Thanos with heart of universe vs darkseid with ALE

Originally posted by starlock
BTW not that it matters,but i like your debating skills,at least your polite and friendly 🙂

Thanks. I try to keep it civilized unless I'm debating with someone totally illogical like 2damn.

Originally posted by starlock
Like i said if it was TOAA manipulating thanos..why would he stop him? see it even makes the HOTU even less powerfull..think about it.you want thanos to accomplish somthing..do you have your minions stop him..no,you make it seem like he did it on his own,that is ..why would TOAA put thanos on a mission and stop him? if it was even TOAA

My thing is, if it wasn't TOAA who was influencing Thanos, why didn't he have the LT stop him? And if it was TOAA, then he would make sure the HOTI had at least enough power to stop his 2nd in command and all the other abstracts combined.

So, if it's not TOAA's power, then it's at least more powerful than anything else we've seen in Marvel (with the possible exception of the Beyonder, but that's a different debate_.

Originally posted by starlock
according to the one you love to quote Mr Master

the problem here is Mr Master saying its conclusive proof...

no -conclusive proof would be on panel refering to the HOTU as TOAA's power period.

Geez, can you make a post without my name in it.

On the other hand,

Actually there's a plethora of PROOF.

I'll be posting it all here, today.

I thought the obvious scans were enough,

I should've known. 😏

Then you can say,

"the problem here is Mr Master is conclusively RIGHT ... and I hate that"

Originally posted by Mr Master
Geez, can you make a post without my name in it.

On the other hand,

Actually there's a plethora of PROOF.

I'll be posting it all here, today.

I thought the obvious scans were enough,

I should've known. 😏

Then you can say,

"the problem here is Mr Master is conclusively RIGHT ... and I hate that"

The only thing you are going to do is speculate. Unless the panel says it's the Lt's bosses total power, or it's the power of the one above all, you can post until you are blue in the face and it will still just be your own speculation.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Just becuz The LT is 2nd in Marvel doesn't mean there are other beings who aren't more powerful than him but less powerful than God. I.E. Michael, Lucifer, Man of Miracles, Elaine, the Source are all more powerful than the LT but less than the God's of marvel or DC.

Since when are any of those character from Marvel?

I don't give a shit if there arew a 100 characters that equal the Presence outside of Marvel.

IN MARVEL, the Living Tribunal is the Second most powerful entity in MARVEL beneath TOAA.

ON PANEL and in the BIOS.

So please with your pathetic attempt at demeaning the LT.

You're inspired right now cause you think that other cat posted something of significance, yall really thought that was all my proof? 😂

I will shut your bull shit down, as I have alwasy done.

With over TEN scans that conclusively depicts THOTI

as the Power of the Supremem Being, the Almighty.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The only thing you are going to do is speculate. Unless the panel says it's the Lt's bosses total power, or it's the power of the one above all, you can post until you are blue in the face and it will still just be your own speculation.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You missed the point. Marvel has always shown that it likes powerful artifacts. While DC shows that it likes powerful beings. So the Heart just seemed to be another artifact that is discovered. Wasn't it called the heart of the infinite and part of another being at first? how is this heart all of a sudden the totality of God's power? God's power comes in the form of will, and omnicience. Of Which Thanos didn't have.

No, God's power doesn't come from all those. You've made it clear time and again that Michael has God's power but doesn't have his will.

Yes, Marvel likes its artifacts. Is HOTI the power of TOAA? In my opinion, yes, but it is speculation. However, fact shows that it is far more powerful than anything in Marvel combined. No other artifact has shown that before.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
No, God's power doesn't come from all those. You've made it clear time and again that Michael has God's power but doesn't have his will.

Yes, Marvel likes its artifacts. Is HOTI the power of TOAA? In my opinion, yes, but it is speculation. However, fact shows that it is far more powerful than anything in Marvel combined. No other artifact has shown that before.

Yes, but does that make it the power of God? Not Really. It only fixed something that was broken. It didn't even do what the beyonder did and create something new. From On panel evidence, it is not the power of God. The only thing that we know, is that it's more powerful than the LT. But so is the Source. Does that make the source the total power of God?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You missed the point. Marvel has always shown that it likes powerful artifacts. While DC shows that it likes powerful beings. So the Heart just seemed to be another artifact that is discovered.

