inside of time.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
By necessity his parents had to exist in order to bring him into the world . . . they also by necessity, had to exist inside of time.

But his parents existing inside of time is not the crux of this discussion. I talk about his parents preexisting him to illustrate my point that matter (originally) had to come from somewhere other than other matter.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
^ This is a tautology.

Be that as it may, I was just responding to your statement.

🙂 😄 😎

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But his parents existing inside of time is not the crux of this discussion. I talk about his parents preexisting him to illustrate my point that matter (originally) had to come from somewhere other than other matter.

This does not change the fact that while trying to support one premise of your argument with an analogy, you have successfully refuted another.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Thundar is whob.

That is what I thought. 😉 But how do you "know" that?

Literary analysis and the fact that Thundar admitted to socking.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
This does not change the fact that while trying to support one premise of your argument with an analogy, you have successfully refuted another.

Explain. What have I refuted?

😕

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Explain. What have I refuted?

😕

That if God exists, that He exists outside of time.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
That if God exists, that He exists outside of time.

But--that--is--what--I--already--said.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
...In reference to time I believe that time with God is not as critical for Him as it is for us. God exists in a dimension where time does not exist. That dimension is governed by eternity....

But to expound even further on what I have previously stated Adam_PoE, let us suppose that time occupies the fourth dimension, I believe that God transcends all dimensions simply because He is the First Cause. So God still dwells outside of time.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But--that--is--what--I--already--said.

But to expound even further on what I have previously stated Adam_PoE, let us suppose that time occupies the fourth dimension, I believe that God transcends all dimensions simply because He is the First Cause. So God still dwells outside of time.

^ This is a tautology.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[b]then use a little deductive reasoning. [/B]

Was that a joke?

Originally posted by Devil King
Was that a joke?

Does JIA ever joke? 😱

JIA is just eternally lost. (and apparently confused on concepts of logic)

Originally posted by Alliance
JIA is just eternally lost. (and apparently confused on concepts of logic)

Logic is sinful. 😉

Originally posted by Alliance
JIA is just eternally lost. (and apparently confused on concepts of logic)

He once was lost, but now is found,
Was blind, but now he sees.

. . . crap JIA is missing again!

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
He once was lost, but now is found,
Was blind, but now he sees.

. . . crap JIA is missing again!

No I am not I am right here see:

lamo

pizza

pepsi

book

artist

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No I am not I am right here see:

lamo

pizza

pepsi

book

artist

Do you paint?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Do you paint?

No.

🙁 🙂 😉 😱 😄

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No.

🙁 🙂 😉 😱 😄

Well, don't lie with your smilies. 😛 😆

Re: 6 billion people, 6 billion right interpretations of the Bible?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Are there 6 billion right interpretations of Bible Scriptures?

Are there 6 billion right (i.e. winning) number sequences in the Lottery?

Are there 6 billion right (i.e. true) genomes for one person?

Are there 6 billion right (i.e. correct) combinations to your lock?

Are there 6 billion right (i.e. accurate) numbers for dialing your home?

Are there 6 billion right (i.e. correct) addresses to your house?

Are there 6 billion right (i.e. true) suns in our solar system?

Are there 6 billion right (i.e. precise) passwords for logging on to your computer?

Are there 6 billion right Social Security Numbers for one person?

Are there 6 billion right (i.e. true) Presidents of the United States at once

Are there 6 billion right (i.e. biological) parents for one child?

Are there 6 billion right (i.e. true) ways to God?

Are there 6 billion right (i.e. accurate) fingerprints for one person?

Are there 6 billion right (i.e. true) interpretations of the Bible?

The answer to all of these questions is no. In each scenario I have asked a rhetorical question to emphasize the fact there is only one true (or correct) event or occurrence in all of the cases. So then why do people get upset when you tell them that there is only one correct interpretation of the Bible? I am not saying that I always correctly interpret the Scriptures (or as the Bible states it "rightly divides the Word of Truth"😉. My supposition is simply that there is only one true, accurate, and correct interpretation. I believe that my claim that the Bible has only one correct interpretation is well-founded (as opposed to the assertion by so many people that the Bible has many interpretations, that it is not absolute, and that it can mean whatever anyone wants it to mean). I believe that people are confusing revelations of Scripture with a new interpretation of Scripture. I believe that Bible Scriptures may have many facets of revelation (I am not referring to the Book of Revelation, but facets of revelation). What this means is that there are times when you read the Bible that you will see some new aspect of what you are reading that you have never seen before. It is almost like viewing a three-dimensional object from a different angle (but it is the same object). Similarly, the Bible gives or yields new facets of revelation in proportion to our level of spiritual growth and capacity to comprehend it as the Holy Spirit illuminates that particular Scripture. I have had Scriptures that I have read for years all of a suddenly seem to reveal spiritual truth from an entirely different perspective (sort of like a paradigm shift)--but it is the same Scripture and interpretation, I am just able to see it from another side. For example, in all of the mathematic disciplines that exist (Basic math, Differential Equations, Calculus, Pre-Algebra, Trigonometry, Geometry, Intermediate Algebra, etc.), there are still only four primary operations: addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division. It appears that all of mathematics involves one or more of these basic operations in some way. So the Bible has many revelations (i.e. many facets or perspectives of understanding the same subject) but only one correct interpretation of the subject matter.

Maybe they're all utter shit and you just keep spouting bigotry in the guise of some supposedly deep philosophical query?