oh, and your example of something v nothing.
Nothing is an abstraction, a symbol for something we need to describe. Generally, the absence of the "something" being spoken of. Without the abstract symbol for the absense of something, the term "something" has no meaning.
Most language is relative and relational.
Originally posted by Alfheim
well to some peopleI dont know about that. If I asked you what an athiest believed in you would say? Dont be suprised if you start the sentence with Athiests BELIEVE.....
yes, atheists can have beliefs. For instance, I believe in black holes with very little supporting evidence
however, that belief would be better described as scientific theory, and not as atheism, since not all atheists adopt that world view
Originally posted by inimalist
oh, and your example of something v nothing.Nothing is an abstraction, a symbol for something we need to describe. Generally, the absence of the "something" being spoken of. Without the abstract symbol for the absense of something, the term "something" has no meaning.
Most language is relative and relational.
Well at any rate I dont thinks scientists have discovered a complete lack of...ermm...something? There is always something there. Air, gravity, electromagnetic energy etc etc. I guess the point I was trying to say is that the absence of something is ermmm....something else....forget it.
As for atheism its a belief.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=atheism
the doctrine or BELIEF that there is no God.
Originally posted by AlfheimI never said that atheism wasn’t a belief, that simply means something that you hold to be true.
Well at any rate I dont thinks scientists have discovered a complete lack of...ermm...something? There is always something there. Air, gravity, electromagnetic energy etc etc. I guess the point I was trying to say is that the absence of something is ermmm....something else....forget it.As for atheism its a belief.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=atheism
the doctrine or BELIEF that there is no God.
Originally posted by debbiejo
What's you definition of New Age just out of curiosity.
Hmm good point actually. *thinks* ...damn this is hrader than I thought. I was under the impression the movement started in the 50s but became popular in the 90s.
New age is taking old philosphies such as Shaminism, Buddhism and combining them togther under the name New Age. New Age philosphy tends to be very fluffy.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well at any rate I dont thinks scientists have discovered a complete lack of...ermm...something? There is always something there. Air, gravity, electromagnetic energy etc etc. I guess the point I was trying to say is that the absence of something is ermmm....something else....forget it.
yes, and all of that "something" would not be important if we didn't have a concept for nothing.
Think of it this way, good is only relative to your previous experience with bad. You cannot have the concept of one without the other. If you suddenly say that there are bad things that are good, then both terms are useless because they are a direct reference to previous experience with their opposite
Originally posted by Alfheim
As for atheism its a belief.http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=atheism
the doctrine or BELIEF that there is no God.
I respectfully disagree with that dictionary's interpretation. Atheism is the REJECTION of the concept of God.
Its only the thousands of years old world view of "God" as a credible concept for the universe that makes us define its rejection as a belief in itself, almost as if to comfort the theists in saying "They have the same faith that I do, of course I can't be wrong". It is a definition spawned of cognitive dissonance.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well at any rate I dont thinks scientists have discovered a complete lack of...ermm...something? There is always something there. Air, gravity, electromagnetic energy etc etc. I guess the point I was trying to say is that the absence of something is ermmm....something else....forget it.As for atheism its a belief.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=atheism
the doctrine or BELIEF that there is no God.
Please tell me you haven't resorted to common dictionaries to support your argument. 😬
Give me a definition form a scholarly Dictionary of Religion and THEN we can discuss this crap.
And athism is NOT about science. Quit associating the two.
Okay, if you all want to define atheism or atheist, lets start with breaking it up shall we?
A: Without
The: Belief of God
God: Creator and ruler of the universe
Ist: Person
Atheist : without belief of creator and ruler of the universe person or in other words: Someone who doesn't believe in a creator/ruler of the universe.
Does that sound religious to you?