This is utter bull shit

Marvel has characters that can influence and destroy the Omniverse.

HOM Wanda
Merlyn
Havok
Edifice Rex
A Full Potential Cosmic Cube ... so the BeyonderS aswell
the LT
Jaspers 616

Off the top of my head.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Wasn't it called the heart of the infinite and part of another being at first? how is this heart all of a sudden the totality of God's power?

It was TOAA' or the Supreme Being's Power.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
God's power comes in the form of will, and omnicience. Of Which Thanos didn't have.

Yet Thanos had Omniversal Omniscience,

so what fallacy are you conjuring up this time.

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is utter bull shit

Marvel has characters that can influence and destroy the Omniverse.

HOM Wanda
Merlyn
Havok
Edifice Rex
A Full Potential Cosmic Cube ... so the BeyonderS aswell
the LT
Jaspers 616

Off the top of my head.

It was TOAA' or the Supreme Being's Power.

Yet Thanos had Omniversal Omniscience,

so what fallacy are you conjuring up this time.

Please with the crap. Thanos didnt' even know he was being used. So much for him being omniscience.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yes, but does that make it the power of God? Not Really.

It only fixed something that was broken.

It didn't even do what the beyonder did and create something new.

More bull shit (I call how I see it)

Thanos ERASED the Multiverse,

then Thanos Created a NEW Multiverse, from scratch/nothingness.

Do you always debate without ever reading a Comic? hm

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
From On panel evidence, it is not the power of God.

"On panel evidence?"

What the F would you know about "on panel evidence"

You got some nerve.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The only thing that we know, is that it's more powerful than the LT.

The only thing anyone who actually READ the Arc knows,

is that it's the power of TOAA (or the Supreme Being or HE) as it's refered to plenty of times.

I'll be posting them all, to stomp out the bull shit from ignorant debaters.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But so is the Source. Does that make the source the total power of God?

I don't care about the Source, or how DC runs their cosmology.

Originally posted by Mr Master
More bull shit (I call how I see it)

Thanos ERASED the Multiverse,

then Thanos Created a NEW Multiverse, from scrath/nothingness.

Do you always debate without ever reading a Comic? hm

"On panel evidence?"

What the F would you know about "on panel evidence"

You got some nerve.

The only thing anyone who actually READ the Arc knows,

is that it's the power of TOAA (or the Supreme Being or HE) as it's refered to plenty of times.

I'll be posting them all, to stomp out the bull shit from ignorant debaters.

I don't care about the Source, or how DC runs their cosmology.

You are the biggest lame of all. You get all upset becuz someone doesn't agree with you. I will never agree with your retarded theories. If the panel doesn't say specifically that it's God's TOTAL power, then i'm not buying it. You can speculate and infer all you want by taking bio's and linking things together to come up with your theory. Now get lost chump.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are the biggest lame of all. You get all upset becuz someone doesn't agree with you.

I have never cared whether or not you agree with me, Nvr.

You're full of shit concerning Marvel, that's what pisses me off.

You state "on panel" this and that, when you've never read the relevant issues.

You didn't even know Thanos Created a NEW Reality from scratch, yet you had the nerve to claim you knew otherswise because of something "on panel" you supposedly saw.

Which is untrue, last pages of The End#6, anyone is invited to go read.

Thanos creates Reality from nothingness.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I will never agree with your retarded theories.

It's not like your agreement will strengthen my claim,

you have a scorned rep homie.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If the panel doesn't say specifically that it's God's TOTAL power, then i'm not buying it. You can speculate and infer all you want by taking bio's and linking things together to come up with your theory.

We'll see,

within a hour, we'll see.

You'l be swallowing your words.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now get lost chump.

Read Comics, then debate.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
This is why I don't respond much to Mr. Master and his lackeys. His crazy logic is all over the place and he speculates much and then dumb asses except it as fact. And if you even utter a word against it, you are called a liar and such. I have no time for illogical people. So I just let it ride.

