Question for those who claim Hudlin is racist

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Who said I wasn't black? 313

Well are you? In any case maybe my experiences where different.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

Or racism toward whites 😬

There are ways to try and get that kind if message out. Destroying the characterization a popular character and basicly defaming an entire race is not the way to do that IMO.

Im not saying its ok you know.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

But yes I can see what he's trying to do and I can see why.

Right..so why are we having this conversation?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

Because the things tougher than Wakandians that he's met usually aren't human.

Yeah so? Still at any rate it implies that hes seen much more amazing things than tough humans. In any case Hudlin was just trying to make him behave the way some racists do.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Why would anyone immigrate to Wakanda to be a citizen there?

I dunno. Maybe it's the incredibly advanced technology that puts them well ahead of every other nation?

Originally posted by masterbruce
Also, Wakanda doesn't seem to welcome foreigners...so it prob doesn't even allow immigration.

Those racist xenophobic bastards! 13

Originally posted by Alfheim
Right..so why are we having this conversation?

I like the sound of my own voice.

Originally posted by Newjak
I personally think the whole BP race thing is totally stupid.

I have a hard time seeing where an all Black Super Advanced Isolated Country really cares about racism. That is where I think Hudlin has really messed up. I can understand Marvel wanting to make BP the their version of Batman.

But honestly when would a King of a Nation filled with isolationists really care about things like race. He never grew up in a race related world why because Wakanda closed its borders long ago.

I also really hate how every European nation in the world hates Wakanda because it is filled with Blacks instead of its vast resources. Seriously last time I checked every nation in the world wanted their resources and I'm pretty sure since they isolated themselves even from Africa that African Nations wanted them as well.

On the issue of every group facing racism, here's my comments:

Yes, white, asians, blacks, hispanics, ALL face racism.

But it's kinda different. One group is in power, the other group isn't.

Whites are in power. Blacks aren't. So white racism against blacks effects blacks more than black racism against whites in America.

Now, if we are in a country that is predominantly black with a white minority, then black racism against whites would have more impact than white racism against blacks.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I dunno. Maybe it's the incredibly advanced technology that puts them well ahead of every other nation?

Those racist xenophobic bastards! 13

They def strike me as xenophobic. I wouldn't be surprised if they were racist.

Originally posted by masterbruce
On the issue of every group facing racism, here's my comments:

Yes, white, asians, blacks, hispanics, ALL face racism.

But it's kinda different. One group is in power, the other group isn't.

Whites are in power. Blacks aren't. So white racism against blacks effects blacks more than black racism against whites in America.

Now, if we are in a country that is predominantly black with a white minority, then black racism against whites would have more impact than white racism against blacks.

Are you replying to one of my posts?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I like the sound of my own voice.

🙄

Originally posted by masterbruce
On the issue of every group facing racism, here's my comments:

Yes, white, asians, blacks, hispanics, ALL face racism.

But it's kinda different. One group is in power, the other group isn't.

Whites are in power. Blacks aren't. So white racism against blacks effects blacks more than black racism against whites in America.

Now, if we are in a country that is predominantly black with a white minority, then black racism against whites would have more impact than white racism against blacks.

Shouldn't it be Whites are in powers
Everyone else isn't.

And racism is bad in all forms.

Originally posted by Alfheim

Yeah so? Still at any rate it implies that hes seen much more amazing things than tough humans. In any case Hudlin was just trying to make him behave the way some racists do.

I really doubt by having Doom compliment Wakandians was to show him being racist. there are better ways to do that if it were the case.

Originally posted by Newjak
You know last time I checked any minority wasn't power. So how can you say that Blacks aren't in powers and whites are.

Shouldn't it be Whites are in powers
Everyone else isn't.

And racism is bad in all forms.

yeah I never said any minority was in power...but we're talking specifically about black white racism in this thread.

In America, whites have power and blacks don't, so racism hurts blacks more than it does whites.

In a African country, racism would hurt whites more than blacks.

Of course ALL RACISM IS WRONG, but it's effects is not equal. If you have 10 white racists and 1 black racist in a room, gee, the black racist will feel a hell of a lot more uncomfortable than the white guys.

Originally posted by masterbruce
I really doubt by having Doom compliment Wakandians was to show him being racist. there are better ways to do that if it were the case.

Originally posted by Alfheim
You know why its impossible for him to be racist. Look at what Doom said, Doom said something along the lines of "Wakandians are suprisingly durable." This is what I mean about racism towards black people, racists feel threatened by black people because they think they are physically superior.

Masterbruce you can obvoulsy see that Hudlin was putting his experiences of racism into a comic. Ive experienced the samething and I recognized it straight away.

Originally posted by masterbruce

Of course ALL RACISM IS WRONG, but it's effects is not equal. If you have 10 white racists and 1 black racist in a room, gee, the black racist will feel a hell of a lot more uncomfortable than the white guys.

Thats a very odd analogy.

What if you had 10 Black racists in a room with 1 White racist?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Thats a very odd analogy.

What if you had 10 Black racists in a room with 1 White racist?

than the white racist would be MUCH WORSE off than the blacks.

