Question for those who claim Hudlin is racist

Started by Soljer30 pages
Originally posted by His Airness
True ignorance spoken. It's baffling to me you believe age is what determines the struggles and obstacles you've faced in your life and if you're young you must keep your mouth closed on a subject you find ridicules.

Yeah, everyone thinks that wisdom is totally unrelated to age. And then they grow the **** up.

Originally posted by His Airness

Also, I do not live in a dump. I live in a very comfortable home where one parent is a physician and the other works in management at a local hospital. We are upper-income.

Real hard life. Lemme shed a tear for you.

Originally posted by His Airness

However I do know the hard ships and struggles African Americans face as I go to a very poor school, in a more poor area in South Kansas City. I've seen a lot of things that a child has no business seeing, I've heard a lot of things no child needs to hear, and I've been treated in ways that no child deserves to be treated.

So has EVERYONE ELSE. Life sucks. Then you die.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Should this give him a right to accuse Doctor f*cking Doom of being a racist?

Doctor Doom is a fictional character, so a writer does have the artistic freedom to intepret the character as he sees fit.

Then, it's up to the editors to decide whether to publish it or not.

I'm going to make an attempt to respond to everyone's post without being offensive.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Doctor Doom is a fictional character, so a writer does have the artistic freedom to intepret the character as he sees fit.

Then, it's up to the editors to decide whether to publish it or not.

😆

So, you don't believe that it's possible to poorly write a character?

Originally posted by His Airness
I'm going to make an attempt to respond to everyone's post without being offensive.

🙁 But that takes the fun out of it.

😛

Originally posted by Soljer
Yeah, everyone thinks that wisdom is totally unrelated to age. And then they grow the **** up.

Real hard life. Lemme shed a tear for you.

So has EVERYONE ELSE. Life sucks. Then you die.

Right, old man. 🙂

Hasn't always been like this, up until a year ago my mother whom was the head of our single parent home, was broke. lets just say my family was blessed.

I bet.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
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So, you don't believe that it's possible to poorly write a character?

Of course I do, my post implied it in fact. Many characters have had writers who have have portrayed them poorly...that's what happens when you have different writers having different portrayals of characters.

But you asked me if a writer has the right to do so...and I stated that I believe writers DO HAVE the right to portray a character as they see them...and then its up to editors to decide whether the writer's creation is too far off the mark to publish.

Originally posted by His Airness
Right, old man. 🙂

Hasn't always been like this, up until a year ago my mother whom was the head of our single parent home, was broke. lets just say my family was blessed.

I bet.

I'm not claiming that I'm some 80 year old sage. I'm still in college, most of the forum knows this. It's not like I hide it.

But, at the same time, I don't act like the sum total of my life experiences means dick. It doesn't. And, trust me, I'm sure your life hasn't got shit on what mine and many people's have.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Of course I do, my post implied it in fact. Many characters have had writers who have have portrayed them poorly...that's what happens when you have different writers having different portrayals of characters.

But you asked me if a writer has the right to do so...and I stated that I believe writers DO HAVE the right to portray a character as they see them...and then its up to editors to decide whether the writer's creation is too far off the mark to publish.

Then let me rephrase the question...

Do you believe that Doom was correctly written?

Originally posted by Soljer
I'm not claiming that I'm some 80 year old sage. I'm still in college, most of the forum knows this. It's not like I hide it.

But, at the same time, I don't act like the sum total of my life experiences means dick. It doesn't. And, trust me, I'm sure your life hasn't got shit on what mine and many people's have.

My mistake.... old man.

And what was so bad about your life?

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Then let me rephrase the question...

Do you believe that Doom was correctly written?

Doom believes he's better than all people. It isn't hard to believe that he may in fact be racist.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Then let me rephrase the question...

Do you believe that Doom was correctly written?

first, let me say that I never read Hudlin's take on Doom

Now, let me answer your question.

What exactly is Doom written correctly? As he was portrayed in the past?

Comic characters grow and mature with time. Writers reveal more sides of characters all the time...it keeps them interesting when we learn more facets of a character, be it negative or positive.

Doom is a villain, so being racist is not completely unbelievable...whereas if Superman was written to be racist, then that would be pretty out of character as Superman's entire character is about being helpful to all humankind and promoting justice and equality.

Doom, on the other hand, is already a fascist who kills innocents to acheive his goals...is him being a racist so shocking?

Originally posted by His Airness
Doom believes he's better than all people. It isn't hard to believe that he may in fact be racist.

Megalomania =/= Racism

Doom think he is better than everyone.

Originally posted by masterbruce
first, let me say that I never read Hudlin's take on Doom

Now, let me answer your question.

What exactly is Doom written correctly? As he was portrayed in the past?

Comic characters grow and mature with time. Writers reveal more sides of characters all the time...it keeps them interesting when we learn more facets of a character, be it negative or positive.

Doom is a villain, so being racist is not completely unbelievable...whereas if Superman was written to be racist, then that would be pretty out of character as Superman's entire character is about being helpful to all humankind and promoting justice and equality.

Doom, on the other hand, is already a fascist who kills innocents to acheive his goals...is him being a racist so shocking?

Doom believes himself to be the superior to ALL human life... he holds no prejudice towards insects. Hell, have you read ANY Doom whatsoever?

Just because someones a villain doesn't mean being a racist is acceptable.

Would you be surprised if Lex Luthor was accused of being a racist?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Megalomania =/= Racism

Doom think he is better than everyone.

megalomania does not = racism, but nor does it mean one who is megalomania cannot be racist

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Doom believes himself to be the superior to ALL human life... he holds no prejudice towards insects. Hell, have you read ANY Doom whatsoever?

Just because someones a villain doesn't mean being a racist is acceptable.

Would you be surprised if Lex Luthor was accused of being a racist?

Is being a racist so inconsistent with Doom's character? What leads you to believe he can't possibly be a racist?

Originally posted by masterbruce
megalomania does not = racism, but nor does it mean one who is megalomania cannot be racist

It seemed to me that Airness was using it as evidence that he might be racist.

Its rough the same as me saying. "You're wearing orange. You must be Catholic."

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph

Would you be surprised if Lex Luthor was accused of being a racist?

No, I wouldn't. Lex Luthor is a evil guy, why should it surprise me if there is another aspect of evil to him?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It seemed to me that Airness was using it as evidence that he might be racist.

Its rough the same as me saying. "You're wearing orange. You must be Catholic."

to me it's like this "you kill innocent people and commit evil heinous deeds, therefore it isn't completely out of character for you to have other character flaws (ie racist, sexist, etc)"

now I agree with you that being evil in one regard does not make one NECESSARILY evil in all regards.

Originally posted by masterbruce
to me it's like this "you kill innocent people and commit evil heinous deeds, therefore it isn't completely out of character for you to have other character flaws (ie racist, sexist, etc)"

Doom has reason for being who he is. They don't involve race.

This is a genocidal psycho who cried when the TwinTowers fell. He's much deeper than being a superficially evil person.