Superman vs vision, hercules, wonderman, sersi, she hulk, hulk, mrs marvel

Originally posted by carver9
Whats your point about these pictures. Wolverine fought every villian and hero in wolverine vs newyork. Hulk fought the entire team of avengers by himself. Wolverine fought the entire xmen by himself and alpha flight by himself and excaliber by himself. Juggernaut fought xforce, xmen, excaliber. Sabertooth fought the entire xfactor team by himself.

Gladiator fought the fantastic four along with the xmen by himself but what that mean. Do I think that any of these people could solo this team because they did some team busting feats, nope I dont. You just dont get it. Almost everyone on that list could take a dozen of superman punches and jump right back up (except MAYBE she hulk). Next time people put superman against surfer I dont want to see none of these people that is voting for superman vote for him since surfer is waaaaaaaaaaay superior to superman in the speed dept. He could just keep speed blitzing superman with the power cosmic until he faint.

Like I said there are two people on this list that could kill superman by themselves and with the rest it would overwhelm him and he would end up falling real soon. Gladiator flew 100 times the speed of light (by the way thats faster than superman have went his entire career. Gladiator has also punched a planet to dust (never witness superman do anything close to that. Seen superman struggle to move a planet and needed the aid of martian manhunter and wonderwoman.) and hulk seemed to defeat him and I think gladiator>>superman (full confidence gladiator).

You are a true superman fan if you think that he could even take two of these power houses alone. You need to tattoo a superman emblem across your a** because you are doing a lot of kissing. When I stop seeing superman get his a** handed to him by batman and wonderwoman, then maybe I would think that he have a chance against this team.

Originally posted by emporerpants
i don't see what is so hard to understand about the speedblitz. this is a forum fight, the characters fight to the best of their abilities. supes speedblitzes faster than they can react and takes them all out. easy as that. the superman hating going on in here and the rest of the forum is incredible? what the hell did supes do to you guys? rape your mother while erasing your game saves and taking the last slice of pizza?

Speedblitz is probably the worst understood and yet most cited ability that Superman has. I've taken issue with it several times and in every instance I've seen it, it hasn't done half as much as people claim it. I'll continue to debate it in this thread with anybody who would like to try.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk

Co-signed, and profiled. This thread=fail. 👇

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Co-signed, and profiled. This thread=fail. 👇

no, the fact that your mom drank heavily while she was pregnant with you makes YOUR posts fail.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I doubt that speedblitz would take everyone out as you mentioned quite so easily. Gladiator speed-blitzed Wonderman from behind, Wonderman was hurt but his durability allowed him to regain his composure and grab Gladiator in a headlock. Hercules and Hulk are arguably more durable than he. Vision can make himself intangible, so I don't see Superman's speedblitz killing him. Why do you think Superman can speedblitz in a single instant and be capable of knocking every member out? It took him several seconds to take out Mongul via a speedblitz. Indeed, more than a few seconds.

Speedblitz is probably the worst understood and yet most cited ability that Superman has. I've taken issue with it several times and in every instance I've seen it, it hasn't done half as much as people claim it. I'll continue to debate it in this thread with anybody who would like to try.

True, I don't think I have ever seen a Superman speedbiltz take out a top tier or even just a near top tier character fast enough for him to be able to take out of group of them before they could react.

Originally posted by BobbyD
Supes doens't even need to grapple with Hulk to take him out. He could sizzle him from afar as well as most of the opposition here with heat vision alone. Whoever is left standing meets a light speed uppercut that puts them in orbit.

Clark for the majority.

You also must have special editions that cleary show Clarc usually taking hero powerhouses in space with uppercups.

*shrugs again*

Originally posted by BobbyD
chair You fail. please insert quarter and try again.

You should really hit your head in the wall. What does a scan of pre crisis Superboy matter here, exactly? Are you even on scheduale? Pre crisis is long gone and we are discussing post crisis. Hello?

