Originally posted by Starhawk
No meaning it is and has just become so in the last 5 years, such as many other conditions before it..And I reported him for bashing since he can't seem to debate like a grown up without childish insults.
From what ive read of the condition, the view tends to be psychosomatic but i'll take your word for it as no doubt you will http me to death, also why is it that when you fail you go straight for the 'you are childish and cant debate route'????
Originally posted by Starhawk
No meaning it is and has just become so in the last 5 years, such as many other conditions before it..And I reported him for bashing since he can't seem to debate like a grown up without childish insults.
Yeah, he got a point, I do indeed behave childishly, I continue to report people though the mods do never react to my pointless accuasations, I ignore a thread because I won't admit that I made up statistics, and I am a sock....
Oh no wait, that is you...I mix us two up all the time.
Either way, you use some argument that there is a sort of "duty" for the better people to support the unable beyond reason...even so far that they lead better lives for free than the poorer working people (that actually contribute to society)...your logic is screwed...you are brainwashed or egoistical...what is it?
I dont know about canada, but in America, Most poor people are people without drive or ambition. I dont think there are poor people in amrica. If you have a pair of new Nike's a roof over your head and a car. you are NOT poor. Atleast in canada they have free healthcare, maybe not the best healthcare, but free none the less, so that has to help poor people immensely.
Originally posted by smoker4
From what ive read of the condition, the view tends to be psychosomatic but i'll take your word for it as no doubt you will http me to death.
http://www.arthritis.ca/types%20of%20arthritis/fibromyalgia/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibromyalgia
http://www.fmnetnews.com/
http://www.mefm.bc.ca/bcfm/
http://www.hwcn.org/~aq226/
http://www.sjhc.london.on.ca/sjh/programs/fms/fms.htm
A government directory
http://chp-pcs.gc.ca/CHP/index_e.jsp/pageid/4005/odp/Top/Health/Conditions_and_Diseases/Bones,_Joints_and_Muscles/Fibromyalgia
Originally posted by Starhawk
http://www.arthritis.ca/types%20of%20arthritis/fibromyalgia/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibromyalgia
http://www.fmnetnews.com/
http://www.mefm.bc.ca/bcfm/
http://www.hwcn.org/~aq226/
http://www.sjhc.london.on.ca/sjh/programs/fms/fms.htmA government directory
http://chp-pcs.gc.ca/CHP/index_e.jsp/pageid/4005/odp/Top/Health/Conditions_and_Diseases/Bones,_Joints_and_Muscles/Fibromyalgia
I said i'd take your word for it, those lawyer skills need sharpening, hmm mentions a few times that it could be phycological, hey ive got whiplash, prove i dont either way? sound familiar?
Originally posted by smoker4
I said i'd take your word for it, those lawyer skills need sharpening, hmm mentions a few times that it could be phycological, hey ive got whiplash, prove i dont either way? sound familiar?
"Psychological" Learn to spell. And that was an old ignorant view on the condition, it is now recognized by the Canadian medical association and the federal government and a valid physical condition.
They are luxury items these people deserve to have, if they are going to restricted to their homes, we should at least make sure they can be comfortable.
As I said Compassion>>>>>Greed.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Well in Canada, most of them are people who have lost their jobs due to corporate downsizing and outsourcing. The others are the elderly and disabled. As I said while you turn towards greed I try to have compassion.
Who is turning towards greed? I cant claim to know the situation in Canada, but I would be willing to say confidently that America sufers from downsizing and outsourcing as much as canada. I'm obviously not generalizing all poor people. When it comes to the financial stadards i'm considered poor. One of the most disheartening things to see is someone who has worked with a company for 15+ years that is laid off with no benefits or pention. That is disgracefull that they ore offered little to no govenment assistance.
Or when a single parent is working two jobs supporting their child or children, and is forced into debt with credit cards or other means of credit, because they had to turn to an outlet out of their own income. These people are offered no government assistancebecause they make to much money from their jobs, but in actuality fall deeper into debt with each passing week. These are not the people i was refering to. These are people that dont like to rely on others, these are the people that have pride and diginity, but are rewarded with nothing for their efforts of self preservation.
I was refering to the mass millions on welfare that are perfectly content with having the governemnt support them and bihtc about how the government doesnt do dick for them.
Originally posted by Starhawk
"Psychological" Learn to spell. And that was an old ignorant view on the condition, it is now recognized by the Canadian medical association and the federal government and a valid physical condition.They are luxury items these people deserve to have, if they are going to restricted to their homes, we should at least make sure they can be comfortable.
