:Utopia:

Could a perfect and grand world ever exist? One containing no violence, man-slaughter, indecency, or otherwise imperfections. How could a golden and beautiful Utopian society ever exist? What measures would have to be reached? Would the outcome be attained through Supernatural means?

This is not a thread to spout endless Chrisitian theories on Heaven being this sight worthy, flawless world...

In my opinion no, it couldn't exist. Mainly due to the fact that for everyone to agree, opinions would have to be suppressed or ridden of, which to me wouldn't be a perfect world.

The problem is one mans (or womans) idea of utopia is different than another, so who´s utopia do we take?

Well, that wouldn't be perfect for someone that wants to induce violence, right?

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Could a perfect and grand world ever exist? One containing no violence, man-slaughter, indecency, or otherwise imperfections. How could a golden and beautiful Utopian society ever exist? What measures would have to be reached? Would the outcome be attained through Supernatural means?

This is not a thread to spout endless Chrisitian theories on Heaven being this sight worthy, flawless world...

Did you ever read the book Utopia? The whole thing is a joke about how the concept is impossible. He mentions two perfect places one has a name that means "Much Nonsense" the other is Utopia which mean "Not A Place".

I tend to agree with the idea that there is no such place as an eutopia.

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Could a perfect and grand world ever exist? One containing no violence, man-slaughter, indecency, or otherwise imperfections. How could a golden and beautiful Utopian society ever exist? What measures would have to be reached? Would the outcome be attained through Supernatural means?

This is not a thread to spout endless Chrisitian theories on Heaven being this sight worthy, flawless world...

Nah. As long as there are nations, there will be war. And I am guessing there will always be nations.
The very first war was waged with the creation of the nation/state.

Now that I think about it... everyone would have different opinions on what Utopia is and should be? -ponders- What about a crimeless world? Happiness, bliss, sunshine? A warless existence. That's my idea for Utopia... What're yours?

And for the person that wants to induce violence well, all I can suggest is sucking a lemon...

My idea of Utopia would be a world where personal freedom was infinite, as long as you do no harm onto others it's OK.

would have been nice to have a decent poll rather than those otf style gibberish options.

anyway i believe utopia is possible for the future of mankind, but we are just not evolved and mature enough as a species to make that happen any time soon.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
My idea of Utopia would be a world where personal freedom was infinite, as long as you do no harm onto others it's OK.

If you can't rape, steal, kill, assault, or extort it's still basically America... well you can be gay with out any real conscionable standard...

Originally posted by Schecter
would have been nice to have a decent poll rather than those otf style gibberish options.

anyway i believe utopia is possible for the future of mankind, but we are just not evolved and mature enough as a species to make that happen any time soon.

I got kinda "pheh" with the options when I got to the third one, sue me...

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
If you can't rape, steal, kill, assault, or extort it's still basically America... well you can be gay with out any real conscionable standard...

There's a lot you can't do to yourself in America.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
There's a lot you can't do to yourself in America.

As long as it's behind closed doors and away from the public eye people start to not care. Which is another thing my Utopia would entail. Every has a deep feeling of care and compassion for every one person and doesn't bilk a person for their contradistinctions...

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
As long as it's behind closed doors and away from the public eye people start to not care. Which is another thing my Utopia would entail. Every has a deep feeling of care and compassion for every one person and doesn't bilk a person for their contradistinctions...

Well they do, I would think that the local golf club wouldn't think much of somebody who takes heroin. I mean that legally personal freedom would be infinite, not if you do so in a certain way people won't mind.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Well they do, I would think that the local golf club wouldn't think much of somebody who takes heroin. I mean that legally personal freedom would be infinite, not if you do so in a certain way people won't mind.

I see. My world would do away with drugs, which in itself would decrease crime by a great deal. And in a perfect world, wouldn't the freedom to legally take drugs get out of hand? Among other things, it would result in a great deal of pain and turmoil...

That's where ideas of Utopia differ. I believe that giving ultimate responsibility to people in their own lives is the way, you don't.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
That's where ideas of Utopia differ. I believe that giving ultimate responsibility to people in their own lives is the way, you don't.

We've given people the responsibility to vote, one of the most important acts of patriotic duty, yet they sit home on election day making up excuses about why it was too inconvenient for them to make the date. IN other countries people get bound and gagged for not supoprting their countries. Americans squander their rights by becoming too attached to the fact that they can do what they want. Giving them more rights of citizenship won't resolve the problem, at least not in my opinion... Remaking the world could rectify that...

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Nah. As long as there are nations, there will be war. And I am guessing there will always be nations.
The very first war was waged with the creation of the nation/state.

B-by definition of course.

Your basing everything on problems in your own country, and are trying to solve those problems by 'remaking' the world.
So what if people don't want to vote? they've been given the option not to, why shouldn't they use that option? EDIT: in response to Ashestoahses.