Superman vs vision, hercules, wonderman, sersi, she hulk, hulk, mrs marvel

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
The only real threat here is Sersi, who can be taken out via speedblitz.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
He can take apart the team piece by piece before one of them can blink...

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And what exactly of that little speed feat makes you think he can take at least three top tier threats at the same time?

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Doomsday and Darkseid are also fast enough to take this team down before they know what's happening.

Batman isn't worth mentioning on your part... the man has kicked the Spectre across the face, and made him bleed...

1- Before they know what is happening? When have you seen them attacking a top team team before anyone even knew what was happening? I havent.

2- Its true. He really isent worh mentioning.

Originally posted by Draco69
Hercules is grounded. He can't do shit.

And Superman barely speedblitz anyone. At leats Herc has a track record of sending shit to fliers to bring them down. And we know Superman will come closer, sooner or later.

One on one, he sure would have major problems with Superman. With all this backup? I dont see it.

Originally posted by Draco69
Sersi is the main threat, the others are inconsequential. Three of them are useless since they can fly anyway..

Only two of these cant fly. Are you saying, those cant keep the guy busy to at least the stealth member or the powerhouses make theyr move? Once they get closer, Supes will be hardpressed to go in a slug.

Originally posted by Draco69
Vision's intangibility can be countered with Superman's own intangibility (vibrating his molecules a la Flash)...but he's too slow to get close to Superman anyway...

If we assume they would all stand still, sure. But it likely wont because the others can make the distraction. Alot of Visons MO in the Avengers its exactly like that.

Originally posted by Draco69
It all comes down to Sersi....other than that, none of them have the speed to counter his.

Superman usually needs more than just speed to finish up powerhouses. Most have the durability and tenacy to withstand at least his initial attacks. Plus even the grounded folk here have faced super speed before.

wonderman has instantaneous reflexes supes WILL NOT speedblitz him. plus hulk no pis has and will give supes the fight of his life. supes is great but team wins

Originally posted by Condor
Hulk sits in a corner far away and pisses himself off all the way, comes and joins the fight, game over.

Supes doens't even need to grapple with Hulk to take him out. He could sizzle him from afar as well as most of the opposition here with heat vision alone. Whoever is left standing meets a light speed uppercut that puts them in orbit.

Clark for the majority.

wallbash I'm getting really frustrated posting in this thread.

"And Vison since hes like J`ohn with intagillable tricks that have put the likes of Juggernaut momentarily down. And both Herc and Hulk who can physically hang with Superman, and more three others who are close to top tier and thus strong enough to at least keep him busy."

"And what exactly of that little speed feat makes you think he can take at least three top tier threats at the same time?" chair You fail. please insert quarter and try again.

"1- Before they know what is happening? When have you seen them attacking a top team team before anyone even knew what was happening? I havent.

2- Its true. He really isent worh mentioning." 1: Darkseid has destroyed the JLA, JSA, LSH and many others. ALMOST ALL OF WHOM ARE WAY OVER THE AVENGERS! Hell, the Legion of Super Heroes is one of the most powerful teams in comics, over 50-60 heroes, AND HE SOLOED THEM! Doomsday has beaten the JLA and other groups. 2. Batman can beat this team with prep. 😛

"And Superman barely speedblitz anyone. At leats Herc has a track record of sending shit to fliers to bring them down. And we know Superman will come closer, sooner or later.

One on one, he sure would have major problems with Superman. With all this backup? I dont see it." shocklaugh Superman usually speedblitzes, he just rarely goes all out. Herc can't stop someone this much faster than him. ****ING A, if this was Sentry fighting this team, there wouldn't be this much bullshit. "OMGZOR, THE SENTRY PWNS THEM!"

"If we assume they would all stand still, sure. But it likely wont because the others can make the distraction. Alot of Visons MO in the Avengers its exactly like that." Been done, and by better than Vision. Doesn't work on Superman.

"Only two of these cant fly. Are you saying, those cant keep the guy busy to at least the stealth member or the powerhouses make theyr move? Once they get closer, Supes will be hardpressed to go in a slug." Nope. 😄 They can't stop him. NONE OF THEM HAS LIGHTSPEED COMBAT ABILITIES!

"Superman usually needs more than just speed to finish up powerhouses. Most have the durability and tenacy to withstand at least his initial attacks. Plus even the grounded folk here have faced super speed before." AHEM, DC powerhouses have withstood it, but they could beat most of this team too. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS!? 😠 THEY HAVE NEVER FACED A FASTER THAN LIGHT SPEEDBLITZ! ALMOST NOBODY IN MARVEL EARTH CAN SPEEDBLITZ SUPERMAN!

God damn it, it's like arguing with Mider.

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Originally posted by TricksterPriest
wallbash I'm getting really frustrated posting in this thread.

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Here, TP.

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i don't see what is so hard to understand about the speedblitz. this is a forum fight, the characters fight to the best of their abilities. supes speedblitzes faster than they can react and takes them all out. easy as that. the superman hating going on in here and the rest of the forum is incredible? what the hell did supes do to you guys? rape your mother while erasing your game saves and taking the last slice of pizza?

Originally posted by emporerpants
i don't see what is so hard to understand about the speedblitz. this is a forum fight, the characters fight to the best of their abilities. supes speedblitzes faster than they can react and takes them all out. easy as that. the superman hating going on in here and the rest of the forum is incredible? what the hell did supes do to you guys? rape your mother while erasing your game saves and taking the last slice of pizza?

