Question for those who claim Hudlin is racist

Started by Juntai30 pages

Originally posted by willRules
In England it's a whole different story. What this guy in the link below did to oppose the slave trade is remarkable ✅

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wilberforce

Abraham Lincoln did a lot of the same towards anti-slavery if you read his wiki as well. However, as Predident, his job was to protect America and it's people's ideals. A person in his position or a similar one, is put in an awkward spot of balancing personal position on a subject, and the people he represents as a whole.

Originally posted by Juntai
Abraham Lincoln did a lot of the same towards anti-slavery if you read his wiki as well. However, as Predident, his job was to protect America and it's people's ideals. A person in his position or a similar one, is put in an awkward spot of balancing personal position on a subject, and the people he represents as a whole.

Yeah, I think with guys like this rarely get mentioned in these discussions and it's a shame because the amount they did for their respective countries is incredible.

What I find kind of ironic about Wilberforce is that he had a reputation for being small, weedy and wimp like figure who couldn't stand up for himself, yet he became responsible for leading the abolition of slavery in a country that was (and still is) one of the world's superpowers ✅

Originally posted by willRules
in a country that was (and still is) one of the world's superpowers

"The post-Cold War world is widely considered as a unipolar world, with the United States as the world's sole remaining superpower."

😛.

If there are any other super powers, it'd be Russia or China. Probably not the UK.

A racist? No, I don't think so...

Does he plays favorites....Yes! I can see that one..

Originally posted by Soljer
"The post-Cold War world is widely considered as a unipolar world, with the United States as the world's sole remaining superpower."

😛.

If there are any other super powers, it'd be Russia or China. Probably not the UK.

Given the division of the Soviet Union, Russia isn't the power it was anymore either, and certainly fell far down the economic ladder. However, they do still have the most big bombs next to the US.

I'd wager Japan as a larger power than China, despite the size difference. As the term "superpower" isn't directly relative to only the size of an army or country, but mostly with it's economic strangehold.

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Japan may be up there and the UK, China and Russia??? Please, there are a lot of issues China and Russia have that the UK is excelling in.

Let me guess, the quote is by an American? 😉

Anyway that's not my point. Regardless of how we view the political stage at the moment at the time England alone (yet alone the rest of the UK) was a superpower which makes what Wilberforce did very impressive. ✅

Originally posted by Juntai
Given the division of the Soviet Union, Russia isn't the power it was anymore either, and certainly fell far down the economic ladder. However, they do still have the most big bombs next to the US.

I'd wager Japan as a larger power than China, despite the size difference. As the term "superpower" isn't directly relative to only the size of an army or country, but mostly with it's economic strangehold.

You beat me to it 😛

IIRC Japan is the third-largest economy in the world (by PPP) after the US and China, and India is expected to supplant it (and may already have), and while Japan's economy has begun to grow again, it underwent a decade of stagnation and periodic recession. So, while still being a very very major economic force, I don't know if I'd consider it a superpower.

The UK? Pfft, you must be living on a different Earth. 😛

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Yeah, we were just comparing it to China and Russia though, but it's all relative anyway ✅

1 - US.
2 - Japan
3 - Germany
4- China
5 - UK
6 - France
7 - Italy
8 - Spain
9 - Canada
10 Brazil.

Based on their national gross domestic product.
To put the "Superpower" into perspective, the United States, at number one, is triple the GDP of number 2, Japan.

Russia is actually ranked down at 14, below Mexico.

Originally posted by Juntai
1 - US.
2 - Japan
3 - Germany
4- China
5 - UK
6 - France
7 - Italy
8 - Spain
9 - Canada
10 Brazil.

Based on their national gross domestic product.
To put the "Superpower" into perspective, the United States, at number one, is triple the GDP of number 2, Japan.

Add to that how many big bombs we have and the term Superpower really takes meaning 😛

Originally posted by Juntai
Russia is actually ranked down at 14, below Mexico.

Good point ✅

Plus take into account the size and population of each country. Without boring people with statistics (Plus I couldn't be bothered to look them up) America = Big country = Big population. Russia = Also big country= Not very big population. UK = reasonably small country = reasonably small population by comparison to America, Russia etc. China = Big country = very big population.

"Countrys. One of the few example of instances where size doesn't necessarily matter"

Originally posted by willRules

Let me guess, the quote is by an American? 😉

Not a clue. The quote is from Wikipedia. The current sole Superpower, according to it's sources, is the US. As X said, and wikipedia supports, India and China are somewhat on course to become the 21st century super powers.

Russia, while not a true super power, still exhibits some characteristics of one, "such as a vast nuclear arsenal, a large population, the largest territory in the world with an abundance of strategic resources, and the capability to develop advanced military and space technologies."

Originally posted by Soljer
Not a clue. The quote is from Wikipedia. The current sole Superpower, according to it's sources, is the US. As X said, and wikipedia supports, India and China are somewhat on course to become the 21st century super powers.

Russia, while not a true super power, still exhibits some characteristics of one, "such as a vast nuclear arsenal, a large population, the largest territory in the world with an abundance of strategic resources, and the capability to develop advanced military and space technologies."

Yeah I see your reasoning and I would make the same conclusion on that information but there are many countries above Russia (As Juntai has shown) that would be more likely to constitute as a superpower ✅ Good point though 🙂

But anyway my original point was that it's amazing what Wilberforce did in a country that at the time could be considered a superpower ✅

Originally posted by willRules
Yeah I see your reasoning and I would make the same conclusion on that information but there are many countries above Russia (As Juntai has shown) that would be more likely to constitute as a superpower ✅ Good point though 🙂

But anyway my original point was that it's amazing what Wilberforce did in a country that at the time could be considered a superpower ✅

Fair enough. I didn't mean to start a political debate, it was just a friendly 'ribbing' so to speak. Hence the emoticon, 😉.

Hey it's all cool 😄

Yeah I originally brought up the point about Wilberforce cos the city I come from made most of it's money of of the slave trade before it was abolished ✅

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The panel in question for reference.

Eventhough that qualifies as retarded writing, it's not necessarily as racist as Hudlin probably intended it to be. It IS statistically correct that the IQ level in Africa is lower than in the rest of the world. This is not passing judgement, but merely an observation. IBut this has everything to do with the situation in Africa and nothing with race or black people in general.

Now, if Doom is NOT a racist (and we all know he's not), then he probably intended to say something along those lines. And Reggie doesn't even realize it.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
Eventhough that qualifies as retarded writing, it's not necessarily as racist as Hudlin probably intended it to be. It IS statistically correct that the IQ level in Africa is lower than in the rest of the world. This is not passing judgement, but merely an observation. IBut this has everything to do with the situation in Africa and nothing with race or black people in general.

Now, if Doom is NOT a racist (and we all know he's not), then he probably intended to say something along those lines. And Reggie doesn't even realize it.

You have a good point. Is simply making an observation, or a generalization racist if it is, in fact, true, albeit offensive?

Meh. It doesn't matter - it's pretty apparent that Hudlin wanted to make it about racism, and not about doom's observations.

I've tried to say this over and over again.

Strong black character doesn't equal racist. Racial stereotypes equal racism. He portrays almost every white character as an ignorant racist. If a comic comes out where every black character is consistently militant and angry, that would be racist, and terrible writing. Just like Hudlin is both racist and a bad writer.

Sheesh.