Originally posted by BobbyD
[2- Its true. He really isent worh mentioning." 1: Darkseid has destroyed the JLA, JSA, LSH and many others. ALMOST ALL OF WHOM ARE WAY OVER THE AVENGERS! Hell, the Legion of Super Heroes is one of the most powerful teams in comics, over 50-60 heroes, AND HE SOLOED THEM! Doomsday has beaten the JLA and other groups. 2. Batman can beat this team with prep. 😛.

Again, you are using an example of pre crisis Darkseid. Since the crisis Darkseid as been having problems with top tier treats as regular showings go.

You are not on scheduale here.

And no, he couldnt. Not all have weakness he would easily play with.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
[Superman usually speedblitzes, he just rarely goes all out. Herc can't stop someone this much faster than him

Even when you should be using post crisis high feats, not pre. For you to get an ideia of why he wont one shot any powerhouses here, at least three guys here at theyr best have had planetary shaking force. As for going all out, all i see is the likes of WW, Orion, CM, BA and Lobo still standing up against a non holding back Superman. Se the pattern presented here? They are all top tier class.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
[HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS!? 😠 THEY HAVE NEVER FACED A FASTER THAN LIGHT SPEEDBLITZ! ALMOST NOBODY IN MARVEL EARTH CAN SPEEDBLITZ SUPERMAN!

You can say it as many times you want. Its still wrong. Not only Superman does NOT speedblitz regulary against opponnents he also does NOT if ever speedblitzed anyone while going faster than ligth, post crisis. If anything you have one example of it and the opponent in question, made it out alive.

So not only you dont know shit about the others here, you also still think about pre crisis, when this isent pre crisis. Neither Dragonball. You also dont need to speedblitz Superman to get him into submission, and i feel like a dork for needing to tell you that.

A smarter dork, still.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
God damn it, it's like arguing with Mider. 🙁

Originally posted by emporerpants
i don't see what is so hard to understand about the speedblitz. this is a forum fight, the characters fight to the best of their abilities. supes speedblitzes faster than they can react and takes them all out. easy as that. the superman hating going on in here and the rest of the forum is incredible? what the hell did supes do to you guys? rape your mother while erasing your game saves and taking the last slice of pizza?

And may i ask why someone HAS to hate on Superman just because one have the common sense to not wank and have him winning this wet dream of a match?

Hes outgunned here. He has 3 people that hang with him physically and two of them can get stronger than anyone here. Its not about hate, its about knowing what characters can do. You have here strength enough to deal with him, stealth enough to deal with him, magic and matter control enough to deal with him as well energy attacks from at least two members to keep him on tracks. The one thing they dont have its higher speed to deal with him, but it counteracts because Superman doesnt have all those advantages i mentioned first against these opponents either.

Then you have the distractions. So surely someone needs to be out of his mind to not have Superman beat this one up. The hipocrasy. lol at that. Stop the winning and concead that your toy boy cant win them all. Using examples where hes going against robots and speedblitz them *shrugs* or against villains that normally lose against him anyway doesnt translate on how he beats this team and the respective teamwork.

On top of it all, using one high feats of one character and shit on the others is crapolla tactics. I could say that since it took more than one blast from the original Korvac to kill Hercules, that Superman wont do jack. But i dont. Why? Because i use a marvelous debate tactic. Its called "using the characters average". And that works even when ALL are at theyr respective bests.

These guys have to fight Superman on his terms. Supes can fly, so can Vision and Wonderman but those guys are not threat to him. If Superman uses his powers to their abilities he will win. But if he chooses to fight at using half or less of his power-set then we have a match.

Actually Ms. Marvel and Sersi can also fly, plus while Simon isn't beating him solo he is a threat as all his fights with Thor show.

Your comment about her actually technically being Binary went relatively unnoticed.

Originally posted by olympian
Because heat vision surely worked against Thor *shrugs*.

You also must have special editions that cleary show Clarc usually taking hero powerhouses in space with uppercups.

*shrugs again*

You should really hit your head in the wall. What does a scan of pre crisis Superboy matter here, exactly? Are you even on scheduale? Pre crisis is long gone and we are discussing post crisis. Hello?

