Originally posted by celestialdemon
Where is that interview at? You have a link to it?
from andy schmidt:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2906867&postcount=80
Originally posted by celestialdemon
Where is that interview at? You have a link to it?
from andy schmidt:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2906867&postcount=80
Originally posted by leonidas
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7857996
Thanks so much. I get tired of people telling me I dont' know what I"m talking about.
Originally posted by quanchi112
mr matser i cant post scans. can u pst that scan of thanos as he talks to adam warlock when he is referring to the heart here where all can see. i hope u have the issue. just that and that alone. if u posted it ealrier i must have missed it. post it again by itself for all to see. it will be funny to se what he says then.
That took place on this page:
Any scan you wanna repost, just quote the post it's in and copy and paste which ever one you choose, you can only post upto 10 scans at once btw.
You can also copy and paste them on a notepad if you have Windows, or on a Tex Edit pad on a Mac, therefore you can collect them and use them any time you wish during a debate.
You'l have your claim with the proof. 🙂
brevoort later hedges a little, but never declares it canon. rather he says it is a murky issue, or something.
marvel screwed up, but the head honchos do not consider THE END canonical. i was once on your side of the fence and argued it WAS canon. i have reneged on that opinion in light of the above. to do otherwise makes little sense, imo, but to each his/her own. 🙂
Originally posted by leonidasjust becuz some editor says he doesnt think so and that it was a similar event. dude it was the end it was describbd as it. its laughable that that ediotr would say thta. if he really posted that. its like in his opinion it wasnt but i dont know it was a similar event but we dont know exactly what event. no it was refenced on panel. it happened.
brevoort later hedges a little, but never declares it canon. rather he says it is a murky issue, or something.marvel screwed up, but the head honchos do not consider THE END canonical. i was once on your side of the fence and argued it WAS canon. i have reneged on that opinion in light of the above. to do otherwise makes little sense, imo, but to each his/her own. 🙂
The heck is Andy doing hanging out at cbr forums?
I remember Grant Morrison became a member at kmc once. 😂
Anywho, either that isn't him, or he was on drugs when answering the question.
Far too many referrences to the End events across different Titles, Bios and an Officially Marvel sponsored Site, plus Marvel.com itself as Canon.
In the All-New OHotMU A-Z Bibliography at Marvel.com
Akhenaten's bio refers to the events of the End,
and even the issue Title and # is displayed:
http://www.marvel.com/universe/OHOTMU:Bibliography-AZ1
And Eternity's
http://www.marvel.com/universe/OHOTMU:Bibliography-AZ4
And LT's
http://www.marvel.com/universe/OHOTMU:Bibliography-AZ6
These appearance Bios can't be edited btw by outside sources.
I have the Handbook bio scans too if yall interested.
Originally posted by leonidas
from andy schmidt:http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=2906867&postcount=80
That is extremely odd considering Marvel's own official website shows The End as being canon.
Originally posted by celestialdemon
That is extremely odd considering Marvel's own official website shows The End as being canon.
It's a genius marketing scheme on CBR's part if you ask me. 😏
I'll take Marvel's word any day over this "name on a screen."
Mainly cause his info is contradicted by, well ... Marvel. 🙂
http://www.thexaxis.com/minis/xmenendv26.htm
http://www.bureau42.com/view/1175
meh. you asked for links, you got them. whether you believe the statements are true or not are of uttermost irrelevence to me. there was a comment from brevoort in an official interview with newsrama -- which is where the original report of non-canon came from that raised all the stir in the first place -- but the link is now defunct. 😬
if you choose to believe the editors are . . . 'fakes' 😕 in the above links, well, that's naturally your perogative. the official bio of alternate earths says the events of the end happened on earth 4321. the fact alone that the story was officially set in a place OTHER than 616 earth makes it a what if type story and out of continuity.
like i said -- believe what you like. people ask me, i tell them it's out of continuity.
Originally posted by leonidas
http://www.thexaxis.com/minis/xmenendv26.htmhttp://www.bureau42.com/view/1175
meh. you asked for links, you got them. whether you believe the statements are true or not are of uttermost irrelevence to me. there was a comment from brevoort in an official interview with newsrama -- which is where the original report of non-canon came from that raised all the stir in the first place -- but the link is now defunct. 😬
if you choose to believe the editors are . . . 'fakes' 😕 in the above links, well, that's naturally your perogative. the official bio of alternate earths says the events of the end happened on earth 4321. the fact alone that the story was officially set in a place OTHER than 616 earth makes it a what if type story and out of continuity.
like i said -- believe what you like. people ask me, i tell them it's out of continuity.
Very strange. Marvel seems confused on what they want The End to be. Editors say one thing in interviews...comics, website, and bios say otherwise. Who to believe?
starwars
Originally posted by celestialdemon
Very strange. Marvel seems confused on what they want The End to be. Editors say one thing in interviews...comics, website, and bios say otherwise. Who to believe?
starwars
marvel screwed themselves. it's a mess of an issue. it's ridiculous EITHER way you look at it. if it IS canon there are many problems i have with the story itself. if it's not, those problems go away, but we have a continuity issue. too many cooks in the kitchen. 😬
like i said, i'll take the head honcho's word for it personally (maybe because i think it was one of the worst series ever written and would be GLAD to see it moved out of continuity . . .)
either way, believe what you will. people always do. 😉
The End
Sometime later Thanos finds and uses the artifact the Heart of the Universe to stop an alien pharaoh called Akhenaten who conquers Earth. The artifact makes Thanos a part of everything, and able to absorb the entire universe - even the cosmic entities Eternity, Infinity and the Living Tribunal. After literally ending the universe, Adam Warlock (who exists outside the space-time continuum) explains to Thanos that the constant resurrection of beings has caused an impurity in the old universe that only he can fix. Thanos then restarts the universe and sacrifices himself to fix the flaw.[25]
It is also revealed that this apparently happens in an alternate reality, although there is no conclusive proof as to whether these events can be considered canon.[26]
Originally posted by starking
The End
Sometime later Thanos finds and uses the artifact the Heart of the Universe to stop an alien pharaoh called Akhenaten who conquers Earth. The artifact makes Thanos a part of everything, and able to absorb the entire universe - even the cosmic entities Eternity, Infinity and the Living Tribunal. After literally ending the universe, Adam Warlock (who exists outside the space-time continuum) explains to Thanos that the constant resurrection of beings has caused an impurity in the old universe that only he can fix. Thanos then restarts the universe and sacrifices himself to fix the flaw.[25]It is also revealed that this apparently happens in an alternate reality, although there is no conclusive proof as to whether these events can be considered canon.[26]
That's from Wikipedia. Now, compare that to what's listed on Marvel's official website of the 616 universe.
Originally posted by celestialdemonHey I'm not exactly sure about this situation myself, I just wanted to put that up.
That's from Wikipedia. Now, compare that to what's listed on Marvel's official website of the 616 universe.