I used 10 whites and 1 black to represent America where whites are dominant and blacks aren't.

I EVEN said in Africa, racism would hurt whites more than blacks because blacks would be majority there.

Originally posted by masterbruce
yeah I never said any minority was in power...but we're talking specifically about black white racism in this thread.

In America, whites have power and blacks don't, so racism hurts blacks more than it does whites.

In a African country, racism would hurt whites more than blacks.

Of course ALL RACISM IS WRONG, but it's effects is not equal. If you have 10 white racists and 1 black racist in a room, gee, the black racist will feel a hell of a lot more uncomfortable than the white guys.

In America anyone that Votes has power and last time I checked a majority of White people aren't Racist otherwise Slavery never would have ended.

Plus if you really want to talk about racism in Americas History. You've got to understand that throughout thsi country's history it wasn't that all White people had power.

It was still a select few mostly Rich,White Males from countries such as England and France, Netherlands, and that region.

So in fact a small minority did actually control the majority for quite awhile in this country.

Originally posted by Newjak
Why are we specifically talking about white/black racism because that helps make it seem like you are right.

In America anyone that Votes has power and last time I checked a majority of White people aren't Racist otherwise Slavery never would have ended.

Plus if you really want to talk about racism in Americas History. You've got to understand that throughout thsi country's history it wasn't that all White people had power.

It was still a select few mostly Rich,White Males from countries such as England and France, Netherlands, and that region.

So in fact a small minority did actually control the majority for quite awhile in this country.

1. We are talking about white/black racism because we're talking about Doom/Black Panther.

2. Anyone that votes have some form of power, absolutely correct. Whites are majority, so they naturally have MORE power.

3. No one ever said a majority of white people were racist.

4. Slavery ended after OUR COUNTRY FOUGHT A WAR OVER IT. Had the south won, we might have a very different country today.

5. No one ever said all white people had power. In America, it's anglo WASPs who used to have most of power, now with a shift towards Jewish people.

6. While a small group of White people ruled, they still REPRESENT white people. Did these 'Rich,White Males from countries such as England and France, Netherlands, and that region" enslave other whites from other regions...NO. They only enslaved blacks.

I realise reading through this and the other threads I've seen here and other forums, that most people are completely ignorant to both racism and slavery and what actually transpired in back then. But at base value, it was a very wrong thing for sure.

Originally posted by Juntai
I realise reading through this and the other threads I've seen here and other forums, that most people are completely ignorant to both racism and slavery and what actually transpired in back then. But at base value, it was a very wrong thing for sure.

I think most people think:

Oh slavery already ended...now blacks and whites have equal footing.

That is certainly not true and would be a wrong and simplistic view.

Originally posted by masterbruce
1. We are talking about white/black racism because we're talking about Doom/Black Panther.

2. Anyone that votes have some form of power, absolutely correct. Whites are majority, so they naturally have MORE power.

3. No one ever said a majority of white people were racist.

4. Slavery ended after OUR COUNTRY FOUGHT A WAR OVER IT. Had the south won, we might have a very different country today.

5. No one ever said all white people had power. In America, it's anglo WASPs who used to have most of power, now with a shift towards Jewish people.

6. While a small group of White people ruled, they still REPRESENT white people. Did these 'Rich,White Males from countries such as England and France, Netherlands, and that region" enslave other whites from other regions...NO. They only enslaved blacks.

Originally posted by masterbruce
1. We are talking about white/black racism because we're talking about Doom/Black Panther.

2. Anyone that votes have some form of power, absolutely correct. Whites are majority, so they naturally have MORE power.

3. No one ever said a majority of white people were racist.

4. Slavery ended after OUR COUNTRY FOUGHT A WAR OVER IT. Had the south won, we might have a very different country today.

5. No one ever said all white people had power. In America, it's anglo WASPs who used to have most of power, now with a shift towards Jewish people.

6. While a small group of White people ruled, they still REPRESENT white people. Did these 'Rich,White Males from countries such as England and France, Netherlands, and that region" enslave other whites from other regions...NO. They only enslaved blacks.

2) You are right on this though.

3) You implied quite a lot. Especially with your Ten White Racist vs 1 Black Racists comment.

4) If you think that Slavery was the big issue of the Civil War then you haven't read up on it. It was one of many reasons for the Civil War and probably one of the least talked about ones.

5) You are right

6) If you think that small group represented all white people you are truely blind. That rich group of Americans only represented a small group. And the only reason why they didn't enslave a number of other people was becuase by then Slavery had already been established before the Constitution.

But never ever think that group of Americans in power represented anything more than themselves. Many different nationailities and races were banished to the low rungs of society because of them.

Originally posted by masterbruce
I think most people think:

Oh slavery already ended...now blacks and whites have equal footing.

That is certainly not true and would be a wrong and simplistic view.

But that's not what I was speaking about at all however. I was speaking as a whole. The entire idea of slavery and all the facts about it. Most schools actually barely touch on the subject besides the fact that it happened, and then the civil rights movement and some of it's important figures.