Again, you are using an example of pre crisis Darkseid. Since the crisis Darkseid as been having problems with top tier treats as regular showings go.

You are not on scheduale here.

And no, he couldnt. Not all have weakness he would easily play with.

Originally posted by olympian
For Superman nowadays to *regulary* speedblitz people left and rigth, it would have to happen in the major bulk of his appearances. It doesnt. As for Herc, he already stopped people faster than him. Your big problem here its you using high feats for one character and knowing shit about the others.

Even when you should be using post crisis high feats, not pre. For you to get an ideia of why he wont one shot any powerhouses here, at least three guys here at theyr best have had planetary shaking force. As for going all out, all i see is the likes of WW, Orion, CM, BA and Lobo still standing up against a non holding back Superman. Se the pattern presented here? They are all top tier class.

You can say it as many times you want. Its still wrong. Not only Superman does NOT speedblitz regulary against opponnents he also does NOT if ever speedblitzed anyone while going faster than ligth, post crisis. If anything you have one example of it and the opponent in question, made it out alive.

So not only you dont know shit about the others here, you also still think about pre crisis, when this isent pre crisis. Neither Dragonball. You also dont need to speedblitz Superman to get him into submission, and i feel like a dork for needing to tell you that.

A smarter dork, still.

Does he also casually owns you? Man up, its life.

"You should really hit your head in the wall. What does a scan of pre crisis Superboy matter here, exactly? Are you even on scheduale? Pre crisis is long gone and we are discussing post crisis. Hello?" Pre-Crisis is now back in continuity, but his post crisis feats are more than enough to crush this team.

"Again, you are using an example of pre crisis Darkseid. Since the crisis Darkseid as been having problems with top tier treats as regular showings go."
WRONG. The Crisis NEVER affected Darkseid. You gravely underestimate him. Hell, he just owned Orion, Mr. Miracle, Firestorm and a few others.

"For Superman nowadays to *regulary* speedblitz people left and rigth, it would have to happen in the major bulk of his appearances. It doesnt. As for Herc, he already stopped people faster than him. Your big problem here its you using high feats for one character and knowing shit about the others." 🤨 I know the feats of the other characters. I also know that Superman tops them by a big margin. MY GOD, HE'S HIGH HERALD AND I CAN MAKE A LEGITIMATE CASE FOR TRANCENDANT FOR HIM! 🤨 Why is it so hard for you to accept just how powerful he is? It's not a matter of high or low feats, IT'S THAT HE'S TOO DAMN POWERFUL FOR THIS TEAM TO STOP!

"Even when you should be using post crisis high feats, not pre. For you to get an ideia of why he wont one shot any powerhouses here, at least three guys here at theyr best have had planetary shaking force. As for going all out, all i see is the likes of WW, Orion, CM, BA and Lobo still standing up against a non holding back Superman. Se the pattern presented here? They are all top tier class." I fail to see your point. Everyone you just named could also solo this team.

"You can say it as many times you want. Its still wrong. Not only Superman does NOT speedblitz regulary against opponnents he also does NOT if ever speedblitzed anyone while going faster than ligth, post crisis. If anything you have one example of it and the opponent in question, made it out alive. " He has, and you are being facetious. examples were dropped on the last page, and most of them were post-crisis. And those are DC opponents, most of whom are a cut above the people the avengers usually fight.

The utter insanity and hatred towards Supes in this thread is mind-boggling.

🙄

and since this is essentially spite, this is now called for.

the mongooses are making a list of shitzforbrain users, and we're checking it twice 😐 Your on the list twice, now buddy(not you trickster)

I can't believe the crap TricksterPreist just posted. Superman transcendent of heralds? Wonderwoman soloing this team? Black Adam soloing this team? Just wow.

This only turned into a spite thread when your fanboyish attitudes even suggested that Superman would destroy this team in a second. Utterly ridiculous.

