Originally posted by JuntaiYou hypocrite. You're twisting words and arguing semantics. "It's a viable tactic, because we know he possesses this level of speed."
Hence, what I'm speaking of with your double standard, comparing your stance in the Surfer thread, to here.Superman has shown he can blitz.
Superman has shown that when he moves, he is fast enough to make Hulk[I'll use him as an average there] seem like he's standing still.
Superman has shown the physical strength required to down Hulk.Just because he doesn't do it in comics, doesn't mean he's incapable. Read the forum rules again. They speficially state what I'm speaking of, in regards to Flash instead of Superman. "It's a viable tactic, because we know he posseses this level of speed".
I don't get how you don't accept this.
I'm not conceeding any countered points, because you haven't countered any in a satisfactory manner. Only disregarded in complete hypocrisy.
You want me to assume this: "It's a viable tactic, because we know he possesses this level of speed and strength at the same time without having to sacrifice either."
I've directed you to the scans and showed you how that isn't true. Even Superman fans don't assume your ridiculousness. F@ck you. That's as clear a cut way to express my opinion of your purely sh1t points. I've just countered every single one of your arguments and you keep trying to use semantics to dodge the obvious. That's just being a sore loser and just because you got SPB over there cheering you on doesn't lend your inane points any credence in the slightest.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Actually, I didn't anticipate anything, it was just an added thought.
The fact that you pretty much quoted my response before I could even type it shows to me that you were anticipating my response beforehand. That tells me, that even you recognize the fallacy of your hypothetical.But your response to the Surfer is something I will address. Surfer has been seen to be multitasking a lot. Indeed, the fight he has with Red Shift in the blackhole? Another Galactus herald? Let me explain to you the full circumstances of the fight:
Surfer is travelling with Alicia Masters in space. Surfer has transmuted Alicia's clothing into a nanotech armor. He also is using his power at the same time to heal her blindness and allow her to see. Red Shift attacks her and hurts her gravely. He creates a healing barrier to save Alicia Masters. The black hole is created, he uses his power to create another barrier to protect her from the gravitational forces of the black hole and re-energizes her armor. At the same time, he powers his board to hypervelocity to escape the black hole and uses his concentration to guide it back to Earth. He throws a blast at Red Shift, causing them to be both forced into the black hole. Fights him inside, shunts himself into the Microverse, leaving Red Shift there.
All that pretty much at the same time he has diverted all those energies already. This scan sums up his multitasking pretty well. So no, I don't think I'm taking a double standard in the least:
Everyone has a showing or two of multitasking. Take for example, Superman flying around using various powers on the Imperiex Probe, or Superman flying around the team Captain Atom led to come take him down in Superman/Batman.
Superman has proven the speed, and he's proven his physical strength.
I can't help it if you can't add it up, in the battle against this team.... but at the same time you think Surfer is doing all of that stuff against a character as fast and brutal as a bloodlusted Superman.
Seriously. The utter hypocrisy of your points has left me pretty angry. You just posted that I was taking a double standard with Surfer and that you find it ridiculous to believe he could make a black hole and fight and drain energies or re-energize energies or transmute all at the same time and now here you are arguing that Superman can bear his full-strength in each and every one of his super speedblitz shots. I can't believe this. You utter hypocrite.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0I never said Surfer couldn't move fast and multitask. I'm saying Superman can as well, [especially flying fast, and hitting hard, against characters who are basically statues to him] and the idea you support one, without the other is hypocritical.
Seriously. The utter hypocrisy of your points has left me pretty angry. You just posted that I was taking a double standard with Surfer and that you find it ridiculous to believe he could make a black hole and fight and drain energies or re-energize energies or transmute all at the same time and now here you are arguing that Superman can bear his full-strength in each and every one of his super speedblitz shots. I can't believe this. You utter hypocrite.
Originally posted by Juntai
I'll take that as a win, and go off to watch the draft.
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Yeah, I think our work is done. Thanks Jun, Superboy and everyone who argued in defense of Big blue. I think the 49ers are cleaning up this year. Or do you mean Goober's draft?
Onedumb, I have only one thing to say to you.
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Originally posted by JuntaiYeah run away and watch the playoffs. You know your argument is utterly a losing one. I just showed you Surefer multitasking with healing, forcefields, transmutation, hypervelocities, microverse jumping against a Herald level foe INSIDE a black hole and you have the gall to suggest that I'm taking a double standard. And you still haven't proven with one single god damn scan that Superman's speedblitz punches would all be full strength throughout the speedblitz. Hypocrite. Utter pure hypocrite. Take your loss and sit on it for a while. I've just thoroughly owned you.
Actually, I didn't anticipate anything, it was just an added thought.Everyone has a showing or two of multitasking. Take for example, Superman flying around using various powers on the Imperiex Probe, or Superman flying around the team Captain Atom led to come take him down in Superman/Batman.
Superman has proven the speed, and he's proven his physical strength.
I can't help it if you can't add it up, in the battle against this team.... but at the same time you think Surfer is doing all of that stuff against a character as fast and brutal as a bloodlusted Superman.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Uh-huh.
Yeah run away and watch the playoffs. You know your argument is utterly a losing one. I just showed you Surefer multitasking with healing, forcefields, transmutation, hypervelocities, microverse jumping against a Herald level foe INSIDE a black hole and you have the gall to suggest that I'm taking a double standard. And you still haven't proven with one single god damn scan that Superman's speedblitz punches would all be full strength throughout the speedblitz. Hypocrite. Utter pure hypocrite. Take your loss and sit on it for a while. I've just thoroughly owned you.
