:Utopia:

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
I think that there would be less of a controversy surrounding Abortion If the reasons you listed above (reasons we have no control over) were the only reasons to decide on a abortion. Meaning in the "utopia"(where things are realistically ALMOST perfect) there would be A LOT less people against it. what say you?

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
You talking to me? If so..
I know it is my opinion hence the "I think". Good job........ and I was talking about Abortion specifically, not Euthanasia.

brush your hair. my point messed it up as it flew over your head.

Originally posted by Schecter
brush your hair. my point messed it up as it flew over your head.

Then explain, seemed like totally pointless ramble that had nothing to do with what I said.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Actually I agree, it would probably be less controversial...but in a perfect world there wouldn't be Christians...so it doesn't matter really

Well there would be practically no Christians. I've met SOME Christians that were decent people, not judmental, loving, caring and understanding. Actually in regards to abortion, I've met some christians who were against abortions as a way of birth control but understood how a abortion could be justified under cases of rape, birth defects, possible death of a mother and so forth. Also remeber that christians are not the only one who are "pro-life", for example Muslims, Jews, and even some Buddhist and hare krishnas are for life. Unless you would wipe all them out too, I think people here already mentioned that.

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Could a perfect and grand world ever exist? One containing no violence, man-slaughter, indecency, or otherwise imperfections. How could a golden and beautiful Utopian society ever exist? What measures would have to be reached? Would the outcome be attained through Supernatural means?

This is not a thread to spout endless Chrisitian theories on Heaven being this sight worthy, flawless world...

There is no such thing as a Utopian world, because what is a perfect and grand world to me, is not necessarily a perfect and grand world to you.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is no such thing as a Utopian world, because what is a perfect and grand world to me, is not necessarily a perfect and grand world to you.

But tell me is my idea of Utopia a grotesque world to you? Could no one agree on it?

What kind of a poll is that? All it says is "Yes" and "I don't give a shit"

Actually it has "no" right under "yes"... -sigh- The reading abilities of the world appall me...

Their must be some way for the entire world to come to an understanding? Peace? Maybe I should create a World Peace board instead?

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
But tell me is my idea of Utopia a grotesque world to you? Could no one agree on it?

Was the Nazi idea of the thousand year reign, a utopian world?

No one could ever agree on what a utopian world is.

The idea of Utopia is to provide humans with the basic means of survival in a social way. That means:

Food
Shelter
Clothes
Sex

That means you work for free and get things for free. Also there is basically no time for entertainment. I'll be damn if I have to share my favorite jacket or let others use my Nintendo DS. Much less even let someone drive my car. It's my stuff get your stinkin paws off them.

So if you want Utopia be ready to give away everything you have work so hard for free. Screw this system. Capitalist pig till the day I die. Bah!

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
The idea of Utopia is to provide humans with the basic means of survival in a social way. That means:

Food
Shelter
Clothes
Sex

That means you work for free and get things for free. Also there is basically no time for entertainment. I'll be damn if I have to share my favorite jacket or let others use my Nintendo DS. Much less even let someone drive my car. It's my stuff get your stinkin paws off them.

So if you want Utopia be ready to give away everything you have work so hard for free. Screw this system. Capitalist pig till the day I die. Bah!

I once saw a TV documentary about workers in the Soviet Union. One of the workers made a statement that stuck in my head, “we pretend to work, and they (the government) pretend to pay us”.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I once saw a TV documentary about workers in the Soviet Union. One of the workers made a statement that stuck in my head, “we pretend to work, and they (the government) pretend to pay us”.

So for Bush it's more like "I pretend to work, and they (the people) pretend to care"...

Or not?...

What's something that everyone here could agree on?

That utopia is absolutely impossible

I doubt it. Simply because there are too many differences in the world. And people have different views of what's their ultimate utopia. That doesn't necessary mean there's no hope, I just very much doubt it.

Regards, Yvonne

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Then explain, seemed like totally pointless ramble that had nothing to do with what I said.

Well there would be practically no Christians. I've met SOME Christians that were decent people, not judmental, loving, caring and understanding. Actually in regards to abortion, I've met some christians who were against abortions as a way of birth control but understood how a abortion could be justified under cases of rape, birth defects, possible death of a mother and so forth. Also remeber that christians are not the only one who are "pro-life", for example Muslims, Jews, and even some Buddhist and hare krishnas are for life. Unless you would wipe all them out too, I think people here already mentioned that.

I wouldn't wipe anyone out, I just think my ideal utopia would have no Religions...

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
But tell me is my idea of Utopia a grotesque world to you? Could no one agree on it?

Actually it has "no" right under "yes"... -sigh- The reading abilities of the world appall me...

That is kinda funny in that sad ironic way...cause....if you could read...you would see....that there is no "no".

"I'm not sure" is not equal to "no"

Originally posted by Bardock42 That is kinda funny in that sad ironic way...cause....if you could read...you would see....that there is no "no".

"I'm not sure" is not equal to "no"

I don't remember writing that post O_O!
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Who the ****'s been on my comp!?!

Bump

Cause I'm retarded...

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Could a perfect and grand world ever exist? One containing no violence, man-slaughter, indecency, or otherwise imperfections. How could a golden and beautiful Utopian society ever exist? What measures would have to be reached? Would the outcome be attained through Supernatural means?

This is not a thread to spout endless Chrisitian theories on Heaven being this sight worthy, flawless world...

you'd probably have to kill alot of people who disagree or disobey the rules of the utopia

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
you'd probably have to kill alot of people who disagree or disobey the rules of the utopia

Mmhmm

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
you'd probably have to kill alot of people who disagree or disobey the rules of the utopia

Kinda like what Hitler wanted to do.