All you do is rely on your own idea of Superman's speedblitz and act as if that is what he does. Not a single one of you have even addressed the problems with your ridiculous interpretations. Superman couldn't even speedblitz Mongul in a second. He didn't even speedblitz Equus in a single second and Equus got shots off on Superman. What the hell makes you think he's speedblitzing all these characters in a single second without being touched? This is fanboyism at it's worst.

Some of us actually read Superman and understand what he does. It's so sad that some Superman fans take their homoerotic wet dreams and make Superman sound like a PIS-riddled non-character. Superman doesn't get half the respect that he should and it's idiot fanboys like you all that make him look bad and engender the Superman hate here on KMC.

Superman wins. Speedbiltz.

Originally posted by carver9
Whats your point about these pictures. Wolverine fought every villian and hero in wolverine vs newyork. Hulk fought the entire team of avengers by himself. Wolverine fought the entire xmen by himself and alpha flight by himself and excaliber by himself. Juggernaut fought xforce, xmen, excaliber. Sabertooth fought the entire xfactor team by himself.

Gladiator fought the fantastic four along with the xmen by himself but what that mean. Do I think that any of these people could solo this team because they did some team busting feats, nope I dont. You just dont get it. Almost everyone on that list could take a dozen of superman punches and jump right back up (except MAYBE she hulk). Next time people put superman against surfer I dont want to see none of these people that is voting for superman vote for him since surfer is waaaaaaaaaaay superior to superman in the speed dept. He could just keep speed blitzing superman with the power cosmic until he faint.

Like I said there are two people on this list that could kill superman by themselves and with the rest it would overwhelm him and he would end up falling real soon. Gladiator flew 100 times the speed of light (by the way thats faster than superman have went his entire career. Gladiator has also punched a planet to dust (never witness superman do anything close to that. Seen superman struggle to move a planet and needed the aid of martian manhunter and wonderwoman.) and hulk seemed to defeat him and I think gladiator>>superman (full confidence gladiator).

You are a true superman fan if you think that he could even take two of these power houses alone. You need to tattoo a superman emblem across your a** because you are doing a lot of kissing. When I stop seeing superman get his a** handed to him by batman and wonderwoman, then maybe I would think that he have a chance against this team.

The truth is out there; you are just to naive to grasp it: Speedblitz.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I can't believe the crap TricksterPreist just posted. Superman transcendent of heralds? Wonderwoman soloing this team? Black Adam soloing this team? Just wow.

This only turned into a spite thread when your fanboyish attitudes even suggested that Superman would destroy this team in a second. Utterly ridiculous.

All you do is rely on your own idea of Superman's speedblitz and act as if that is what he does. Not a single one of you have even addressed the problems with your ridiculous interpretations. Superman couldn't even speedblitz Mongul in a second. He didn't even speedblitz Equus in a single second and Equus got shots off on Superman. What the hell makes you think he's speedblitzing all these characters in a single second without being touched? This is fanboyism at it's worst.

Some of us actually read Superman and understand what he does. It's so sad that some Superman fans take their homoerotic wet dreams and make Superman sound like a PIS-riddled non-character. Superman doesn't get half the respect that he should and it's idiot fanboys like you all that make him look bad and engender the Superman hate here on KMC.

By the way I thought people would be able to understand my points with the scans, but I guess I'll have to elaborate. Speedblitz + Heat Vision from outside the atmosphere + intangibility = dead team. Sersi is the first to go down. The insane ammount of bricks won't do shit to Superman. He can just easily blast them with heat vision from the ****ing moon at super speed with accurate precision with his telescopic, x-ray & microscopic vision.

You sir are the one disrespecting Supes by thinking these grounded bricks stand a chance. Their numbers are no challenge for the vast options Superman has in his arsenal to take them out.

Speedblitz, just to be annoying.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Speedblitz isn't a stupid option. He is outnumbered. He knows he has a vast speed advantage. The most logical thing for him to do would be to use this speed advantage to even the odds. What I think is illogical is for him to decide to brawl it out with people that are near his strength level.

Vision's intangibility is the reason I said 1 second into the fight the team will be reduced to Sersi, Mrs. Marvel & Vision.