🙂 Good attitude

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yes, but does that make it the power of God? Not Really. It only fixed something that was broken. It didn't even do what the beyonder did and create something new. From On panel evidence, it is not the power of God. The only thing that we know, is that it's more powerful than the LT. But so is the Source. Does that make the source the total power of God?

No, because DC has a fan club of beings who are more powerful than the Source. In Marvel, NO ONE is more powerful than the LT except TOAA and the HOTI.

It's the same if Darkseid could easily defeat Michael, Lucifer, Elaine, Spectre, and everyone else in DC with the ALE, but the ALE is just an artifact of unknown power.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
🙂 Good attitude

It's the best to have when you even try to swim against the tide of rediculousness that MM and his lackey's spew. Taking Speculation as fact is just insane. Linking together feats and bios to come up with conclusions is just crazy.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I have never cared whether or not you agree with me, Nvr.

You're full of shit concerning Marvel, that's what pisses me off.

You state "on panel" this and that, when you've never read the relevant issues.

You didn't even know Thanos Created a NEW Reality from scratch, yet you had the nerve to claim you knew otherswise because of something "on panel" you supposedly saw.

Which is untrue, last pages of The End#6, anyone is invited to go read.

Thanos creates Reality from nothingness.

It's not like your agreement will strengthen my claim,

you have a scorned rep homie.

We'll see,

within a hour, we'll see.

You'l be swallowing your words.

Read Comics, then debate.

Try to use the comics and NO bios and make your theory work pal. I dont' care if I have a scorned rep. I have since made everyone who gave me that rep look foolish. And Thanos didn't create a new anything. he recreated what was already there. he didnt' imagine anything. He just redid what God had already done. And did he erase the omniverse? NOPE. I remember the universe being used many many times in that book. Now post away.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are the biggest lame of all. You get all upset becuz someone doesn't agree with you. I will never agree with your retarded theories. If the panel doesn't say specifically that it's God's TOTAL power, then i'm not buying it. You can speculate and infer all you want by taking bio's and linking things together to come up with your theory. Now get lost chump.

Originally posted by quanchi112
nevr u neevr responded to my post. and u have the gall to call his theories retarded try looking in the mirror dc boy. i think people are losing what little respect they had for uu noe for sure. u dont answer peoples questions becuz ur theories and opinions dont have anything backing them up. its ur opinion and u cannot even clearly state an argument. i have repeatedly asked u when micheal or those list of other beings has taken dcs powerhiouses down all at once with ease as thanos has done. u know why becuz it hasnt happened. u assume they are more powerful than anyone over at marvel but if they cant back it up with on panel stuff at dc how is anyone going to buy what ur selling. other than ur darkseid brigade u have no one in ur corner half the time. and ur comebacks include things like get lost chump mainly ignoring peoples opinions. u say u come here to argue but when someone does u call thier theories reatrded becuz they dont agree with urs. at least he breaks it down and explains himself while u do nothing of the sort. just do us a favor dont respond becuz it wont have anything to do with comics and will prolly be another get outta my face reply.

You spew utter rediculousness. Lucifer easily pwns the energy with in micheal. Mike is the literal power of God. The source is above the Spectre. The Godwave, which is only a small part of the source's power, was able to pwn all of heaven. now get lost.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's the best to have when you even try to swim against the tide of rediculousness that MM and his lackey's spew. Taking Speculation as fact is just insane.

I can't wait to see your response within the hour, when I post the undoubtable PROOF.

you clueless thing.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Linking together feats and bios to come up with conclusions is just crazy.

This is by far the dumbest shit I have read.

If On Panel illustrations and Bio statements together can't be evidence of what took place,

what can?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Try to use the comics and NO bios and make your theory work pal.

Coming from the ignorant welch, that claimed "on panel Thanos didn't create anything"

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' care if I have a scorned rep. I have since made everyone who gave me that rep look foolish.

😆

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And Thanos didn't create a new anything. he recreated what was already there. he didnt' imagine anything. He just redid what God had already done.

There was nothing there,

Reality had been absorbed/erased.

Thanos had to create a New Reality from nothingness.

The purpose of creating a New Reality was to heal the Cosmos.

This was only possible by completely erasing the Old, and creating a New one.

So yes, it was definitely "something NEW"

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And did he erase the omniverse? NOPE.

No one said he did.