Originally posted by JuntaiSurfer isn't just multitasking and moving fast. He's transmutating, healing, creating forcefields, imbuing his board with hypervelocity, while drawing off Red Shift's attacks in a black hole and beating the frigging herald in the black hole. Don't try to selectively read your way out of your crap. Surfer can multitask on the level I was arguing in Superman v. Silver Surfer. I just showed you a scan of him using no less than six-seven abilities.
I never said Surfer couldn't move fast and multitask. I'm saying Superman can as well, [especially flying fast, and hitting hard, against characters who are basically statues to him] and the idea you support one, without the other is hypocritical.
And tricksterpriest, you are a sad individual who couldn't even argue one single point of mine. Or perhaps you're just trying to spam the page to cover up the fact that you were soundly spanked? You've been repeatedly pointed out to be a fool throughout this entire thread. Go read some imaginary Sentry comic where he's breaking adamantium and use that in another thread.
And SPB, me insulting tricksterpriest was my characterizations of his argument, not his angry reactions. I said his arguments were childish, not his all CAPs, expletive ridden angry response. Sit down, be quiet and let me spank Juntai on the arguments. You want to post ad hominem crap about my feelings while I post, do it in a PM. I'm pointing out Juntai's hypocrisy which weakens his argument and I am disappointed that he would stoop so low while ignoring how I just rebutted every single post of his. Boy, I can only imagine what he was thinking when I laid that Surfer scan on top of him.
Look, I was wrong on the Sentry feat. Ok, my bad. But I kicked YOUR ass as I recall. You didn't counter a single one of my points or Jun's, or SBP's. And I hate Sentry...... 😑 He's probably my single most hated character in comics right now.
You just won't admit it ever. That Superman curbstomps your precious team. Because hate him if you want, but you need to respect the man of steel. Because he is simply better than most, stronger and greater. I may hate his wrtiing at times, but I respect the character for his ideals.
But that doesn't come into play in a forum battle. And in that arena, he is among the best for his level.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest#1 Show me a scan where Superman takes out a high-tier durable foe in one second.
Look, I was wrong on the Sentry feat. Ok, my bad. But I kicked YOUR ass as I recall. You didn't counter a single one of my points or Jun's, or SBP's. And I hate Sentry...... 😑 He's probably my single most hated character in comics right now.You just won't admit it ever. That Superman curbstomps your precious team. Because hate him if you want, but you need to respect the man of steel. Because he is simply better than most, stronger and greater. I may hate his wrtiing at times, but I respect the character for his ideals.
But that doesn't come into play in a forum battle. And in that arena, he is among the best for his level.
#2 Then, show me a scan where Superman takes out four-five high-tier durable foes in one second.
I haven't even really argued with you yet. You throw out baseless assumptions and when I ask for simple proof, (this is what, the third time?), you act like you're still winning. I just called you out and said Superman can't do that, referred specifically to scans, asked you to show some scans that would support your argument and you still haven't. How can yu even operate with such tunnel-vision? At least Juntai is trying to argue that I am looking at it incorrectly, whetehr or not I think he's a hypocrite.
Most of the people who have walked into this thread recognize that Superman loses except you. You even go so far as to say he wins in a second. If you want to try arguing with me, instead of proclaiming victory, try responding to #1 and #2 up there.
SBP, the problem with that scan, is that it shows an all out punch from Superman.
He can likely put Wonderman into the atmosphere with a punch like that one.
It just means that it gives the others time enough to jump him.
We've seen his flurry blitzes, against Mongul, the Asian Godlings, Subjekt 13, and others.
They are more like peppery jabs, which is DumbGo's point.
He can lay those on the group in the space of a minute or two, but thats still time enough for Ms.Marvel or Sersi to work some mojo.
All out punch?
He didn't really gain any momentum in there. He just uppercutted Lobo out of the planet.
Problem is Sersi & Mrs. Marvel will be among the first to be taken out in this fight since they pose greater threats than the bricks.
That scan was just posted to show how useless the bricks are in this fight.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
All out punch?He didn't really gain any momentum in there. He just uppercutted Lobo out of the planet.
Problem is Sersi & Mrs. Marvel will be among the first to be taken out in this fight since they pose greater threats than the bricks.
That scan was just posted to show how useless the bricks are in this fight.
Ohhh so superman gets knowledge of his opponents but they dont get knowledge of superman. HMMM. Well if they had knowledge besides superman. Sersi would come out to the field with a forcefield up, vision would be intagible and herc, marvel girl and wonderman and she hulk would be prepared for a speed blitz. One of them would stop him; wonderman has enough speed to do so and when that is done hulk jumps in the fight and take on superman while vision comes behind superman why he is fighting the hulk and reach his hands into superman head or just have sersi turning him to a roach.
OneDumbG0, you did good and you got great post. Theyre just true fans if they think that superman stands a chance against this team. Again good post and well understood.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
All out punch?He didn't really gain any momentum in there. He just uppercutted Lobo out of the planet.
Problem is Sersi & Mrs. Marvel will be among the first to be taken out in this fight since they pose greater threats than the bricks.
That scan was just posted to show how useless the bricks are in this fight.
The Bricks arent even the biggest wildcards here. They are just to keep him busy.
I would also like to see scans of Superman taking a high brick under one second. Either by strength or speed. Since when did he signed off to Dragonball?
To Juntai: "since he doesnt show in comics, doesnt mean he isent capable"? What is this crap? Jellyrobes debate tactics?
lol.
You people act like hes in Dragonball, blitzing people in figthing mode and punching them with cl 100 strength.
