Originally posted by lord xyz
Makes sense. Marx being an atheist is kinda dumb since he thought up a government where one person rules everyone else respectively.You came to that conclusion by what everyone around you believed and wanted you to believe. YOU are wrong, stupid and brianwashed.
I haven't always believed that the Bible was God's Word, so you are wrong again.
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Originally posted by JesusIsAliveI never said you always believed. I said you believed because of everyone else around believed. You told me this in PMs.
I haven't always believed that the Bible was God's Word, so you are wrong again.😄
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonI asked him in PMs, and he told me. 😉
Do you really expect him to tell you the truth? His job is to convert people at all costs, not tell you anything about himself.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Makes sense. Marx being an atheist is kinda dumb since he thought up a government where one person rules everyone else respectively.You came to that conclusion by what everyone around you believed and wanted you to believe. YOU are wrong, stupid and brianwashed.
No, that is way off.
Marx idea of government was AGAINST single person ruling. The whole idea behind communism is that there are no ''rulling classes'' or ''elite''. People rule themselves.
Thats why Russia, China, Cuba...etc. are and were NOT communist, but dictatiorship governments.
Voltaire was right about God though - If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him.
atheism isnt a belief system. nough said. its simply the characteristic of ALL INDIVIDUALS who DONT believe in god. other than that they DO have their own belief systems quite independant from atheism WHICH are responsible for their acts. atheism isnt a causitive factor, its the OTHER BELIEFS which come in place of THEISM that are the causitive factors of all the good and bad that the atheist does. theism on the other hand is the direct causitive factor for many many things which are mostly negetivr so theyr not on even ground.
Originally posted by lord xyz
I never said you always believed. I said you believed because of everyone else around believed. You told me this in PMs.I asked him in PMs, and he told me. 😉
You are putting words in my mouth. I never said anything remotely close to, "I believed because of everyone else around believed." I went back and checked the pms I never said those words that you allege that I said. You kept asking me with why I believe and I told you just I like I have told everyone else: read my posts in the thread entitled, "Can You Handle The Truth?" starting on page 2. That is the truth.
Originally posted by ThePittman
That is what I’ve basically been saying all along is that the origin of the word is what it truly means, you can add more definitions to it but it still means the same as it did in the beginning. The hard part is with a concept or idea such as atheism, it means different things to different people even with religion each has their own view but the basis of the religion is still the same as with the concept of being atheist.
Yeah ok your right I looked it up again. In that acse though Satanism would come under atheism because they dont belive in God or Gods.
Originally posted by Alliance
No. its not a matter of opinion and you have sh*t to back it up.
Dont think I really want to comment on Communism right now.
Originally posted by Alliance
Monothiesm describes a type of religion. Islam is one. Athiesm describes a belief, that communism is not an example of.
If Communism isnt im sure Communism would be an exammple of atehism.
Originally posted by Alliance
umm...all i can say is bullshit? The Cold War is over. Chill out and try learning.
Well i dont know enough about Communism to comment.
Originally posted by Alliance
Thats not true at all. If you actually learned about my views instead of simply bashing me, you'd actually be able to see that.
I do.And your mindless and unjustified oversimplification is a blatant logical fallacy.
Well this is the thing you say Buddhist reject violence. Buddhist martial arts. Even our resident Buddhist said that was a stupid statement. How was that not Bullshit.
If you dont think religon or Communism doesnt cause people to kill im cool with that. I'll comment on this later right now cant be bothered.
Originally posted by inimalist
Marx after the age of 23 denied being an atheist.Opium of the people was coined by theorists before Marx who were much more radically atheist than he, and Marx's use of the term relates to how religion as an organization manipulates people and forces them to suffer for mythology. He was very much against the power of the church, and not the idea of some deity existing. For this reason Marx is better know as an anti-authoritarian rather than as an atheist (which is strange considering how authoritarian communism is in practice)
That maybe the case but I think at that moment I dont think its an exaggeration to think Marx meant that we were better off without religon and atheism should prevail.
Was he 2" when he wrote religon is the opium of the masses.
Martial arts are supposed to be for self defense only. Thats the first thing they teach you, before anything else.
And to be honest, Satanism these days are just bunch of kids trying to spite Christians, or something lame like that, where all their dogma relies on Christian dogma - but opposite. You like God, I like Devil. Oooooo.
Im sure there are real satanists, independent of Christian type dogma. If anyone has any real info on them, when they started, what they believe...etc, please post.
Originally posted by AlfheimActually to believe in Satan you would have to believe in God as well, doesn't mean you worship him but you would have to believe in God if you believed in Satan.
Yeah ok your right I looked it up again. In that acse though Satanism would come under atheism because they dont belive in God or Gods.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Martial arts are supposed to be for self defense only. Thats the first thing they teach you, before anything else.
Well yeah still involves violence. Violence should only be inself defense.
Originally posted by ThePittman
Actually to believe in Satan you would have to believe in God as well, doesn't mean you worship him but you would have to believe in God if you believed in Satan.
Nah man they dont. I know its called Satanism but they dont belive he exists he is just a fictional role-model.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well yeah still involves violence. Violence should only be inself defense.Nah man they dont. I know its called Satanism but they dont belive he exists he is just a fictional role-model.
Well, but what horrible deeds are Satanists all over the world responsible for? Does that even cover 9/11?
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, but what horrible deeds are Satanists all over the world responsible for? Does that even cover 9/11?
Nah man Satanists havent done **** really. You might have the odd nutcase here and there. My point was Communism isnt an example of atheism (still to read up on Communism before I decide for myself) but im just simply trying to find an example of what could be considered to be a correct example of atheism.
I didnt give an example of Satanism in the sense that they have commited atrocities im just trying to find a correct example.
Originally posted by AlfheimDepends on your definition of violence, with Aikido it is purely self defense.
Well yeah still involves violence. Violence should only be inself defense.
Originally posted by AlfheimWell I would have to admit that I don't know much about Satanism but how could you believe in Satan without God because God created Satan? The whole story and origin of Satan was around God so how could he be without him?
Nah man they dont. I know its called Satanism but they dont belive he exists he is just a fictional role-model.