As I said Compassion>>>>>Greed.
You're not one to criticise, the amount of grammatical errors I've seen you make is close to innumerable.
Originally posted by StarhawkO, the irony.
"Psychological" Learn to spell.
Originally posted by StarhawkLuxury items they deserve to have? No one deserves to have luxury items gifted to them. By their nature as luxury items they're inessential. If a person desires luxury items they need to work to earn them.
They are luxury items these people deserve to have, if they are going to restricted to their homes, we should at least make sure they can be comfortable.As I said Compassion>>>>>Greed.
As I said, You<<<<<Legally retarded.
Originally posted by Starhawk
As I said Compassion>>>>>Greed.
You pointing out the spelling mistakes of another poster. Must be Irony Day.
And no, Greed > Compassion ... that's a fact.
And you have no compassion for the people that actually work and can't pay for TVs. You have no compassion for the people that produce great things that make your life so much more comfortable. It is unbelievable, you are the most selfish, unfair person....and you convinced yourself you are on moral high ground.
And you owe us scans. Liar.
Originally posted by debbiejo
People can always go back to school get a degree and move where there are more jobs. It really is an option.
Thats assuming they have nothing in their lives preventing that from happening or have the money to do it, and you leave out the disabled who cannot in many cases.
[qoute]Who is turning towards greed? I cant claim to know the situation in Canada, but I would be willing to say confidently that America suffers from downsizing and outsourcing as much as canada. I'm obviously not generalizing all poor people. When it comes to the financial standards i'm considered poor. One of the most disheartening things to see is someone who has worked with a company for 15+ years that is laid off with no benefits or pension. That is disgraceful that they ore offered little to no govenment assistance.
Or when a single parent is working two jobs supporting their child or children, and is forced into debt with credit cards or other means of credit, because they had to turn to an outlet out of their own income. These people are offered no government assistancebecause they make to much money from their jobs, but in actuality fall deeper into debt with each passing week. These are not the people i was refering to. These are people that dont like to rely on others, these are the people that have pride and diginity, but are rewarded with nothing for their efforts of self preservation.
I was refering to the mass millions on welfare that are perfectly content with having the governemnt support them and ***** about how the government doesnt do dick for them.[/quote]
I do admit that in the case of able bodied people that there is some that are lazy and choose to live on welfare. But they are not the majority and unlike disabled people, they have a choice in the matter.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Thats assuming they have nothing in their lives preventing that from happening or have the money to do it, and you leave out the disabled who cannot in many cases.[qoute]Who is turning towards greed? I cant claim to know the situation in Canada, but I would be willing to say confidently that America suffers from downsizing and outsourcing as much as canada. I'm obviously not generalizing all poor people. When it comes to the financial standards i'm considered poor. One of the most disheartening things to see is someone who has worked with a company for 15+ years that is laid off with no benefits or pension. That is disgraceful that they ore offered little to no govenment assistance.
Or when a single parent is working two jobs supporting their child or children, and is forced into debt with credit cards or other means of credit, because they had to turn to an outlet out of their own income. These people are offered no government assistancebecause they make to much money from their jobs, but in actuality fall deeper into debt with each passing week. These are not the people i was refering to. These are people that dont like to rely on others, these are the people that have pride and diginity, but are rewarded with nothing for their efforts of self preservation.
I was refering to the mass millions on welfare that are perfectly content with having the governemnt support them and ***** about how the government doesnt do dick for them.
I do admit that in the case of able bodied people that there is some that are lazy and choose to live on welfare. But they are not the majority and unlike disabled people, they have a choice in the matter. [/QUOTE]
Originally posted by Starhawk[/B][/QUOTE]
I do admit that in the case of able bodied people that there is some that are lazy and choose to live on welfare. But they are not the majority and unlike disabled people, they have a choice in the matter.
Again, i cant accurately speak on canada's situation. In America the disabled are supported better than the people on welfare. Certian stages of depression can get you on disability. A friend of mine whom is paralyzed from teh waste down gets the hook up with disability. He often says its not fair how much he gets for disability and all the free healthcare he receives. Not being able to quote a number of abled bodies on welfare, im going to say from expereince and observation that the number is much higher than most people think. Welfare and credit card companies is one of the main attributes of the weakened economy in America, outside of foriegn spending and trade.