Yeah, seriously. 🤨 Thanks for the beer Bobby. 👆

you guys ever notice that the same people who complain that supes is too powerful, or is a dumb character because he's so powerful, are also the same ones that seem to claim he loses to other "cooler" characters? such hyprocisy.

Originally posted by carver9
Everyone on this forum, just ignore Juntai, superboy prime and
TricksterPriest, they always vote for superman and it is hard to debate against them. I have went to almost every superman battle and they voted with him, even against thanos. If you have common knowledge of each character, you should know that superman dont have any kind of way of beating these people and I can tell by the people that have already voted would know that superman stands no chance in this debate.

Thanks for the votes, it was much appreciated. I was just trying to prove a point to someone.

Which is exactly why I said Surfer defeats Superman, right? Or also the same reason why I believe Thor can defeat Superman if he fights smart, right? Please. rolleyes1

Don't be angry because what we're saying is the truth. He can simply take out the entire team before they get a chance to react. There's nothing they can do to stop that from happening.

Originally posted by mighty adam
wonderman has instantaneous reflexes supes WILL NOT speedblitz him. plus hulk no pis has and will give supes the fight of his life. supes is great but team wins

laughing Hulk without PIS giving Supes the fight of his life?

The irony. I feel like siggying your comment because it's awe inspiring and filled of logical thinking.

Originally posted by tkitna
Its amazing that people think Superman can solo this when almost all of those top tiers have fought Gladiator (equal or even above Superman) and held their own or won.

Some of you need to put the crack pipe down.

What you guys need to do is stop hating. If this was the Surfer no one would even dare say the team has a chance. Besides people need to stop comparing Gladiator to Supes; he is a jobber of epic proportions while Superman is not.

7 against 1?

Try a city full of super powered villains:

2. An army of Superman doppleganger robots that, as you all might guess, also posess super speed:
This same army was used to conquer earth.

Superman's speedblitz and abilities granted via super speed:

1. Speedblitz

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2. Intangibility

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3. Invisibility

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Wonder what the heck happened to that post, but in any case:

Heat Vision

1. Supes heat vision is off the charts. They can meassure how hot a star is, but not Superman's heat vision:

2. A low-intensity heat vision beam being shot at the moon from Earth:

3. Heat vision being used at super speed:

4. Uses heat vision to bomb multiple opponents from outside Earth's atmosphere

Superman's intangibility via super speed:

Superman's invisibility via super speed:

Superman using his speed along with heat vision and physical force:

That's probably enough.

Superman vibrates through Vision, and destroys his omniversal structure.

Yeah this happened in a superman comic, except superman saved the omniverse by vibrating through it.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Which is exactly why I said Surfer defeats Superman, right? Or also the same reason why I believe Thor can defeat Superman if he fights smart, right? Please. rolleyes1

Don't be angry because what we're saying is the truth. He can simply take out the entire team before they get a chance to react. There's nothing they can do to stop that from happening.

laughing Hulk without PIS giving Supes the fight of his life?

The irony. I feel like siggying your comment because it's awe inspiring and filled of logical thinking.

What you guys need to do is stop hating. If this was the Surfer no one would even dare say the team has a chance. Besides people need to stop comparing Gladiator to Supes; he is a jobber of epic proportions while Superman is not.

shit we like using...like one of supe's basic powers? so why is supe's speed pis but hulk's strength isn't?

Superman will get turned into a tampon by Sersi.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Superman will get turned into a tampon by Sersi.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Then he would vibrate at high speeds...
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Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Wonder what the heck happened to that post, but in any case:

Heat Vision

1. Supes heat vision is off the charts. They can meassure how hot a star is, but not Superman's heat vision:

2. A low-intensity heat vision beam being shot at the moon from Earth:

3. Heat vision being used at super speed:

4. Uses heat vision to bomb multiple opponents from outside Earth's atmosphere

Superman's intangibility via super speed:

Superman's invisibility via super speed:

Superman using his speed along with heat vision and physical force:

That's probably enough.

Whats your point about these pictures. Wolverine fought every villian and hero in wolverine vs newyork. Hulk fought the entire team of avengers by himself. Wolverine fought the entire xmen by himself and alpha flight by himself and excaliber by himself. Juggernaut fought xforce, xmen, excaliber. Sabertooth fought the entire xfactor team by himself.

Gladiator fought the fantastic four along with the xmen by himself but what that mean. Do I think that any of these people could solo this team because they did some team busting feats, nope I dont. You just dont get it. Almost everyone on that list could take a dozen of superman punches and jump right back up (except MAYBE she hulk). Next time people put superman against surfer I dont want to see none of these people that is voting for superman vote for him since surfer is waaaaaaaaaaay superior to superman in the speed dept. He could just keep speed blitzing superman with the power cosmic until he faint.

Like I said there are two people on this list that could kill superman by themselves and with the rest it would overwhelm him and he would end up falling real soon. Gladiator flew 100 times the speed of light (by the way thats faster than superman have went his entire career. Gladiator has also punched a planet to dust (never witness superman do anything close to that. Seen superman struggle to move a planet and needed the aid of martian manhunter and wonderwoman.) and hulk seemed to defeat him and I think gladiator>>superman (full confidence gladiator).

You are a true superman fan if you think that he could even take two of these power houses alone. You need to tattoo a superman emblem across your a** because you are doing a lot of kissing. When I stop seeing superman get his a** handed to him by batman and wonderwoman, then maybe I would think that he have a chance against this team.